[puckerman]

I worked as a hotel receptionist for about three years. We had a bunch of Red Cross relief workers stay with us. They made no effort to negotiate cheaper rates. They also had people staying in their own rooms. I saw just how wasteful they could be.

Some of them are good. I used to work for Big Brothers Big Sisters. That was basically a principled organization, which spent a lot of money on programs. I don't think anyone there was getting rich either.

There are good ones out there. It just depends on how they operate and who is in charge. Make sure you look into the organization before you give them anything.

[Mercenary]

Valid points being made here throughout this thread, but just want to remind everyone that my main problem with the endless charities and NGOs is not so much the small corruption within them, or how much of the cash actually goes to the cause.

My 1st main issue with them is the relentless propaganda the general public is subjected to everyday from morning until evening from these fuckers with their terrorist style brainwashing techniques. It has become impossible to avoid seeing or hearing from them each day, even if you never leave the house. They are on TV, on the webpages you visit, on your phone, in your post, and these evil indoctrinators will call you regularly on your phone or knock on your door.

My 2nd main issue is how big companies, the super rich, politicians and the elites use these organisations to "legally" launder their money without paying taxes, while guilt tripping the general public at every turn to give away their hard earned salary so that you "feel better" about yourself, that you are "helping a cause" that will never get resolved anyway, cause if it were that would put them out of business.

Cause, let's not kid ourselves, the charity and NGO world is a BUSINESS.
Calling it anything else is just for the starry eyed idealists.


3rd, and finally, these organisations are actually being used to infiltrate and subvert foreign countries and their populations. Whether it's Bill Gates or Unicef forcing kids worldwide to get dubious and dangerous vaccines, Amnesty international supporting suspicious leftist anti government agitators and ring leaders, or water charities adding Fluoride to drinking water or secretly lobbying foreign governments to ban collecting rainwater...they are present in hundreds of countries causing all kinds of mischief under the guise of false humanitarism. The more you look at their practices, the more you see how they push pro feminist, pro gay, pro degenerate, pro climate change, leftist agendas everywhere they go. All the stuff we know is bullshit.

Even in those places where their intentions might be truly benign & innocent, they are often making the local people dependent on them for basic supplies and services rather than teaching those people new self survival skills.

[Mercenary]

Another thing that gets me angry is how the charities and NGOs have elevated the status of the starving, the poor, the weak, the terminally ill, and the disabled into global superstars.

So now, instead of society celebrating the physically strong & healthy, the successful, and the most determined people as role models....the sick, the unhealthy, the weak, the failures, and disabled are the only people who are qualified to be called courageous or strong.

Thanks to these charities and NGOs, we have gone from erecting statues of alpha male builders and conquerors and seeing them as visionary nation builders, to worshipping the weakest, the most unsuccessful, and the most genetically worse off parts of humanity, as the only heroes.

I don't have anything against people who are poor, hungry, ill, or born with a disability, (and I thinking helping them is a worthy cause if done correctly), but to elevate and worship these types as role models of humanity is downright destructive to a person's (and a nations's) self esteem and vision for the future.

[Kona]

^^^ Great post.
A group that seriously gets painted as downtrodden, mentally ill, and unable to care for themselves in the USA is veterans.

There are so many bogus charitable organizations that claim to be all about helping vets. Really they are just giving themselves jobs.

Veterans are some of the most motivated and successful people on the country. Donald Trump is guilty of this.

The idea that "we need to take care of our veterans" is so politicized that it makes all look bad.

Aloha!

[blck]

(01-06-2018 06:27 PM)Repo Wrote:  

That infograph is super misleading and I can trust that whoever made it doesn't know what their talking about, even if some of these charities are borderline scams.

Trying to tie President pay to how legit a charity is doesn't make sense. Good luck trying to find someone who can competently run a huge organization with a 100k salary or whatever arbitrary amount that someone who doesn't know what their talking about thinks the president of a nonprofit should make.

Yes, some are scams, no not all are.

Yes that's right, this infograph is destined for the mass and that's how you touch those who don't understand how things works: by simplifying to the extreme.

I don't know about the status of those NGO in the US but in France you give to those entities because they're not supposed to make profits (the status is usually "non profit organization"), the president salary should be good if the money coming in, from donation, is, I agree with that, but not as good as a company that make huge profit.

