[Hannibal]

(06-27-2018 07:53 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 07:04 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

I started a 5 hour feeding window type of diet a week ago and here are some initial observations.

Just out of curiosity, at what time do you start the 5 hours window?

On a normal day when I don't have anything going on and I'm with family, I'll break my fast at noon and end it at 5 (on a work day it's 11:15 to 4:15). That way you get lunch and dinner with all the normal people and you can still have coffee in the morning without advertising that you're on a diet or anything. You can also eat tremendous amounts of food in a sitting and make all the fat people jealous of your "fast metabolism".

[Davis]

(06-27-2018 03:21 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 05:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Has anyone been keeping track of body fat and stuff as they do it? Like calipers and stuff?

I'm very curious about how much muscle building is happening and how much of it is just fat and water melting off.

On IF I'm a lot sharper looking in terms of lines, but I'm not actually bigger, I'm just a little more "dry" since I'm not getting all that water off the food.

I want to believe it's got serious musclebuilding potential but still a bit skeptical. Love IF for fat loss and lifestyle otherwise, though.

I use the accumeasure calipers. They're accurate enough and fast once you learn how to use it.



I believe it's called the "Accu-Measure Fitness 3000 Personal Body Fat Caliper Measurement Tool". Big name for a cheap tool, they run you about seven bucks on Amazon.

Thanks for this great thread, Cr33pin!

I have been doing time-restricted eating (mostly) for about 2 years and counting. What I have been doing is skipping breakfast and having my first proper meal at around lunchtime. I do have quite a few cheat days where I have this constant nagging hungry feeling at night, so it's something to work on.

I have always been somewhat lean, what I have noticed is that overall my weight has gone done, and there's less belly fat around my waist.

When I was working out, I wanted to get a fat-measuring weighting machine, but the good ones seem to be rather expensive, and the next best alternatives would be a set of calipers. Think it will be a good time to start now.

I do not do workout regularly, although I do cardio exercises weekly, but am also skeptical about the muscle building effects of time-restricted eating, without incorporating muscle-building exercises.

[godfather dust]

I've lost 20 pounds in a month doing this, and I even fucked up the time frame 4 or 5 times (work etc)

[Kangaroo]

I've been doing this for a month, improved my digestive system and i now fall asleep instantly.

[hlingzing]

Been doing intermittent fasting for years now with just coffee in the morning.

It's been great to maintain weight/physique + the mental clarity in the morning, but not so great when actually trying to gain some weight.

[Thor]

Been trying out the time restricted eating for a while with good results. I am on TRT as well. Just came back from a weeks vacation a few days ago. I was with a girl so my diet went to shit, too many temptations. How fast the belly grows in just a few days, it was a shock. So when I came back home I went straight back to TRE. 2 days I ago I decided to mix TRE and carnivore diet together. Its been tough but I´m hanging in there. Gonna report back when I see how it´s going.

[RexImperator]

I found that restricting myself to two meals worked for a time but I think my body had now adapted. I may need to go down to one meal per day to see further weight loss.

I’ve lost a lot of string in the gym. About 40 lbs off of the bench and overhead press.

[Cr33pin]

(01-03-2018 10:41 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

I believe this is a bit different then intermittent fasting as its a longer eating window...

I'm a big fan of Dr. Rhonda Patrick

She says mice gained more lean muscle mass eating in a ten hour window and they didn't even go to the gym!!

I started eating during a 10 hour window after listeningto this podcast. I actually only eat meals in a 7 hour window. I don't eat anything after 7pm or anything before 9am. However at 9am I only have some bullet proof coffee and a banana, I don't eat my first meal of the day until 12. Then I usually have turkey sausage and eggs, sometime around 2-3 I will have a sandwich and then around 6 I have a decent dinner.

I've only been doing this for 3 weeks and I have seen some solid loss of fat stored in my belly area. I haven't been hitting the gym like I should do to a injury so I don't know how amazing the gains will be. I think the combination of the time restricted eating and gym could produce some impressive lean muscle miracles.

Original video seems to have been taken down... but here it is in all its glory

[General Stalin]

You still doing this daily? Give us a 1+ year update

[Tail Gunner]

(04-14-2019 12:51 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

You still doing this daily? Give us a 1+ year update

I have not eaten breakfast in decades, even before intermittent fasting became a thing. I eat only between noon and 8:00 p.m. This morning I ran intensive sprints (HIIT training) at 11:00 a.m., after fasting about 16 hours. While doing intermittent fasting you want to work out near the end of your fast, if that is possible. Intermittent fasting can, among other things, increase human growth hormone by up to 2000% in men.

Much of this information is discussed in the fasting thread. I have personally done a medically supervised 14-day water-only fast.

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[Cr33pin]

(04-14-2019 12:51 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

You still doing this daily? Give us a 1+ year update

Still doing this... I will do this for life, it feels a lot more natural then stuffing myself with food for 12-16 hours a day.

