[High Hanging Fruit]

I was playing a gig at a university student union once, and the support was a singer-songwriter on acoustic guitar.

I spoke with him afterwards for a while and he seemed like a decent guy. He was a bit geeky and chubby, but not bad looking.

A chubby girl then came over, who was acting as if she was incredibly hot for some unknown reason (she was a 6 at best). I had also caught her blatantly checking me out several times earlier. He introduced her as his girlfriend.

I thought I'd do him a solid and said "I was just saying how much I enjoyed your boyfriend's set." She guffawed with laughter and said "REALLY!!?"

I looked at him, and he actually bowed his head slightly in shame and embarrassment. That bitch literally held zero respect for him. I couldn't believe that he didn't call her out on it. I think I said something along the lines of "supportive girlfriend I see" but I hope that these days I'd fully call that bitch out on her behaviour.

[rw95]

Two stories, both close friends of mine.

One is two years younger than I am (I'm 20, he's 18). He's been with his girlfriend for about 3 1/2 years now. She's overweight, not attractive (a 6 at best), has slept around with at least 3 or 4 guys though there are probably more in her past, and is your typical atheist, career-minded modern woman. She's attending college in another state (red flag?), and after he graduates high school this year he plans to move to where she is. I can't see much good coming from this. I will give her the fact that she is incredibly supportive of him, and always went to see him perform when he had a show. Hope things work for him, but I foresee a messy divorce a decade or so down the road.

The other is one year younger than I. Closest thing to an anglo ideal in my social circle: tall, fair, handsome and in decent shape (lean, not cut). Two years ago went through an ordeal with a girl in his grade. He asked her to prom, she accepted but at the last minute backed out of it. Turns out he was just a rebound. He found out and was devastated for weeks. I still don't think he's completely recovered from it. What's worse is that this chick wasn't even attractive! She was probably a female 5 at BEST, while he's at least a male 8.

[1026]

A friend of mine, 27 year old, lives with his girl.
He's always been a relationship type gamer.

When I first met him in late '07, he had average newbie game.
As we all did.

Flip forward a few years, he's making dough & hitting the iron hard.
He's bulked.
His wife though is amorphous blob. ~HB3 (I'm being humane)
She was already fat when they were dating.
Cried when he tried gyming with her.
& has now exploded into gross obesity.

Poor sucker, whilst my single friends plough thick bitches.

Went to his house on New Year's Eve most recently.
Absolute disaster.
She disrespects him publicly, shouting out his shortcomings to the other party goers.
He's a classic beta male husband work dog.
It's a shame his wife is so unattractively obese & abusive.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-19-2015 02:22 PM)1026 Wrote:  

Flip forward a few years, he's making dough & hitting the iron hard.
He's bulked.
His wife though is amorphous blob. ~HB3 (I'm being humane)
She was already fat when they were dating.
Cried when he tried gyming with her.
& has now exploded into gross obesity.

She disrespects him publicly, shouting out his shortcomings to the other party goers.
He's a classic beta male husband work dog.
It's a shame his wife is so unattractively obese & abusive.

Damn, that is bad.

I know a guy who has spent the better part of a decade single with only a short break in between where he had some kind of e-girlfriend (they visited in person her and there, but mostly longdistance/online). I attribute it entirely to never having gotten over getting dumped (and I suspect cheated on) by his college girlfriend, who was fairly hot and definitely kinky.

Sad thing is that the dude is built for lifting. With just some simple lifting he can be a total beast-looking dude. He doesn't work out at all right now and he has arms twice my size. He has no motivation and while he does help his family a lot, he just sets himself up for failure every time or doesn't even try. There's nothing holding him back really but himself.

I've offered him jobs, I've offered him help, he just won't help himself.

[rudebwoy]

My friend was dating this chick for like ten years, still is with her. Both in their late 30s. She works odd jobs, usually more time not working. She wants to be a kept woman and wants buddy to get his own place, so she can have a "home".

She cheated on my friend, some slickster walked into the store she was working and sold her a dream. She took the bait, slickster got what he wanted and then dashed.

My friend took her back.

Now he spoils her more than before, giving her lavish gifts, money etc.

My friend feels he cannot get better.

