[spydersuit]

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

The one article about "Allah" written into some clothes that were found at a Viking burial sounds like bullshit to me. The article states that "Allah" and "Ali" can be read from the clothes if you read their reflection from a mirror. What is it, the fucking Davinci code?

Here's the inscription


Here's the ring they found a couple years back



and this is the pattern they're claiming to also see "For Allah" in



Draw your own conclusion. The ring is obviously an inscription, but the pattern in the clothes I just do not see.

Were Viking and Muslim cultures in contact? Arguably, but it's not like the Norse were praying to Mecca five times a day. The Moors showed up in Spain in the 700's and the Vikings attacked about a century later, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that some ideas were borrowed. The Vikings were not terribly successful in Spain, nor did they spend a lot of time there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_raid_on_Seville

Given that all we know about Viking paganism was written by Snorri Sturluson centuries after that event, it's possible that ideas were taken from Islam.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

Agree 100%. Having spent considerable time in very cold climates, and from spending time throughout Scandinavia, it seems like the Vikings merely behaved the way they did as way to survive the harsh environment with very limited resources.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

...
The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

Finally!

This forum has become absolutely swamped with viking-worship threads. /Pol and ROK, too.

Open up the -new posts- link and click on a random thread. Guaran-fucking-teed it will be some shit about how vikings built the god damned pyramids and invented fucking shampoo.

It's about time someone tackled this issue. It's getting way the fuck out of hand.

[nomadbrah]

Vikings didn't allow women to wear pants.

Fact.

Today nordic women only wear pants.

Sad.

[nomadbrah]

In before Atlanta Man joins to tell us all of his love of white women.

[Mage]

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

The one article about "Allah" written into some clothes that were found at a Viking burial sounds like bullshit to me. The article states that "Allah" and "Ali" can be read from the clothes if you read their reflection from a mirror. What is it, the fucking Davinci code?

Here's the inscription


Here's the ring they found a couple years back



and this is the pattern they're claiming to also see "For Allah" in



Draw your own conclusion. The ring is obviously an inscription, but the pattern in the clothes I just do not see.

Were Viking and Muslim cultures in contact? Arguably, but it's not like the Norse were praying to Mecca five times a day. The Moors showed up in Spain in the 700's and the Vikings attacked about a century later, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that some ideas were borrowed. The Vikings were not terribly successful in Spain, nor did they spend a lot of time there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_raid_on_Seville

Given that all we know about Viking paganism was written by Snorri Sturluson centuries after that event, it's possible that ideas were taken from Islam.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

Muslims are notorious for trying to find the name of Allah everywhere. It''s their tactic of "producing miracles" as evidence for their religion.

Look the gallery in this album. You will see that some Muslims spend a lot of time to search for patterns similar to Arabic way of writing Allah in plants, rocks, mountainsides, surfaces of earth and other planets, human organs, animal skins and pretty much everywhere.

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/islam/images...ture-photo

If you are a smart person you understand that you can find any pattern, anywhere if you search long enough. If you have paranoia you will see patterns anywhere.

[spydersuit]

(01-07-2018 11:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

The one article about "Allah" written into some clothes that were found at a Viking burial sounds like bullshit to me. The article states that "Allah" and "Ali" can be read from the clothes if you read their reflection from a mirror. What is it, the fucking Davinci code?

Here's the inscription


Here's the ring they found a couple years back



and this is the pattern they're claiming to also see "For Allah" in



Draw your own conclusion. The ring is obviously an inscription, but the pattern in the clothes I just do not see.

Were Viking and Muslim cultures in contact? Arguably, but it's not like the Norse were praying to Mecca five times a day. The Moors showed up in Spain in the 700's and the Vikings attacked about a century later, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that some ideas were borrowed. The Vikings were not terribly successful in Spain, nor did they spend a lot of time there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_raid_on_Seville

Given that all we know about Viking paganism was written by Snorri Sturluson centuries after that event, it's possible that ideas were taken from Islam.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

Muslims are notorious for trying to find the name of Allah everywhere. It''s their tactic of "producing miracles" as evidence for their religion.

Look the gallery in this album. You will see that some Muslims spend a lot of time to search for patterns similar to Arabic way of writing Allah in plants, rocks, human organs on animal skins and pretty much everywhere.