The results are th same as when I started really, I burn fat a lot better, I have more energy, less gas/digestive issues... a long list of other things but I'm not sure if I can attribute them all to this (as I implement many healthy habits into my life) so I'm not going to list them.

[ed pluribus unum]

Started this in June of last year, still on it despite missing a week here or there (maybe 3 weeks total).

I didn't have a lot of weight to lose and have not made any big changes in what I eat/drink; I very rarely eat prepared foods, so that hasn't changed. I still like my beer, that hasn't changed either. I mainly do cardio as opposed to lifting (lots of distance running).
Biggest change I noticed was I was consistently weighing in at about 172lbs before, now I'm consistently in the 164-166 bracket. I think it's more mental, but I feel like I'm leaner too.
I'm eating usually within an 11 hour window, sometimes a bit less. At first I found I was trying to stuff myself at mealtimes knowing I would not be eating after 6pm, but I don't feel like that anymore. In the evenings I usually have some carbonated water like a Perrier, that does me fine and now I find myself looking forward to it. As Patrick suggests in the video, I have 2 'cheat days' per week, i.e. weekends, but usually that just means I'm having a beer later in the evening.

Like other fitness habits, now that I'm in it, I like it and look forward to it; I don't mind that occasional bedtime hunger pang. What was originally seen as a 'sacrifice' is now seen as letting go of something that wasn't necessary. It's the easiest change I've made because the only thing different is the timing of what I eat/drink.

I'm with Uncle Cr33pin on this one: I'm on it for life.

[casa-nostra]

Yes it work to loos weight , but you gonna loose much muscle also

[Tail Gunner]

(04-17-2019 11:57 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

Yes it work to loos weight , but you gonna loose much muscle also

People need to educate themselves before making random mindless comments, especially if such comments are untethered from any scientific citation -- and especially if someone just posted information about a study that directly contradicts what they just espoused.

In post #85, I just cited a study showing that intermittent fasting increases HGH in men by up to 2000%. Why do you think that bodybuilders are obsessed with human growth hormone? Answer: because it builds muscle.

Quote:

Fasting, meaning abstaining from food altogether, turned out to be a crucial component that ultimately allowed her to control the inflammation in her body, and she's been doing cyclical fasting for nearly 25 years.

Again, one of the things fasting does is activate autophagy, your body's cleanout process that cleanses and detoxifies the cell and recycles the parts of the organelles that are no longer needed, so that your cells behave more youthfully. But autophagy cannot remain continuously activated all the time. You also need to allow the cells to rebuild and rejuvenate, which occurs during the refeeding phase.

In her search for experts on autophagy, Whittel came across the work of Dr. Richard Wang, a dermatologist and autophagy expert, Dr. Beth Levine, whose focus is on exercise, and William A. Dunn, Ph.D., at the University of Florida, who has been researching autophagy for 30 years, among others. She then put together a protocol to build up her own health.

" … David Sinclair at Harvard … was sharing with me a lot of the insights around how we can reduce the impact of these accelerated agers. When you look at all the ways that we age — the effects of the DNA impact, the inflammation, the telomere shortening, all of these things — autophagy and the way that autophagy slows down as we age due to these accelerated agers, is at the foundation of the way we age.

So being able to activate [autophagy], and then also deactivate it, is something that is fundamental to the aging process. 'Glow15' is that protocol. What was so fascinating, when I first did it on myself, was that my energy skyrocketed. I increased my lean muscle mass and reduced my body mass index by about 6 percent, so I went from 24 to 18 percent [body fat].

I wasn't doing anything other than activating my autophagy. My energy, my mental focus, my sleep improved, and I just felt so much better. And I looked younger, for sure, so everyone in my world said, 'Hey, what are you doing?' Then I started to try it on my friends and family. Then some of my friends at Jacksonville University, some of the researchers there, said, 'Why don't we create a lifestyle study?'

So, we took a group of 35 participants, and we put them through this lifestyle. Every single participant achieved results … in 15 days, and that's how the book got the name 'Glow15.' They lost weight, they reduced their fine lines and wrinkles … they got off medications. It was truly remarkable, the benefits. So that's how the protocol was developed."

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic...8421631%0A

[casa-nostra]

(04-17-2019 12:13 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(04-17-2019 11:57 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

Yes it work to loos weight , but you gonna loose much muscle also

People need to educate themselves before making random mindless comments, especially if such comments are untethered from any scientific citation -- and especially if someone just posted information about a study that directly contradicts what they just espoused.

In post #85, I just cited a study showing that intermittent fasting increases HGH in men by up to 2000%. Why do you think that bodybuilders are obsessed with human growth hormone? Answer: because it builds muscle.

Quote:

Fasting, meaning abstaining from food altogether, turned out to be a crucial component that ultimately allowed her to control the inflammation in her body, and she's been doing cyclical fasting for nearly 25 years.

Again, one of the things fasting does is activate autophagy, your body's cleanout process that cleanses and detoxifies the cell and recycles the parts of the organelles that are no longer needed, so that your cells behave more youthfully. But autophagy cannot remain continuously activated all the time. You also need to allow the cells to rebuild and rejuvenate, which occurs during the refeeding phase.