[Bazzwaldo]

My mate used to fuck anything that moved, he rode Harley's and had a different woman (8+) each month, a great bloke too.
Roll on 25 years and he fell for the oldest trick in the book, a highly educated (doctor) 39 year old 5-6 who promptly fell pregnant to him (he earned 150k+ IT communications).
They get married, she stops her part time work, he gets layed off
Today, she gets tired being mummy all day, he cooks, cleans, works 2 days a week and gets paid in fresh organic vegetables, and 3 days doing IT at half the wages he used to get.
She is a snarky cunt too
He even says feminist stuff that makes my blood boil so I rip into him infront of her, told her, if being a mum is so hard, why don't you go out and get a job and let John be home Dad?
She doesn't like him hanging out with me any more

[GoldHawkStar]

In the past two years, one of my friends has wrote a love note to two (maybe more) different women on separate occasions that he had a "crush" on and put the note on their door.

Both didn't acknowledge him after that.

Keep in mind we're in fucking college.

[R_Niko]

A close friend, well former friend, married a girl he loved in high school but who wanted nothing to do with him til they were like 22-23. She always kept my friend as her beta male backup boyfriend, she'd call him when she was fighting with her her BF, etc. So they finally got together, and she got pregnant shortly after. Then years later they got married, then had two more kids. She spent all his money knowing he'd go to his parents for money when they needed it (his parents are well off, hers aren't). Got him to pay for her to go back to school, and generally enjoy nice things. Finally she had him pay $10K for cosmetic surgery, tits and I think something else. Then she kicked him out, having squeezed every last drop. I've completely lost respect for him.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(11-19-2015 12:25 PM)High Hanging Fruit Wrote:  

I was playing a gig at a university student union once, and the support was a singer-songwriter on acoustic guitar.

I spoke with him afterwards for a while and he seemed like a decent guy. He was a bit geeky and chubby, but not bad looking.

A chubby girl then came over, who was acting as if she was incredibly hot for some unknown reason (she was a 6 at best). I had also caught her blatantly checking me out several times earlier. He introduced her as his girlfriend.

I thought I'd do him a solid and said "I was just saying how much I enjoyed your boyfriend's set." She guffawed with laughter and said "REALLY!!?"

I looked at him, and he actually bowed his head slightly in shame and embarrassment. That bitch literally held zero respect for him. I couldn't believe that he didn't call her out on it. I think I said something along the lines of "supportive girlfriend I see" but I hope that these days I'd fully call that bitch out on her behaviour.

"A chubby girl then came over, who was acting as if she was incredibly hot for some unknown reason..."

This seems to be a sadly fucking regular occurrence in the United States. FOR SOME REASON.

Seems the more pounds they pack on, the worse the attitude gets. Someday maybe scientists will discover there is an enzyme in fat tissue that affects the female brain, causing funhouse-mirror-like delusions.

[R_Niko]

(11-26-2015 10:07 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Seems the more pounds they pack on, the worse the attitude gets. Someday maybe scientists will discover there is an enzyme in fat tissue that affects the female brain, causing funhouse-mirror-like delusions.

I think it's more the fact that being fat forces them into the feminist paradigm. "Fat is beautiful" - she needs to be able to believe stuff like that in order to justify and validate her existence, since no decent man is likely to do so. So she buys in, fully commits.

[Rhyme or Reason]

A friend I’ve known for a long time came out to me as a Game Denialist over the weekend. He’s always been pretty bluepill, so it’s not a shock. He thinks that because he’s got a new girlfriend that somehow means game doesn’t work. I know. Makes absolutely no sense. I hadn’t seen him in a while, so I decided to go hang with him this weekend. All we ended up doing was playing video games that night before hitting the bar. It was a good reminder as to why I usually role solo. The place was crowded with decent looking chicks, too. But being in the presence of him made it impossible for me to approach. He’s blown me out many, many times in the past with his cluelessness. He’s aware of game, and I’ve even tried him to get to read Roosh’s material. This was the comment that made me write him off:

“All that PUA and game shit is bullshit. Like, if you were to go hit on one of these girls, it wouldn’t work. See, its bullshit.”

This coming from a dude who puts zero effort in his appearance, has no game, and used to constantly cock block his friends back in high school. So of course to him it’s all bullshit. Betas don’t want to believe they can actually do anything to improve their odds with women, which puts all the power in the hands of the female. If they don’t “pick you” for “just being you” then it’s “cheating” and you’re “misrepresenting yourself”.

He’s basically saying that going out to a bar looking unkempt, after playing vidya for hours shouldn’t reduce your attractiveness. That’s bullshit. There’s such a huge difference in the success I have with women when I spend the day doing something productive, being social, and making sure I look sharp. But sitting there next to him, coming off a video game session, and feeling like shit by association, put me in the same mental space he was in. I think that’ll be the last time I hit the bar with him for a while.


Keep your beta friends compartmentalized. Don’t let the beta stink attach itself to you.

[masoud_akbari]

Do you guys find it hard to leave a good friend you have known for say 5-6 years, to succeed with women instead? or is it easy once you have swallowed the "red pill"?