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/islam/images...ture-photo

People from most religions try to find meaning and evidence for their beliefs in their experiences or in the physical environment.

[cascadecombo]

(01-07-2018 11:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  

My response on the contrary indicates that I am familiar with both sides of argument and can tell to which side each argument leads.

No it doesn't, it sounded angry and bitter and showed an unwillingness for a discussion. Meanwhile op put points down and provided evidence. Unlike your low energy response.

[cascadecombo]

(01-07-2018 11:40 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

The one article about "Allah" written into some clothes that were found at a Viking burial sounds like bullshit to me. The article states that "Allah" and "Ali" can be read from the clothes if you read their reflection from a mirror. What is it, the fucking Davinci code?

Here's the inscription


Here's the ring they found a couple years back



and this is the pattern they're claiming to also see "For Allah" in



Draw your own conclusion. The ring is obviously an inscription, but the pattern in the clothes I just do not see.

Were Viking and Muslim cultures in contact? Arguably, but it's not like the Norse were praying to Mecca five times a day. The Moors showed up in Spain in the 700's and the Vikings attacked about a century later, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that some ideas were borrowed. The Vikings were not terribly successful in Spain, nor did they spend a lot of time there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_raid_on_Seville

Given that all we know about Viking paganism was written by Snorri Sturluson centuries after that event, it's possible that ideas were taken from Islam.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

Muslims are notorious for trying to find the name of Allah everywhere. It''s their tactic of "producing miracles" as evidence for their religion.

Look the gallery in this album. You will see that some Muslims spend a lot of time to search for patterns similar to Arabic way of writing Allah in plants, rocks, human organs on animal skins and pretty much everywhere.

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/islam/images...ture-photo

People from most religions try to find meaning and evidence for their beliefs in their experiences or in the physical environment.

Arabs can literally take a scribble and find words in it.

They only recently started using the dots in order to better distinguish just what the words actually are. Not to mention it's only a recent phenomenon that a number can read, before it'd be a single guy in a village reading for people, and even then he'd make shit up half the time.

The original image at best looks like a rough interpretation of a cursive variant.

[david.garrett84]

OP is definitely not a troll - I'd say he just has a keen sense of humor on a Sunday morning or afternoon.

He did, however, neglect the part of Tacitus' work where he describes how cheating/adulterous Germanic sluts are shamed or banished.

In fact, Tacitus compares the Germanics to the Sitones (also Germanic by modern standards, but Tacitus doesn't realize this), saying the Sitones are, in contrast to the "Germans", ruled by women. The Sitones comment is clearly a flight of fancy, given that the Romans really had no idea what happened past the Germania frontier.

All that guest contributor for ROK says is that, based on Tacitus, Germanic women would give speeches urging their men not to let them (the women) be captured. The men did the actual fighting 99% of the time. No different from women getting involved verbally when men had duels until the early 20th century.

Any cursory reading of someone like Plutarch (or Tacitus) reveals that Republican and Early Imperial Romans were greeted by Germanic or non-Germanic invaders who often migrated with women and children, but maintained traditional gender roles, especially martially.

[Hannibal]

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

What we know of the Vikings as cultural egalitarians is generally just guesswork and it's guesswork done by the kinds of people who go into soft sciences like archaeology; midwit level retards who can secure student loans. Read about any old culture and take a shot every time they write "religious ritual" and you'll be fucking dead after a couple paragraphs.

These are the same kinds of people who deduced that European women from the Bronze age were "key to exploration" based on the fact that her skeletal remains were found 300 miles from her birth place.

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/b...d-at-home/

The fact that an American history class 30 years ago sounds so much different than one taken today tells me that historians, archaeologists, and all people involved with recording how people lived their lives have an axe to grind and an agenda to push.

So color me skeptical when it comes to any historical claims on gender roles or cultural phenomenon or what-have-you on cultures that didn't write shit down, especially ones that have been dead for so long they can't argue.

[spydersuit]

(01-07-2018 11:43 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:40 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

The one article about "Allah" written into some clothes that were found at a Viking burial sounds like bullshit to me. The article states that "Allah" and "Ali" can be read from the clothes if you read their reflection from a mirror. What is it, the fucking Davinci code?

