[JackinMelbourne]

(01-09-2018 09:35 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Issue with being in the spotlight is the cons of never truly being FREE to just live...Some of these peeps have bodyguards or fans running up to them.

This is a serious issue (unless you're an attention whore kind of person).

You want to go and catch a cool band/artist/event/etc without having to deal with heaps of people you don't know who know you? Good fucking luck.

[Dragan]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/...er-sanctum

Hopefully this article gives you an idea of these Sillicon Valley types, who apparently host big sex drug orgies every month. It appears the answer is a big yes.

[questor70]

From the article:

Quote:

I believe there is a critical story to tell about how the women who participate in these events are often marginalized, even if they attend of their own volition.

It's this kind of shit that's why I'm red-pill on my way to black-pill.

I am so sick and tired of women trying to use SJW outrage simply to escape personal responsibility.

If it's of their own volition they should STFU.

Quote:

...it just perpetuates a culture that keeps women down.

Then women keep themselves down by continuing to go to these parties. They go because they are attracted to money/status like moths to a flame.

What's the problem here?

The problem is women at some deep biological level hate it when betas use money as leverage to get poon. Feels like a crime against nature, but they can't frame it that way, hence "misogyny". The fact of the matter is, it wouldn't happen if women weren't willing to play along.

Also, it wouldn't take much googling to find some Village Voice article celebrating swinger parties as a sign of sexual liberation. It's the fact that it's Revenge of the Nerds that turns women's stomachs.

[pancakemouse]

(01-09-2018 10:16 PM)Vigilius Wrote:  

He bangs uncountable amount of hot broads, especially young, very attractive russian tennis player girls left and right. He is basically a geek, who got really rich, and used that money to befriend the sexy and the famous; and then use them to fuck tons of hot bitches and never get married. That is Paul Allen, the extremely nerdy, aspergic Co-Founder of Microsoft.

[citation needed]

(01-09-2018 11:07 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/...er-sanctum

Hopefully this article gives you an idea of these Sillicon Valley types, who apparently host big sex drug orgies every month. It appears the answer is a big yes.

It's SF, so likely these women are 6s-7s. Good for them, though, I guess.

[BossOfBosses]

(01-10-2018 10:08 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 11:07 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/...er-sanctum

Hopefully this article gives you an idea of these Sillicon Valley types, who apparently host big sex drug orgies every month. It appears the answer is a big yes.

It's SF, so likely these women are 6s-7s. Good for them, though, I guess.

I'd be willing to put money on that. San Francisco has shitty quality women. Not just in looks but in everything from attitude to clothes.

I'd take LA. Only problem is LA has much more high-end competition (actors, atheletes, musicians etc).

[Distant Light]

(01-09-2018 10:16 PM)Vigilius Wrote:  

And you are asking if Elon Musk gets pussy?!?!? He can at a drop of a hat if he wants to.

Are you saying this just to say it? This is why I'm skeptical...

Neil Strauss Writes About Elon Musk

Quote:

Musk shakes his head and grimaces: "If I'm not in love, if I'm not with a long-term companion, I cannot be happy."

You can't just say "they have the potential" as any average dude has the POTENTIAL to do things, doesn't mean it's probable.

Also because I have personally seen sports players, celebs, etc "out and about" and majority aren't the ones slaying.

Even the silicon valley writing is hyperbole...

Go read tiger woods scandal and that whole trend/dynamic highly sensationalized yet also hyperbole...

I say hyperbole because the % of men in those realms is more of a subset and NOT common.

I'd go as far as saying there are probably way more silicon valley dudes living it up than any celebs in spotlight. Reminds me of the whole saudi stereotype, there are thousands of so called "princes" BUT it's only a handful who indulge in debauchery.

Frankly, MOST aren't good models to look at in social/sexual realm. The actual "process" is more of a cultural thing in those realms than any form of "next level" shit.

Want a PERSONAL EXAMPLE...

Way back, I took black model chick and her cousin to hip hop night on a weekday so her cousin can experience "baller life" (hahaha) as soon as I walk in i hear a guy say to his friend...

Ima Ball Guy: How many bottles we popped?
His Friend: 30
Ima Ball Guy: Thatssss it!?!? Come on!!

I walk in, find a friend of mine. Look around it looks like a hip hop music video...

All dudes at EVERY TABLE. I actually count to see what tables have girls. Only the table I'm at and the table next to us. I even ask my friend "Yo is it like this every week? Were the only table with girls". He looks around in sort of shock that YEA WE ARE.

No biggie, I'm just letting my female friend and her cousin enjoy the atmosphere lots of bottles...BUT...Then model chick disappears with her cousin. I later learnt...

Infamous snapchat (or is it IG?) by name of DJ...His manager invites black model to roll with him to the strip club. They went as clearly our purpose was for her cousin to see what it's like...I was connected but dislike hip hop so I just wanted them to enjoy themselves. They met a bunch of well known rappers at the strip club.

I've been to bday parties for giants players...superbowl celebration when giants won in 2012...Seen well known bball player pull a decent curvy german chick. (To be fair she was one of the better looking girls that night)

Do you know who probably slays the most amongst that circle? DJ Whookid...Seen dude every week, he "gets it" in terms of how things go.