[MiscBrah]

(01-19-2016 04:50 PM)masoud_akbari Wrote:  

Do you guys find it hard to leave a good friend you have known for say 5-6 years, to succeed with women instead? or is it easy once you have swallowed the "red pill"?

Its never easy to leave a good friend whether you've taken the red pill or not. I don't know why you would have to leave your "friend" to succeed with women either. Maybe he is blue pill or doesn't want to get better with women, you can easily accept this and do other things with each other. Theres a million other ways to bond with men besides chasing women, search something out or I suspect he wasn't really a "good friend" to begin with.

[masoud_akbari]

(01-19-2016 04:57 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 04:50 PM)masoud_akbari Wrote:  

Do you guys find it hard to leave a good friend you have known for say 5-6 years, to succeed with women instead? or is it easy once you have swallowed the "red pill"?

Its never easy to leave a good friend whether you've taken the red pill or not. I don't know why you would have to leave your "friend" to succeed with women either. Maybe he is blue pill or doesn't want to get better with women, you can easily accept this and do other things with each other. Theres a million other ways to bond with men besides chasing women, search something out or I suspect he wasn't really a "good friend" to begin with.

Ive not taken the red pill, was just wondering. But if you are entering the world of "game", surely it means that you wont have the chance to play video games and "chill doing nothing", like most beta friends (like me) like doing.

[Matsufubu]

Back at school (age 17/18) had a friend who'd recently joined and was accepted into my social circle. Pretty cool guy, not exactly Brad Pitt but maybe a 5 and knew everything about computers. Always came out drinking with us, chilled out, etc.

Anyway, about 6 months later a really hot girl (8-9) joins the school. He's got the hots for her big time, but she's got DJ boyfriend so he's got no chance. Gradually he spends less time with us and more time being her 'friend' (i.e. sniffing around waiting for his chance) Changed his character completely to try to impress her (i.e. turn up the beta to 11), and even disrespected me and my friends in front of her to try to show his loyalty to her. Eventually Mr DJ gives her the boot and she's vulnerable, and gives in and gets with former friend. Talk about a mismatch. Despite his Betamax attempts, she eventually gets over her emotional fragility, thinks "What the hell am I doing with this loser, I'm hot" and dumps him maybe 3 months later. No idea if he even had the balls to seal the deal.

Soon after that he's making overtures to get back in with my friends and I...no way back dude, fuck right off. Now he's got no girlfriend, no friends and lacks the coolness to get in with the super-popular crowd. He spent the rest of his time at school hanging out with his cousin and no-one else.

Lesson there fellas: Bros before hos.
Every.
Fucking.
Time.

[thisisright]

(03-17-2013 12:31 AM)liberman Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 01:17 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

- Another random FB feed, from some girl I went to HS with that's a 5th grade teacher now. One of her students wrote her this as some sort of quote interpretation assignment:

"I don't think you're beautiful. I think you're beyond it. - Lil Wayne...I chose this quote not because I like him because it follows the 7 habits of happy kids. I think Miss _____ is beautiful and beyond it. For example, she is sweet and not mean. She lets us sit by who we want to at lunch. She doesn't give us piles of homework. She gives us projects like redecorating our school's bathroom. She lets us do all types of projects that are fun. It's not just about looks she has a very kind heart and doesn't do stuff badly. I love her."

So much wrong with this one I don't even know where to start. 5th grader whiteknight-in-training and being beta as fuck in our society is viewed as a kid just being "sweet and loving". The female worship has already been ingrained into this poor kid. His mom probably helped him with the idea and the writing (notice that mommy let a few mistakes fly so that it would look more genuine)...and the teacher not teaching but letting kids decorate...just insane.

I dont understand how mothers can give such bad advice to their sons when it comes to women. They must know deep down that treating a women like a princess is the fastest way to the friend zone and a sexless life. Its like they are giving advice for a perfect society where good actions are rewarded and girls are not turned on by assholes.

I distinctly remember years ago well before I got into game watching the king of beta movies Love Actually with my mum (non US spelling) and her friends daughters. There is a scene were one of the guys expresses his true feelings to a girl he secretly loved via silent board messages on christmas eve.

My mum said to me doing that would melt any girls heart and would be the way to win a girl over. The daughters watching promptly agreed probably wishing some guy would do that to them.

even back then I somehow knew that doing something like that would simply not work in "winning over" a girl so thankfully I never tried it.

it works if you look 10/10 like the guy who did it. You missed that part.

[Krieg]

My housemate lived with a girl for over a year and had sex with her 3 or 4 times.He admitted it himself.
Than he proposed to his other gf on the top of a mountain where they got in a rented chopper.I know her, she is a moody little bitch.