Making assumptions about NGO being scams or not is not on point:
I rather rate them on "How much they're a scam" on a scale from 5 to 10, 5 being the lowest as in each you'll find cooked books, fictitious employees and disappearing money or suspiciously huge amount invested in "advertising".

[Repo]

(01-07-2018 06:24 AM)blck Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 06:27 PM)Repo Wrote:  

That infograph is super misleading and I can trust that whoever made it doesn't know what their talking about, even if some of these charities are borderline scams.

Trying to tie President pay to how legit a charity is doesn't make sense. Good luck trying to find someone who can competently run a huge organization with a 100k salary or whatever arbitrary amount that someone who doesn't know what their talking about thinks the president of a nonprofit should make.

Yes, some are scams, no not all are.

Yes that's right, this infograph is destined for the mass and that's how you touch those who don't understand how things works: by simplifying to the extreme.

I don't know about the status of those NGO in the US but in France you give to those entities because they're not supposed to make profits (the status is usually "non profit organization"), the president salary should be good if the money coming in, from donation, is, I agree with that, but not as good as a company that make huge profit.

Making assumptions about NGO being scams or not is not on point:
I rather rate them on "How much they're a scam" on a scale from 5 to 10, 5 being the lowest as in each you'll find cooked books, fictitious employees and disappearing money or suspiciously huge amount invested in "advertising".

"The US is not a successful country because it is so broke it can only afford to pay the President $400k a year"

If you "simplify" with faulty logic and bad reasoning anyone can make anything sound bad, but you still come across as someone who doesn't know what their talking about to informed people (referring to the graphic, not you).

The attitude that it's ok to spam out misleading infograms or articles "simplified" for the masses is how fake news happens. CNN isn't lying to you, their just simplifying things to the extremes so more people will agree with their worldview.

[americanpituco]

If you actually feel bad about not donating, or spend time wondering if you should & need to rationalize why you don't....you're probably not dark triad.

[Easy_C]

(01-07-2018 09:33 PM)americanpituco Wrote:  

If you actually feel bad about not donating, or spend time wondering if you should & need to rationalize why you don't....you're probably not dark triad.

"Dark Triad" is overrated, and most of those who think they are keyboard poseurs of the type who would ride with Iron Order.

[godfather dust]

If you announce to the world you are dark triad you are not. You don't announce to people "I will attempt to manipulate, guilt trip and take advantage of you."

It would be like announcing your hand in a high stakes poker game. It's also the same as saying "don't trust me I'm a piece of shit and everything I say should be taken with of salt."

[Belgrano]

Open Borders NGO Staff ‘Raped Children’ While Working Abroad

Quote:

Poverty-stricken children in third world countries were gang-raped and paid for sex by staff working for foreign aid NGO, MPs have been told.

The International Development Committee heard how children revealed a decade ago that they were abused by men at peacekeeping camps while their families reported being powerless to act.

Corinna Csáky, a child development consultant who investigated claims of child abuse carried out by humanitarian staff and peacekeepers in 2008 for Save the Children, said both local and international aid workers were involved in the sexual exploitation of children.

MPs investigating exploitation in the charity sector were told how the research found perpetrators preyed on the most vulnerable, with victims often existing “outside the system” — not on any register for schooling, humanitarian aid nor other services.

“These children are often alone. They are separated from their families. They are living in extreme poverty. Without the protection and support from families, many are using transaction sex just to survive,” Csáky said.

Sharing testimony from the research, for which she interviewed victims from Haiti, South Sudan and the Ivory Coast, she reported a father lamenting that aid workers who abused children “don’t even hide what they are doing”.

MPs heard from the report, entitled ‘No One To Turn To’, how a homeless girl in Haiti was taken “to a man who works for an NGO” by a “group of people who decided to make money off of her”.

“He gave her one American dollar and the little girl was happy to see the money,” according to a young whistleblower. “It was two in the morning. The man took her and raped her. In the morning the little girl could not walk.”

Testimony given at the committee also included evidence from a 14 year-old boy who had described how he and his peers went to work at the peacekeeping camp in order to “earn money to help support our families”.

“Sometimes they ask us to find girls. Sometimes they ask us to find girls, especially our age. Often between eight and 10 men will share two or three girls. They also use their mobile phones to film the girls,” the boy disclosed.