The glorification of money & fame within the community is imo waste of time...
- Unaware of downsides of FAME, you'll never have peace unless you go incognito and slip through the backdoor and have others bring girls to you
- Money...Breeds incentive to LEAD with it rather than using it to enhance the experience...This is why girls are getting flown around all over to these different places (even some of my personal friends have done it)

I always show this video to give reference, I'm at 00:38

The real people you want to learn from to a degree are the "unknowns" behind the scenes. Those who are there due to social skills and those who are social yet have the wealth.

My personal experiences are limited as I actively avoided celeb-oriented stuff. The people who hangout with celebs consistently, I rarely hungout with after seeing 1 night where everyone stopped partying to spectate all the artists in the song "yeah".

Yea, I can say I got to see live and personal performance BUT I came to party not enjoy a live concert. (I did hear alicia keys sing and was in utter shock at the amazing vocals, didn't even know it was her until a girl at the table told me and then I remembered the song)

Contrast...I've seen tons of sports players literally "in the trenches" TRYING to get play, getting blown out all night.

IMO the best foundation is an unknown dude who has money to have great logistics. Anything more is literally for sake of obnoxious enhancements. I always say, you only have 1 cock so unless your gonna stick it in each chick 1 by 1 down a line, there is only so much you can physically do in a day...

Not including amount of time will be spent banging chicks till you turn blue...

I like to think of it as the difference between a bunch of naked chicks in a hostel and abunch of naked chicks naked on a king sized bed in a high rise. Same shit different atmosphere.

The girls part is the EASY part, it's accumulating the money to throw around.

You can search mayalsian fraud scanadal...allegedly they funded the film wolf of wall street and they're probably the reason I've tried cristal in my lifetime. (I think it's overrated...dom is legit though)

Many of these people behind the scenes are doing high level shit that benefits their circles, generally it's the unknowns within their circles who are the best examples to gain a few wisdom.

It's so easy to build a perception through media, you gotta be boots on the ground observant to see the objectivity within the illusions. The whole scene is one great illusion to make money, it's why all these groups I've been around for years have made multi million dollar income. (Even promoter type "hosts" making 100k-400k a year)

P.S...I looked up that one dude party, it seems more "visible" than the INVISIBLE. The true parties aren't known. What do I mean? One night diddy took our table at a club that you wouldn't expect him to be at. One of the connectors I used to hang with on his vines back then was him at what looked like a hamptons house with kayne west on the mic. Wolf of wall street actor goes to after parties, one of my female friends even woke up at his apartment. (She didn't give any details other than telling me about her night)

P.S.S...Money should be gained for yourself and to enhance your life NOT to attract women.

[monster]

It's gotta be tough when you're that famous and wealthy...you naturally think that any girl is with you just for your money and it's hard to find something real.

[ThrustMaster]

Having personally met the dude and being peripherally in dude's circle through a family connection I can tell you the man does not lack for the attention of super high value females, whether or not he is with his wife at his side. The situations in which i was in his general vecinity were coupled situations, and even so the coupled women (all fairly high value trophy types) lavished attention upon him.

Dude is a Captain of Industry, Atlas Shrugged style. He is intelligent, well dressed, spoken, charismatic and funny.

He deserves the attention he gets from women. Props to Elon.

[pancakemouse]

(01-10-2018 08:52 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 10:16 PM)Vigilius Wrote:  

And you are asking if Elon Musk gets pussy?!?!? He can at a drop of a hat if he wants to.

Are you saying this just to say it? This is why I'm skeptical...

Neil Strauss Writes About Elon Musk

Quote:

Musk shakes his head and grimaces: "If I'm not in love, if I'm not with a long-term companion, I cannot be happy."

You can't just say "they have the potential" as any average dude has the POTENTIAL to do things, doesn't mean it's probable.

Also because I have personally seen sports players, celebs, etc "out and about" and majority aren't the ones slaying.

Even the silicon valley writing is hyperbole...

...

Great post. I would trust Distant Light over anyone on this issue.

Status creates attraction, but it takes Game to seal the deal. A lot of these celebs never learn Game.

[Vigilius]

(01-10-2018 09:31 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

What's the problem here?

The problem is women have some deep biological level hate it when betas use money as leverage to get poon. Feels like a crime against nature, but they can't frame it that way, hence "misogyny"....

I dont see it this way. I don't think women hates it when betas use money as leverage. I think the hypergamy doesn't care what you use as leverage.

Many things generate the tingles: Money, status, power, good looks, raw physical strength, charisma through the roof, etcetera. Hypergamy doesn't care.

I remember this interview that Jamie Fox did for The Foxxhole Radio after the Bill Cosby scandal broke. Jamie Fox talked about what he called "The Mist". He mentioned that when he was up and coming, he went to a party by P-Diddy and long story short, some of the girls started a false sexual accusation against him because they hate the way his toes look while he was making out with one of their friend. It was a funny story. P-Diddy accused the girls of starting drama and threw them out of his party; instantly, the girls grew repentant -- That is what saved Jamie Fox from being charged with sexual battery or assault. Years later after Jamie Fox is now famous, he ran into those girls again and they just couldn't keep their hands off him. Jamie Fox mentioned he still have the same set of toes; so what changed? Jamie called it the Mist. That women perception of you, emotionally fluctuates based on whatever value you possess almost regardless of how you obtained those values.