[Barron]

This thread has humbled me and made me thankful for finding my way out of bluepill damnation. If ever I get discouraged or on a dry spell I'll remember these stories.

[RIslander]

Three of us are at the bar and my buddy gets a call from his annoying ass girlfriend. She is on a business trip some 3000 miles away. We watch him through the window for over an hour pacing and talking on the phone. Eventually he comes in and says he has to go home, because his girlfriend doesn't want him out at the bar. He leaves.

This was our reaction:

[AneroidOcean]

(01-19-2016 10:07 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

Three of us are at the bar and my buddy gets a call from his annoying ass girlfriend. She is on a business trip some 3000 miles away. We watch him through the window for over an hour pacing and talking on the phone. Eventually he comes in and says he has to go home, because his girlfriend doesn't want him out at the bar. He leaves.

My "friend" was at a really nice/expensive tropical resort surrounded by crystal clear water after a night of stellar food/wine with great friends (and an opportunity to game vacationing hot chicks). He didn't game any of the girls really and instead spent some of the night on the balcony calling international for a shitload of money his new girlfriend back home who was pissed off for some stupid reason. He came back and she broke up with him. What an idiot that "friend" was.

[Wutang]

- College roommate/friend of mine is dating his high school sweet heart. She's two years younger so for the first two years of college she was still in high school. She wanted to break up with him but he saved the relationship by basically going home every weekend (2 hour drive one way) to hang out with her. As you can, he wanted the relationship bad.

- He convinces her to go to the same university we are at. She arrives and proceeds to quickly put on the freshmen 15 and followed by the sophomore 15 followed by the...you get the idea. Basically her weight blows up to the point where one time my mom was visiting our apartment and later when she was asking about my roommate she said "Oh he's the one with the fat girlfriend right?" I have another friend who also knows my roommate who asks me if he has a thing for fat chicks.

- Despite her low value she is totally in control of the relationship and knows it. Once my roommate was sick for a few days and couldn't do his nightly calls to her cause of that. She gets super pissed off and they get into a huge fight over this. During this time we have a party at our apartment and the whole time my roommate is hiding in his bed room because he doesn't want to confront his girlfriend. I stay in his room and play the first UFC game on Xbox360 with him.

- He's trying to avoid her but it doesn't matter since she comes in half drunk and proceeds to scream and yell at him saying stuff "go fuck yourself" and "why don't you go suck your own cock". She rambles like this for a while before leaving. During this browbeating my buddy is silent the entire time. After she leaves he punches the wall in frustration.

- The next day he actually calls her to apologize even though he did absolutely nothing wrong and she was the one acting totally unreasonable. To this day I am still super curious about what exactly he "apologized" for.

[Tytalus]

(09-30-2011 08:47 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I caught my friend enthusiastically baking a strawberry shortcake from scratch for his girlfriend. LOL

Depending on the guy's frame tho that can impress a woman (be a statement of high value) and get a guy laid. I know it worked for me.

[ball dont lie]

(01-19-2016 10:37 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

(09-30-2011 08:47 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I caught my friend enthusiastically baking a strawberry shortcake from scratch for his girlfriend. LOL

Depending on the guy's frame tho that can impress a woman (be a statement of high value) and get a guy laid. I know it worked for me.

Many notches have come from me saying, "that shit you cooked last time was terrible, let me show you how its done." Make a delicious meal. Take her to the couch. Take her clothes off. Fun.

[ball dont lie]

I have a friend that went from a complete natural player, notch count over 100 to settling down taking care of a divorced woman and her kid, leaving his highly paid job to take one at 50% so he could move to her city, then went house shopping with her to buy a house with her. Doesn't make any sense. On top of that, he went from a stone cold conservative to highly judgmental leftist. Before politics didn't interest him, now he gets in your face asking why you don't support homosexual marriage because they love each other too.

No idea what happened. Guy actually is even more handsome than he was at 25, now that he is 35.

[churros]

In college, there was a pretty feisty young blonde that used to hang with us. We had all gone through her at one point or another. The whole time, her "best friend" remained in love with her, but never got any. She was maybe 7.5 or 8, and gamed guys effectively.

She was the only girl I ever knew who boasted about between "spitroasted" by some surfer dude and his friend. They gave each other a high five as they railed her from either side. The whole time, her "best friend" watched from the sidelines.

She's approaching thirty and married him last year. I wasn't invited to the wedding. When I complained about the shame of this to one of my other friends, he said: "you're not still doing that game shit, are you?" His current girl is a 3 or 4.