Quote: (12-27-2017 01:34 AM)eradicator Wrote:
Eh I guess it could be done if they had maxed out the things they can control, wealth(f/u money) looks(training in the gym for a few years 4 days a week), status( maybe if they were running a modeling agency or the equivalent)
Even an IRT could bang 8s if they did all of this. But if they are a fresh off the boat IRT with bad English and only approaching the 8s and 9s and then calling in about why are they having such little success, uhhh well irhey have a very long road ahead of them
Meh, I'm not really surprised though. The dating scene is complex in the US and vastly different from India. Understand that in India, being Indian isn't a negative, having a college degree is a plus, and having an engineering degree even more so. Of course, all these things mean absolutely nothing in the US and possibly even lower your value.
A lot of these guys are probably high up in their communities. Especially the ones that come from smaller towns, where they're the only guys having attended a big city university. Or perhaps they're the ones that attended IITs (Indian Institute of Technology).
Some of you guys may not know this, but if you get accepted into an IIT your picture is published in the newspaper, and often times your face is even put on billboards in your local area. You're basically a local celebrity...for having gotten acceptance in what is India's equivalent of MIT.
It skews your viewpoint on what your SMV will be in the US. So I'm not all that surprised that when Indian guys (straight from India) come to the US, they'd try to game the hottest girls. Especially the ones who've been in the US for only a few years will take a while to learn what the US is like, what their SMV really is and how they can improve it.
Nobody's ever told them the following:
* Being Indian doesn't help you in the US, and is often a negative (they've most likely never realized there is a hierarchy of races). It especially doesn't help that topics about race and the SMP are never discussed publically. It's a PC topic.
* Accent is a negative in the US. Imagine moving to the FSU, Latin America or SEA and finding out your American accent is unattractive and barely comprehensible in the native language.
* Your IT job or engineering degree means shit. Like modern day society is ever going to admit that, they need men to keep working.
* Being skinny fat is unattractive. India doesn't focus much on physical exercise, they prefer their kids to instead excel intellectually. From an arranged marriage point of view, it works tremendously well to put academic/professional success over physical aesthetics. But times be changing, and even in India it's slowly changing.
*.etc.etc.etc.
The reality is that if an American guy doesn't hit on 8s and 9s, it's because he's probably subconsciously aware that she's out of his league. And that comes from having grown up in America and having context of who is and who isn't a high-value man.
A lot of these Indians guys straight from India don't have the same background to contextualize their interactions with. When they hit on 8s and it fails, it literally dumbfounds them. As it should. It'd be weird if these guys weren't dumbfounded.
Imagine going to a foreign country and everything that works in the US (being fit, being white, dressing well, having game, your American accent, your badboy vibe, whatever) has the opposite effect. You'd be dumbfounded too why suddenly you can't get laid in this foreign country.
FWIW, I have significantly better experience gaming in India than in the US (even though I'm not a FOB). Being Indian, and on the shorter side doesn't hurt me at all, having an engineering degree and that too from top universities in the US are seen as a plus. So what works against me in the US has either a positive or neutral effect in India. As a result, just recently, my easiest bang came in India. And had logistics being better, I could've fucked 2-3 more girls the same weekend:
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India is supposed to be one of the hardest countries to game in because of the conservative attitudes all around, yet I found it significantly easier than gaming in the US. So I can see why the guys who are coming from India to the US are confused.