Look at Jamie Fox. Without the fame and money, etc. He is just another black guy that these parade of beautiful women won't touch. (If you read the RVF archives like I do; you will come across Veloce account of Jamie Fox experience at one of Veloce's restaurant.). But he had "the Mist" now, so I guess he is hot.

Same for Justin Beiber- without his music- is a very generic looking standard short white boy. But all those girls are seriously wetting their panties because of his "Mist". Same with the Beatles.

Just like fame, power, status, etcetera. Money is a Mist. Yes, bitches will wet their panties because of money. That is why I dont believe "women must hate having to sleep with betas because of money" argument.

With The Mist, any beta tendencies will be hamsterize away as "cuteness", as endearing, and as quirkiness. It is after the Mist dissipates that revulsion kicks back in again.

As Mark Cuban stated "Money makes you very handsome".

A good examples are the gold-digger pranks or "I am famous" pranks on youtube. Yes, some of them are fake, but some are genuine. Again, hypergamy doesn't care.

There was this Go Daddy advertisement featuring Bar Rafeali and this fat, pinkish guy Jesse Heiman.

What happened?

Women started trying to makeout with the guy just because Bar Rafeali pre-select this guy in an advertisement. I am sure he got a couple of lays from it.

In fact, one pretty news anchor lady(Maria Menounos) cuckhold her husband live on TV by intentionally making out with Jesse Heiman.

Here is Maria Menounos humping him full frontal and kissing Jesse Heiman.

If they hate it soo badly, why are these hot chicks making out with him? Maria Menounos is married with a big rock on her finger, for pete's sake. Here in broad daylight in front of millions and her husband and friends; cucking him openly with a fat fuck. Why? Because the fatfuck was preselected by Bar Rafaeli. Hypergamy doesnt care.

She tingles to experience Jesse Heiman due to a fake preselection by Bar Rafeali. Nobody put a gun to this news anchor head to go and make out with Jesse Heiman. She did it purposefully. Why?

The answer is simple: The Mist.

The Mist created from the Go Daddy advertisement of Bar Rafeali kissing Jesse Heiman turns him into something that other women wants to kiss.

Money also creates the Mist.

Here is another example:

Here is Jasmin Dustin kissing Jesse Heiman.

The Mist alters the beta into the alpha they want to get intimate with, even if temporarily. Men dont function like this. A fat fuck is still a fat fuck even if that fat fuck gets fucked by Brad Pitt in his prime. I don't care, I am not touching that fat fuck. But women hamster dont function rationally.

Take a look at the case of Harvey Weinstein. Now these women are saying he is a repulsive fat ugly human being. But before this scandal broke, Harvey Weinstein has power, influence and he was preselected through the roof with plenty of hot chicks, he is a kingmaker. I guarantee you the female hamsters of all those women was wetting their panties for him. Take a look at this example: Observe the Lip smacking, the look of greed/lust and excitement in her eyes; the way she gripped Oprah hands from excitement. She is besides herself just talking to Harvey Weinstein. Those panties were soaked.


Now of course to her, Harvey Weinstein is a evil, fat, ugly predator that Oprah pawned her off to.

Hypergamy doesnt care.

[Vigilius]

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[Distant Light]

@vig The mist is a good analogy...

The issue seems to be a black n white absolute not applying it to real world variables...

What does it say about a consciousness who didn't like you broke BUT because you have fame/money it's tolerable.

Perfect example...Ex & I was at a table...Wannabe baller hops on side table spitting all this money related stuff. Was so intense my gf entertained it for comedic purposes...

My gf ex of 4 years family was rich...She hooked up with guy who had a manhattan penthouse & hot tub...GF ran off with a guy for 10 days when she was younger.

I literally have NOTHING other than tall & decent style...I'm broke, ok looking living with parents...

I tried SO HARD to get my gf to stop loving me. In her mind I am the greatest guy she's ever met despite meeting 100s of men. Were talking DJs, wealthy, locally famous, etc.

Doesn't add up right? Fluke? Nope...
- Chick I barely knew but run into alot STUNNING always well put together. One night I see her at a table with some good looking guy friends. Were talking top tier looks for a guy...I greet her she comes over and RANDOMLY says "I always feel so amazing when aroubd you"

- In prague...I was winging a friend trying to get him laid. I purposely self-sabotaged logistically so I wouldn't lead to being isolated indoors with my girl because I had my gf back home. My dumbass blackedout kissing her. My boy tried too hard & his girl was coming to me. I PURPOSELY had kept things non-sexual up to point where I did makeout. Do you know before they left this chick said I am the most amazing man she's ever met?

- Beautiful latina who is more euro than latin...She leaves her table declaring she has more fun with me. My boy insists that he likes this woman and wants me NOT to go for her. They end up dating, the guys at that table assumed he was the reason they lost that woman, not realizing it was me she ended up rolling with & I intro'd him

The thing that I learnt...