In her search for experts on autophagy, Whittel came across the work of Dr. Richard Wang, a dermatologist and autophagy expert, Dr. Beth Levine, whose focus is on exercise, and William A. Dunn, Ph.D., at the University of Florida, who has been researching autophagy for 30 years, among others. She then put together a protocol to build up her own health.

" … David Sinclair at Harvard … was sharing with me a lot of the insights around how we can reduce the impact of these accelerated agers. When you look at all the ways that we age — the effects of the DNA impact, the inflammation, the telomere shortening, all of these things — autophagy and the way that autophagy slows down as we age due to these accelerated agers, is at the foundation of the way we age.

So being able to activate [autophagy], and then also deactivate it, is something that is fundamental to the aging process. 'Glow15' is that protocol. What was so fascinating, when I first did it on myself, was that my energy skyrocketed. I increased my lean muscle mass and reduced my body mass index by about 6 percent, so I went from 24 to 18 percent [body fat].

I wasn't doing anything other than activating my autophagy. My energy, my mental focus, my sleep improved, and I just felt so much better. And I looked younger, for sure, so everyone in my world said, 'Hey, what are you doing?' Then I started to try it on my friends and family. Then some of my friends at Jacksonville University, some of the researchers there, said, 'Why don't we create a lifestyle study?'

So, we took a group of 35 participants, and we put them through this lifestyle. Every single participant achieved results … in 15 days, and that's how the book got the name 'Glow15.' They lost weight, they reduced their fine lines and wrinkles … they got off medications. It was truly remarkable, the benefits. So that's how the protocol was developed."

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic...8421631%0A

i dont need a study , you can pretty much find 1000 study about same stuff with differents results .

I am talking about myself :

When i started time restriced eating , i lost weight which is not bad , but i lost muscle too . many of my freinds noticed that too.

i will be interested how can a person increase muscle with calories deficit .

[Tail Gunner]

(04-17-2019 12:43 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

i will be interested how can a person increase muscle with calories deficit .

For some odd reason, you are hung up on calories. Muscle building is far more affected by testosterone levels and HGH levels (and many other factors), which intermittent fasting facilitates.

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You are like someone who says "planes cannot fly, because they weigh too much," without knowing anything about lift, propulsion, or aerodynamics. Forget calories -- and examine what the science says about the body's reaction to intermittent fasting. Those reactions tend to increase muscle gain, if you workout just prior to your next meal (after an intermittent fast). If you fast without working out then you might gain or lose muscle. The details matter.

[Cr33pin]

(04-17-2019 12:43 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

i will be interested how can a person increase muscle with calories deficit .

Who said you have to eat less when eating in a 10 hour window? You can eat whatever you want during that 10 hours so if you are losing muscle cause your're restricting your calories blame that on your diet not time restricted eating.

[casa-nostra]

(04-18-2019 09:19 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(04-17-2019 12:43 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

i will be interested how can a person increase muscle with calories deficit .

Who said you have to eat less when eating in a 10 hour window? You can eat whatever you want during that 10 hours so if you are losing muscle cause your're restricting your calories blame that on your diet not time restricted eating.

You usually eat less when you fast..

ALSO if you eat big quantity of proteins in the same meal , good part will go to WC.

[casa-nostra]

another question , do a coffee with little milk count as cutting of the intermittent fasting process ? Because coffe is empty calories , and quantity of milk is not even 10-20 calories. and still feel empty stomach and hungry

[Tail Gunner]

(04-18-2019 09:32 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

another question , do a coffee with little milk count as cutting of the intermittent fasting process ? Because coffe is empty calories , and quantity of milk is not even 10-20 calories. and still feel empty stomach and hungry

All the questions that you ask have been covered in the fasting thread:

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A true fast means water-only, but many people do juice-only "fasts" or other restrictive diets that are not true fasts. So, a true intermittent fast means water-only, but people experiment with other things. If you want the benefit of high HGH or testosterone levels, it is best to stay with water-only because those are the facts behind the studies -- and it is proven to work.

[roberto]

(06-04-2018 02:59 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I’m doing an experiment eating only one meal a day. So far not too bad but I fell a bit tired at times and my hands get cold.

I'm gonna experiment with this next... I've cut it down to two meals in the afternoon and the only thing I drink in the morning is a cup of coffee. It was tough cutting out one of the three meals for like 4 or 5 days, now I dont really miss that third meal at all.  Its crazy how my body adjust to not being as hungry as I was when I was eating all the time.  I think its pretty clear I (an probably 90% of people) have been over eating pretty much all my life...

Yeah, I find that if I sit down and eat... I'm hungry again a few hours later. Even on food with hardly any carbs. It's a habit, not a need.

If I start the day fasted, don't eat, and most importantly, keep busy- then I can last till the evening meal without much discomfort. I need to re-comp- I'm almost back to my heaviest weight at 85kg 182cm. That's 10kg of fat I gotta shift.

Anyone else cutting currently?