Here's the inscription


Here's the ring they found a couple years back



and this is the pattern they're claiming to also see "For Allah" in



Draw your own conclusion. The ring is obviously an inscription, but the pattern in the clothes I just do not see.

Were Viking and Muslim cultures in contact? Arguably, but it's not like the Norse were praying to Mecca five times a day. The Moors showed up in Spain in the 700's and the Vikings attacked about a century later, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that some ideas were borrowed. The Vikings were not terribly successful in Spain, nor did they spend a lot of time there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_raid_on_Seville

Given that all we know about Viking paganism was written by Snorri Sturluson centuries after that event, it's possible that ideas were taken from Islam.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

Muslims are notorious for trying to find the name of Allah everywhere. It''s their tactic of "producing miracles" as evidence for their religion.

Look the gallery in this album. You will see that some Muslims spend a lot of time to search for patterns similar to Arabic way of writing Allah in plants, rocks, human organs on animal skins and pretty much everywhere.

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/islam/images...ture-photo

People from most religions try to find meaning and evidence for their beliefs in their experiences or in the physical environment.

Arabs can literally take a scribble and find words in it.

They only recently started using the dots in order to better distinguish just what the words actually are. Not to mention it's only a recent phenomenon that a number can read, before it'd be a single guy in a village reading for people, and even then he'd make shit up half the time.

The original image at best looks like a rough interpretation of a cursive variant.

So what is your point in relationship to my statement?

[Mage]

(01-07-2018 11:41 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  

My response on the contrary indicates that I am familiar with both sides of argument and can tell to which side each argument leads.

No it doesn't, it sounded angry and bitter and showed an unwillingness for a discussion. Meanwhile op put points down and provided evidence. Unlike your low energy response.

Ok, I understand you are not the type of audience who needs truth or irony. You need warm emotions and smiles and high energy to feel good about the message.

My bad, I forgot to game you. Indeed I should have known better, the game never stops. I promise I will try to be more positive and more feelings oriented with you in future.

Here, I give you this box of chocolate my friend . may you only encounter good posts on internet, sweet like this chocolate.

[david.garrett84]

Some guys need to just see this back and forth as that - mere back and forth.

We can agree to disagree without anger or ad hominems.

By the way, remember when Mark Zuckerberg's sister tried to go after Quintus because she wanted more women's stories from Roman times?

Reminds me of some elements of this thread.

If you want ten minutes of laughter: https://eidolon.pub/how-to-be-a-good-cla...848df6e54a

[Hannibal]

(01-07-2018 11:40 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  

People from most religions try to find meaning and evidence for their beliefs in their experiences or in the physical environment.

I've never had a Christian guy try to convert me by saying that God wrote "Jesus is Lord" in the seashells on the shore or that the science in the Bible was not only sound, but hundreds/thousands of years ahead of its time.

I have, however, ran into several members of another faith who try to convince me with either argument.

[Huey]

[spydersuit]

(01-07-2018 11:45 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

What we know of the Vikings as cultural egalitarians is generally just guesswork and it's guesswork done by the kinds of people who go into soft sciences like archaeology;

Hmm. I bet these people score higher on an IQ test than you

midwit level retards who can secure student loans.

I have degrees in social science, engineering, and life science, and have worked in academia for years. This is typically not the case. Most people with Ph.D.s get paid to obtain them and these are the people you attempt to bash. In fact, many research archaeologists and anthropologists start around 80-90k a year



Read about any old culture and take a shot every time they write "religious ritual" and you'll be fucking dead after a couple paragraphs.



Have any evidence of this from a peer reviewed journal? Scientists do not write in the way you suggest. You are getting your scientific information from the media. The media fucks up science on a regular basis


These are the same kinds of people who deduced that European women from the Bronze age were "key to exploration" based on the fact that her skeletal remains were found 300 miles from her birth place.

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/b...d-at-home/

You cited a news article. Not the paper. Don't get mad at the scientists because you cited a news article. Also, these people used some very advanced scientific methods from "hard" science. I don't think you know what you are talking about (here is the paper): http://www.shh.mpg.de/607527/mobile-women


The fact that an American history class 30 years ago sounds so much different than one taken today tells me that historians, archaeologists, and all people involved with recording how people lived their lives have an axe to grind and an agenda to push.