Anything external is beyond looks & fitness is 100% security for offspring. If you look at it in tribal times she will be secured to raise off-spring due to the provider she enticed.

HOWEVER, it's the womans consciousness that subtly makes them think...
- My son will have similar presence like his father
- My daughter will have a framework of what an awesome man should be like

A woman will get impregnated by those fascinating consciousness & let the provider raise the off spring as women will go for the highest quality off spring. A man can be both the "seed giver" and "provider". If he fits both roles the woman on a primal level has no reason to cheat. If her consciousness is high she would be aware that she can grow dynanically by exploring other men BUT wouldn't risk it if it means collapse of her 1 man who fits both roles.

The issue is men & women in general lack so much depth that many times they can only see shallow surfaces...
- Men generally desregard so much the hotter a woman is
- Women are TRICKED by men putting an illusion of fame & money

You can't FAKE a fascinating consciousness just like you can't fake being fit. It takes long term efforts to grow a body or consciousness. Yet, look on youtube how easy it is to fake money/fame. Heck, brands are aligned to the illusion of wealth, why else do many brands get fake and go lengths to show authenticity of the product.

A shoe is a shoe at the end of the day. Fake or not it still looks similar. Lease a supercar, aint no one saying "show me the papers that you own it".

Flipside...Girls have millions of IG followers just for being hot. Far more in comparison to people who actually offer value to a persons life.

Guys see there friend with a hot chick thinking "dude you gotta lock that down and marry her, do you see her"

The obsession of fame, looks, money stems from an inadequacy to legitmately become a "force of nature" on a consciousness level because like fitness it requires actual growth and experience...

Most just want their dick sucked from a hot chick, roll over and sleep. You wanna know what's funny...

Those same guys can go spend a few 100 bucks to bangout attractive hookers and go on with their lives. Yet EGO of "I wanna get it myself, what man am I if I didn't get her myself"

Truth is guys using "the mist" didn't get her himself. He tricked her with external spectale just like women wear makeup going from average to amazing...

You only see the true beauty when the make up wears off revealing her naturall essence. Just like a woman sees the primal offspring of a man who attracted her based on external factors.

Men are about visuals...Women are about offspring & security...

Do you ever feel guilty for banging a hot chick even if she turns out bat shit crazy?

Yet, go talk to women to hear just how many regrets of BAD choices they made due to being tricked by looks, fame & money.

This dreadful dogma of guys seeking money, fame & looks just to get women is 100% because of inadequacy for their lack of presence.

This is why a guy like me has devoured many women who had boyfriends or married. I've NEVER forced any woman not even my ex to "stick with me" it's not in my character.

Yet so many women for the time I've been with them decide only to be with me. Yet I have NOTHING external, I live with my fucking parents...

One thing I do know for sure, a woman will grow on a consciousness level immensely...

I know I am nothing like anyone she's ever met as I've self-discovered myself & gained so much depth from personal experiences. Exploring & growth isn't a passive thing, I live for it. Everything else is merely a logical consequence of me growing.

This is why I can never be IMPRESSED by a person's whole. There are only a handful of guys who have a fascinating consciousness and boatloads of external factors. Reason being is most humans are lazy, if they can attract with the external they feel no need to grow as a consciousness.

Do you know what happens if I had my own place? If I had wealth and/or fame? At best...

Nothing, at worst a bunch of chicks trying to get me to impregnate them.

My presence gets women in general, sex will never be a problem. Money would put logistics in my favor as in no more banking on public sex or her place. Fame would shift me from "wait who is that?" To "OMG its him!!! Quick grab him before some other chick does"

My ex used to state people are always looking at me in the club which explains why I've been told cetrain things in the past...As a couple people ALWAYS looked at us or complimented us. My ex was an ice queen & had a unique look, we both stood out.

I underrate myself so much but the trsnsformational impact is ridiculous. I broke cultural norms.

This is why beyond marginal profitability these types of discussions SUCKS because from my perspective it's like "stop being a low quality being and problems will erode".

My gf stated she grew so much and it showed in terms of her outings solo. It was like her college life all over again, she was loved by many. That aspect of her will go on for the rest of her life without me which is beautiful.

I have wealthy community dudes. You wanna know there current life situation...
- GF from SA, possibility of getting played...Says cold approach is dead & it doesn't work
- GF from SA, had a 4some or 5some
- GF he met while out she is used to pro hockey players chasinf her...In his luxury building he had girls staying in model apartments within the complex hanging at his place to pregame

Guess which one was influenced by me?

Guess which ones still were spending money on bootcamps & residentials?

Guess who still have problems getting laid, which is why they used SA and snagged a GF?

If I'm ever wealthy, my money won't be directed to women as there is no point. At most, I'm buying her lingerie to enhance the experience of devouring her. I have a friend who has over 300+ lays and he now has money. Dude is flying chicks around.

Society is backwards and dim awarenesses...

In time will all collecticely grow up beyond the chicken fodder...

Jamie foxx is right about the mist BUT those are the same chicks getting spray painted in the face by me.

There are some women who have a moral code of never straying from the man she is with regardless of his quality of being...Then there are MANY chicks who will come into her feminine harmony when she locks down a solid dude never to be compelled by another man again.

Only a mans presence can do that.

Guys complaining about women straying need to look at there presence NOT fame/money. Presence has more personal power that money nor fame can ever buy.

There is no better feeling that social & sexual realms is never an issue again. It's like the worlds strongest man or crossfit athlete even special force units understanding exerting his strength in day to day life is pure endurance he is fit for anythinf that comes up in life.

P.S...Many guys are completely ignoring the impact the have on the world socially due to the fixation of trying to get women to like em. People many times look up to people for the wrong reasons

[BossOfBosses]

(01-11-2018 11:40 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

@vig The mist is a good analogy...

The issue seems to be a black n white absolute not applying it to real world variables...

What does it say about a consciousness who didn't like you broke BUT because you have fame/money it's tolerable.

Perfect example...Ex & I was at a table...Wannabe baller hops on side table spitting all this money related stuff. Was so intense my gf entertained it for comedic purposes...

My gf ex of 4 years family was rich...She hooked up with guy who had a manhattan penthouse & hot tub...GF ran off with a guy for 10 days when she was younger.

I literally have NOTHING other than tall & decent style...I'm broke, ok looking living with parents...

I tried SO HARD to get my gf to stop loving me. In her mind I am the greatest guy she's ever met despite meeting 100s of men. Were talking DJs, wealthy, locally famous, etc.

Doesn't add up right? Fluke? Nope...
- Chick I barely knew but run into alot STUNNING always well put together. One night I see her at a table with some good looking guy friends. Were talking top tier looks for a guy...I greet her she comes over and RANDOMLY says "I always feel so amazing when aroubd you"

- In prague...I was winging a friend trying to get him laid. I purposely self-sabotaged logistically so I wouldn't lead to being isolated indoors with my girl because I had my gf back home. My dumbass blackedout kissing her. My boy tried too hard & his girl was coming to me. I PURPOSELY had kept things non-sexual up to point where I did makeout. Do you know before they left this chick said I am the most amazing man she's ever met?

- Beautiful latina who is more euro than latin...She leaves her table declaring she has more fun with me. My boy insists that he likes this woman and wants me NOT to go for her. They end up dating, the guys at that table assumed he was the reason they lost that woman, not realizing it was me she ended up rolling with & I intro'd him

The thing that I learnt...

Anything external is beyond looks & fitness is 100% security for offspring. If you look at it in tribal times she will be secured to raise off-spring due to the provider she enticed.

HOWEVER, it's the womans consciousness that subtly makes them think...
- My son will have similar presence like his father
- My daughter will have a framework of what an awesome man should be like

A woman will get impregnated by those fascinating consciousness & let the provider raise the off spring as women will go for the highest quality off spring. A man can be both the "seed giver" and "provider". If he fits both roles the woman on a primal level has no reason to cheat. If her consciousness is high she would be aware that she can grow dynanically by exploring other men BUT wouldn't risk it if it means collapse of her 1 man who fits both roles.

The issue is men & women in general lack so much depth that many times they can only see shallow surfaces...
- Men generally desregard so much the hotter a woman is
- Women are TRICKED by men putting an illusion of fame & money

You can't FAKE a fascinating consciousness just like you can't fake being fit. It takes long term efforts to grow a body or consciousness. Yet, look on youtube how easy it is to fake money/fame. Heck, brands are aligned to the illusion of wealth, why else do many brands get fake and go lengths to show authenticity of the product.

A shoe is a shoe at the end of the day. Fake or not it still looks similar. Lease a supercar, aint no one saying "show me the papers that you own it".

Flipside...Girls have millions of IG followers just for being hot. Far more in comparison to people who actually offer value to a persons life.

Guys see there friend with a hot chick thinking "dude you gotta lock that down and marry her, do you see her"

The obsession of fame, looks, money stems from an inadequacy to legitmately become a "force of nature" on a consciousness level because like fitness it requires actual growth and experience...

Most just want their dick sucked from a hot chick, roll over and sleep. You wanna know what's funny...

Those same guys can go spend a few 100 bucks to bangout attractive hookers and go on with their lives. Yet EGO of "I wanna get it myself, what man am I if I didn't get her myself"

Truth is guys using "the mist" didn't get her himself. He tricked her with external spectale just like women wear makeup going from average to amazing...

You only see the true beauty when the make up wears off revealing her naturall essence. Just like a woman sees the primal offspring of a man who attracted her based on external factors.

Men are about visuals...Women are about offspring & security...

Do you ever feel guilty for banging a hot chick even if she turns out bat shit crazy?

Yet, go talk to women to hear just how many regrets of BAD choices they made due to being tricked by looks, fame & money.

This dreadful dogma of guys seeking money, fame & looks just to get women is 100% because of inadequacy for their lack of presence.

This is why a guy like me has devoured many women who had boyfriends or married. I've NEVER forced any woman not even my ex to "stick with me" it's not in my character.