When was the last time that you took an American History class?[b]



So color me skeptical when it comes to any historical claims on gender roles or cultural phenomenon or what-have-you on cultures that didn't write shit down, especially ones that have been dead for so long they can't argue.


After examining your purported facts, I am skeptical of everything you write.

[spydersuit]

(01-07-2018 11:57 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:40 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  

People from most religions try to find meaning and evidence for their beliefs in their experiences or in the physical environment.

I've never had a Christian guy try to convert me by saying that God wrote "Jesus is Lord" in the seashells on the shore or that the science in the Bible was not only sound, but hundreds/thousands of years ahead of its time.

I have, however, ran into several members of another faith who try to convince me with either argument.

You need to get out more often then

[Mage]

(01-07-2018 12:05 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:45 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

What we know of the Vikings as cultural egalitarians is generally just guesswork and it's guesswork done by the kinds of people who go into soft sciences like archaeology;

Hmm. I bet these people score higher on an IQ test than you

midwit level retards who can secure student loans.

I have degrees in social science, engineering, and life science, and have worked in academia for years. This is typically not the case. Most people with Ph.D.s get paid to obtain them and these are the people you attempt to bash. In fact, many research archaeologists and anthropologists start around 80-90k a year



Read about any old culture and take a shot every time they write "religious ritual" and you'll be fucking dead after a couple paragraphs.



Have any evidence of this from a peer reviewed journal? Scientists do not write in the way you suggest. You are getting your scientific information from the media. The media fucks up science on a regular basis


These are the same kinds of people who deduced that European women from the Bronze age were "key to exploration" based on the fact that her skeletal remains were found 300 miles from her birth place.

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/b...d-at-home/

You cited a news article. Not the paper. Don't get mad at the scientists because you cited a news article. Also, these people used some very advanced scientific methods from "hard" science. I don't think you know what you are talking about (here is the paper): http://www.shh.mpg.de/607527/mobile-women


The fact that an American history class 30 years ago sounds so much different than one taken today tells me that historians, archaeologists, and all people involved with recording how people lived their lives have an axe to grind and an agenda to push.

When was the last time that you took an American History class?[b]



So color me skeptical when it comes to any historical claims on gender roles or cultural phenomenon or what-have-you on cultures that didn't write shit down, especially ones that have been dead for so long they can't argue.


After examining your purported facts, I am skeptical of everything you write.

Hey professor with high IQ and lifetime in academia! How about you learn to format your post and quotes correctly?

[Atlanta Man]

(01-07-2018 11:35 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

In before Atlanta Man joins to tell us all of his love of white women.

You know how I feel about white women.....

[Mage]

(01-07-2018 12:20 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

You know how I feel about white women.....

Everybody likes white women.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

   

[cascadecombo]

(01-07-2018 11:54 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:41 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 11:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  

My response on the contrary indicates that I am familiar with both sides of argument and can tell to which side each argument leads.

No it doesn't, it sounded angry and bitter and showed an unwillingness for a discussion. Meanwhile op put points down and provided evidence. Unlike your low energy response.

Ok, I understand you are not the type of audience who needs truth or irony. You need warm emotions and smiles and high energy to feel good about the message.

My bad, I forgot to game you. Indeed I should have known better, the game never stops. I promise I will try to be more positive and more feelings oriented with you in future.

Here, I give you this box of chocolate my friend . may you only encounter good posts on internet, sweet like this chocolate.

Quote:


unwillingness for a discussion.

Giving chocolates is for beta fags.

[Suits]

(01-07-2018 12:21 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 12:20 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

You know how I feel about white women.....

Everybody likes white women.

[Aurini]

(01-07-2018 10:53 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:44 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

The point of this thread is to kill the myth that the alt right and some in the manosphere believe that the vikings were something close to Godly, they were no better or no worse than others in Europe. They were certainly much more egalitarian culturally.

Many in the Alt Right is so thirsty for daddy's approval that even if you proved to them that the Vikings were the first feminists, all they'd do is then embrace Feminism, and denounce Gamergate as a conspiracy started by Sargon of Akkad to dethrone m'lady Sarkeesian.

[Mage]

(01-07-2018 12:29 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

Giving chocolates is for beta fags.

You might be right.

(01-07-2018 12:34 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 12:21 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 12:20 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

You know how I feel about white women.....

Everybody likes white women.

It's okay to be different Suits!