Yet so many women for the time I've been with them decide only to be with me. Yet I have NOTHING external, I live with my fucking parents...

One thing I do know for sure, a woman will grow on a consciousness level immensely...

I know I am nothing like anyone she's ever met as I've self-discovered myself & gained so much depth from personal experiences. Exploring & growth isn't a passive thing, I live for it. Everything else is merely a logical consequence of me growing.

This is why I can never be IMPRESSED by a person's whole. There are only a handful of guys who have a fascinating consciousness and boatloads of external factors. Reason being is most humans are lazy, if they can attract with the external they feel no need to grow as a consciousness.

Do you know what happens if I had my own place? If I had wealth and/or fame? At best...

Nothing, at worst a bunch of chicks trying to get me to impregnate them.

My presence gets women in general, sex will never be a problem. Money would put logistics in my favor as in no more banking on public sex or her place. Fame would shift me from "wait who is that?" To "OMG its him!!! Quick grab him before some other chick does"

My ex used to state people are always looking at me in the club which explains why I've been told cetrain things in the past...As a couple people ALWAYS looked at us or complimented us. My ex was an ice queen & had a unique look, we both stood out.

I underrate myself so much but the trsnsformational impact is ridiculous. I broke cultural norms.

This is why beyond marginal profitability these types of discussions SUCKS because from my perspective it's like "stop being a low quality being and problems will erode".

My gf stated she grew so much and it showed in terms of her outings solo. It was like her college life all over again, she was loved by many. That aspect of her will go on for the rest of her life without me which is beautiful.

I have wealthy community dudes. You wanna know there current life situation...
- GF from SA, possibility of getting played...Says cold approach is dead & it doesn't work
- GF from SA, had a 4some or 5some
- GF he met while out she is used to pro hockey players chasinf her...In his luxury building he had girls staying in model apartments within the complex hanging at his place to pregame

Guess which one was influenced by me?

Guess which ones still were spending money on bootcamps & residentials?

Guess who still have problems getting laid, which is why they used SA and snagged a GF?

If I'm ever wealthy, my money won't be directed to women as there is no point. At most, I'm buying her lingerie to enhance the experience of devouring her. I have a friend who has over 300+ lays and he now has money. Dude is flying chicks around.

Society is backwards and dim awarenesses...

In time will all collecticely grow up beyond the chicken fodder...

Jamie foxx is right about the mist BUT those are the same chicks getting spray painted in the face by me.

There are some women who have a moral code of never straying from the man she is with regardless of his quality of being...Then there are MANY chicks who will come into her feminine harmony when she locks down a solid dude never to be compelled by another man again.

Only a mans presence can do that.

Guys complaining about women straying need to look at there presence NOT fame/money. Presence has more personal power that money nor fame can ever buy.

There is no better feeling that social & sexual realms is never an issue again. It's like the worlds strongest man or crossfit athlete even special force units understanding exerting his strength in day to day life is pure endurance he is fit for anythinf that comes up in life.

P.S...Many guys are completely ignoring the impact the have on the world socially due to the fixation of trying to get women to like em. People many times look up to people for the wrong reasons

You talk about a fake image. All I see is your anecdotal stories and your long braggadocious posts. If you want to convince people of your gospel your going to need show more proof of what your saying brother.

Most of the guys in the thread are literally saying the opposite of you based on their experiences.

[questor70]

(01-11-2018 02:36 AM)Vigilius Wrote:  

I dont see it this way. I don't think women hates it when betas use money as leverage. I think the hypergamy doesn't care what you use as leverage.

It's not whether hypergamy cares. It's that hypergamy operates out of a primitive part of the female brain rather than the rational side.

This is exactly why women say they want both nice guy and bad boy traits at different times and in different situations. They basically have two different identities cohabitating in their skulls. This inner struggle is expressed through their rational side as "feminism", which is meant to externalize their weakness by portraying themselves as helpless victims and blaming their bad decisions on men.

This is why feminists (at least the hardcore kind ala Chanty Binx) tend to come out of intelligentsia. They have stronger rational minds and they are more reflexively self-aware that there's a part of them that is vulnerable to bad boys (pickup) or beta bux. Rather than working on self-improvement, they take the easier road out by attempting to shame men into not using their leverage.

It's the bimbos that never really think through their mating decisions and just sort of skate through life, maybe occasionally complaining to their girlfriends over their pump-and-dumps. It's only the feminists who construct manifestos out of their own life-disappointment.

[Mumbojumbo]

I feel Elon has his choice but just a level down from him (most VCs, second tier company founders) have a surprisingly hard time pulling real talent.

Look at how weird the accounts told about Shervin Pishevar sound. He's just a level down from Musk (he started Hyperloop) and he chose the oddest ways to approach girls at social events. He clearly has no game and the money seem to not have helped (maybe made matters worse).

There is too much money in Silicon Valley for anyone to really care. Stardom is rare there as most Silicon Valley roles have little of that. So TV/ Interent fame helps but money alone (and business success) help very little it seems.

[Distant Light]

(01-11-2018 02:29 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  

You talk about a fake image. All I see is your anecdotal stories and your long braggadocious posts. If you want to convince people of your gospel your going to need show more proof of what your saying brother.

Most of the guys in the thread are literally saying the opposite of you based on their experiences.

Not trying to convince anyone, simply stating what I've observed and personal experiences...

Reason you're hearing opposite is because guys are jumping to conclusions based off 2nd hand experience NOT personal...

There is a saying "Proof can withstand the most rigorous testing" I transition from a PUA Junkie to a totally different person alittle over 7 years ago... (Was stuck in monogamy for almost 3 years) The men I learnt from are the ones who pull the strings in "pop culture", fashion & entertainment on a social level. Guys like Dan Blizerian & actor of wolf of wall street are guys who run in the same social circles as I once did.

I have yet to meet a community dude who's been in such realms on a personal level, I spend $0 in nightlife due to connections

P.S...Without going off-topic, I ironically got called out by someone assuming I have no personal experiences in these realms. Shared an archive video of my life in another thread

P.S.S...You'll notice I only post in threads where I have some form of wisdom to share. I'm almost never in the "travel" section as I haven't traveled yet to give info. Exception being Prague which the data is so little for me to feel compelled to share the whole experience. At best, travel section just gives me a reference to look deeper into cities that interest me in terms of how I want want to lead my life.

[Its All Love]

(01-11-2018 02:36 AM)Vigilius Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 09:31 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

What's the problem here?

The problem is women have some deep biological level hate it when betas use money as leverage to get poon. Feels like a crime against nature, but they can't frame it that way, hence "misogyny"....

I dont see it this way. I don't think women hates it when betas use money as leverage. I think the hypergamy doesn't care what you use as leverage.

Many things generate the tingles: Money, status, power, good looks, raw physical strength, charisma through the roof, etcetera. Hypergamy doesn't care.

I remember this interview that Jamie Fox did for The Foxxhole Radio after the Bill Cosby scandal broke. Jamie Fox talked about what he called "The Mist". He mentioned that when he was up and coming, he went to a party by P-Diddy and long story short, some of the girls started a false sexual accusation against him because they hate the way his toes look while he was making out with one of their friend. It was a funny story. P-Diddy accused the girls of starting drama and threw them out of his party; instantly, the girls grew repentant -- That is what saved Jamie Fox from being charged with sexual battery or assault. Years later after Jamie Fox is now famous, he ran into those girls again and they just couldn't keep their hands off him. Jamie Fox mentioned he still have the same set of toes; so what changed? Jamie called it the Mist. That women perception of you, emotionally fluctuates based on whatever value you possess almost regardless of how you obtained those values.

Look at Jamie Fox. Without the fame and money, etc. He is just another black guy that these parade of beautiful women won't touch. (If you read the RVF archives like I do; you will come across Veloce account of Jamie Fox experience at one of Veloce's restaurant.). But he had "the Mist" now, so I guess he is hot.

Same for Justin Beiber- without his music- is a very generic looking standard short white boy. But all those girls are seriously wetting their panties because of his "Mist". Same with the Beatles.

Just like fame, power, status, etcetera. Money is a Mist. Yes, bitches will wet their panties because of money. That is why I dont believe "women must hate having to sleep with betas because of money" argument.

With The Mist, any beta tendencies will be hamsterize away as "cuteness", as endearing, and as quirkiness. It is after the Mist dissipates that revulsion kicks back in again.

As Mark Cuban stated "Money makes you very handsome".

A good examples are the gold-digger pranks or "I am famous" pranks on youtube. Yes, some of them are fake, but some are genuine. Again, hypergamy doesn't care.

There was this Go Daddy advertisement featuring Bar Rafeali and this fat, pinkish guy Jesse Heiman.

What happened?

Women started trying to makeout with the guy just because Bar Rafeali pre-select this guy in an advertisement. I am sure he got a couple of lays from it.

In fact, one pretty news anchor lady(Maria Menounos) cuckhold her husband live on TV by intentionally making out with Jesse Heiman.

Here is Maria Menounos humping him full frontal and kissing Jesse Heiman.

If they hate it soo badly, why are these hot chicks making out with him? Maria Menounos is married with a big rock on her finger, for pete's sake. Here in broad daylight in front of millions and her husband and friends; cucking him openly with a fat fuck. Why? Because the fatfuck was preselected by Bar Rafaeli. Hypergamy doesnt care.

She tingles to experience Jesse Heiman due to a fake preselection by Bar Rafeali. Nobody put a gun to this news anchor head to go and make out with Jesse Heiman. She did it purposefully. Why?

The answer is simple: The Mist.

The Mist created from the Go Daddy advertisement of Bar Rafeali kissing Jesse Heiman turns him into something that other women wants to kiss.

Money also creates the Mist.

Here is another example:

Here is Jasmin Dustin kissing Jesse Heiman.

The Mist alters the beta into the alpha they want to get intimate with, even if temporarily. Men dont function like this. A fat fuck is still a fat fuck even if that fat fuck gets fucked by Brad Pitt in his prime. I don't care, I am not touching that fat fuck. But women hamster dont function rationally.

Take a look at the case of Harvey Weinstein. Now these women are saying he is a repulsive fat ugly human being. But before this scandal broke, Harvey Weinstein has power, influence and he was preselected through the roof with plenty of hot chicks, he is a kingmaker. I guarantee you the female hamsters of all those women was wetting their panties for him. Take a look at this example: Observe the Lip smacking, the look of greed/lust and excitement in her eyes; the way she gripped Oprah hands from excitement. She is besides herself just talking to Harvey Weinstein. Those panties were soaked.


Now of course to her, Harvey Weinstein is a evil, fat, ugly predator that Oprah pawned her off to.

Hypergamy doesnt care.

Amazing breakdowns and analyses. Excellent post.

[Jetset]

(01-10-2018 09:31 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

Then women keep themselves down by continuing to go to these parties. They go because they are attracted to money/status like moths to a flame.

What's the problem here?

The problem is women at some deep biological level hate it when betas use money as leverage to get poon. Feels like a crime against nature, but they can't frame it that way, hence "misogyny". The fact of the matter is, it wouldn't happen if women weren't willing to play along.

...and this is the part where skimming Ayn Rand helps everybody, because at the end of the day, we do live in an objective world with concrete, material realities that we all have to navigate in order to eat and stay warm.

This naturally raises the question for each and every one of us, what is it that you make? What do you create and produce, that you're trading for what you need?

If your only answer is "cumshots", that's at least as legit as what some other people do for a living, but own that and don't wrap it up in a bunch of pseudo-political idealistic bullshit.

Quote:

When I spoke about Silicon Valley’s sex parties—specifically those where women vastly outnumber men—with Elisabeth Sheff, a Chattanooga-based writer and professor who has spent two dec­ades researching open relationships, her reaction was heated: “That’s exploitation. That’s old-school, fucked-up masculine arrogance and borderline prostitution,” she said. “The men don’t have to prostitute themselves, because they have the money. . . . ‘I should be able to have sex with a woman because I’m a rich guy.’ That is not even one particle progressive; that is the same tired bullshit. It’s trying to blend the new and keeping the old attitudes, and those old attitudes are based in patriarchy, so they come at the expense of women.”

There's nothing borderline about it. It's straight-up prostitution. No discussion at all of why these women chose this over entrepreneurship: it's easy.

Quote:

Jennifer Russell, who runs the established Camp Mystic at Burning Man, is more sympathetic. “Men and women are equally drawn to creating a structure that invites their full sexual expression, and events like this are a safe place to dabble,” she says. “It’s way better than a swingers’ club would feel because this is at a home and you are surrounded by people you know.”

[Dragan]

The other day Musk admitted he was at a party that was reported as a "sex party" in Vanity Fair. He said there was no sex or drugs, lol.

[dogthom]

It's funny, on Roosh being "alpha" is always regarded as simply using psychological tricks to try to dupe women into sex, many of whom were probably pretty easy to begin with.

The real alpha's are guys like Zuckerberg and Musk and Gates. I wonder if they even would call themselves "alpha males"... I'm guessing not. Generally people who have to shout out that they are "alphas" are usually nobodies.

[Steelex]

With endless money comes endless expectations. Expectations that cannot be met.

Think about it, he has accomplished so much. How is any woman supposed to come in and offer him ANYTHING of value. I think his main problem is that he wants to be offered something valuable by a woman but it's just impossible.

[Akwesi]

(01-12-2018 10:00 AM)dogthom Wrote:  

It's funny, on Roosh being "alpha" is always regarded as simply using psychological tricks to try to dupe women into sex, many of whom were probably pretty easy to begin with.

The real alpha's are guys like Zuckerberg and Musk and Gates. I wonder if they even would call themselves "alpha males"... I'm guessing not. Generally people who have to shout out that they are "alphas" are usually nobodies.

You are obviously completely clueless about this forum.

[Jetset]

(01-12-2018 10:00 AM)dogthom Wrote:  

It's funny, on Roosh being "alpha" is always regarded as simply using psychological tricks to try to dupe women into sex, many of whom were probably pretty easy to begin with.

The real alpha's are guys like Zuckerberg and Musk and Gates. I wonder if they even would call themselves "alpha males"... I'm guessing not. Generally people who have to shout out that they are "alphas" are usually nobodies.

I take it you're unclear on the concept of negotiated attraction.

[Mufasa]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/elon...tume-party

Quote:

“Elon was at the party for a couple hours and left around 1am after talking with several DFJ-funded entrepreneurs about technology and building companies. His impression was that it was a corporate party with a costume theme, not a ‘sex party’, and there was no indication that it would become one after he left. “

[Jetset]

(01-12-2018 01:13 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/elon...tume-party

Quote:

“Elon was at the party for a couple hours and left around 1am after talking with several DFJ-funded entrepreneurs about technology and building companies. His impression was that it was a corporate party with a costume theme, not a ‘sex party’, and there was no indication that it would become one after he left. “

The commentary on this is perfect.

Quote:

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*takes deep breath*

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I hope this confuses Elon for the rest of his life. I hope he whips out his dick at every Halloween party he goes to from here on out. Just completely gets his signals crossed and assumes every party with costumes is a sex party.