A young girl in Haiti had stated that “the people who are raping us and the people in the office are the same people”, Ms Csáky said, telling the committee that the majority of abuse goes unreported because victims are “scared of retaliation”.

Save the Children, which was last year accused of working with criminal gangs smuggling migrants into Europe, has been under serious scrutiny amidst allegations that the pro-open borders NGO failed to properly investigate claims of sexual misconduct by staff including former chief executive Justin Forsyth and former policy director Brendan Cox — widow of the late Jo Cox.

Having withdrawn from government funding bids as a result of the controversy, the organisation has announced that it expects income this year to plummet by more than £67 million.

Employees of "Save the Children" gang-raping children in third world countries?
Can't make this shit up.

[pirate]

I was once the manager of a small transport company deep in the jungle of the Congo. I had to go talk to our fuel supllier and clearing agents in a small town across the border in Uganda.

There was an expenive hotel in the town, filled with UN and NGO types.

I would estimate each person there was costing their benefactors about $200 a day in whiskies, dinner and stay. Thats where your $5 donation goes.

These are the same parasitic scum that calls our business "colonialist exploiters".We employed over 60 people and supported local suppliers.

[ivansirko]

https://www.povertyinc.org/

I happened to watch the documentary. Although it doesn't go into detail as in the above NGO's designed to help because its fashionable really harm the third world.

[beta_plus]

I only donate my money to one thing:






Well, I also do give to ALS. I had a colleague that got it. He want from perfectly healthy guy in his early 50s to being effectively a quadriplegic unable to speak in 2 years. They have a decent rating for overhead spending.

[Avadhuta]

John D. Rockefeller recommended tithing, and for all you bible freaks... well, it's definitely in the good book.

The other day a girl came to my car whilst I was stopped at a traffic light. She had some shabby pamphlets, a beat-up collection box and wanted a euro for abandoned babies in the city. I couldn't say no.

Having a heart is what keeps me sane in this crazy world.

[PUA_Rachacha]

Has anybody mentioned colleges yet? My liberal arts undergrad college hounds me non-stop for donations even though its endowment exceeds a $1 billion and it's the largest landowner of a U.S. state (on which it is exempt from paying real-estate taxes since it's a college). I've noticed the calls for money have increased over the last few years, which has turned me sour towards my alma mater (I actually used to donate my time once in a while for recruiting).

I may begin donating again once my kids get close to college age in case they want to go legacy, but frankly, I'm so turned off by my undergrad college, that I really don't care if my kid(s) go there anymore.

[MrLemon]

Glad I just saw this threat. I have something to say.

I spent a good amount of time working with environmental groups many years back, and also some political groups.

The THEFT and corruptions was nonstop and mind-boggling. I mean, the people running those groups were stealing donation money like crazy. They were buying coke and whores, gambling. I am not making this up, even the cynical bastard I am, I had some kind of a warm spot in my heart, thinking these groups were fundamentally "good" with little pockets of corruption. What I found on close association was, they were utterly, unbelievably corrupt. I mean...the BIGGEST groups, the big names.

When you donate a 20 dollar bill to some college kid going door to door for Greenwhatever, you figure maybe 50% of it get scammed and 50% gets sent to the actual charity, right? WRONG. That 20 dollar bill is stolen, completely, by the guy in charge of that district. The college kid is clueless...he's an idiot. But the guy running that local group is absolutely skimming all the 10s and 20s, maybe 75% of the money collected. He's sending it to a offshore account or just blowing it on drugs immediately.

Honest players in the groups eventually have to get out...they are often paid off with a rich golden parachute, to ensure their silence. Physical threats? Every day.

This is the biggest untold story in the US today.

[LowerCaseG]

The Red Cross sells the blood you donate.

[Syberpunk]

(07-16-2018 12:08 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

Glad I just saw this threat. I have something to say.

I spent a good amount of time working with environmental groups many years back, and also some political groups.

The THEFT and corruptions was nonstop and mind-boggling. I mean, the people running those groups were stealing donation money like crazy. They were buying coke and whores, gambling. I am not making this up, even the cynical bastard I am, I had some kind of a warm spot in my heart, thinking these groups were fundamentally "good" with little pockets of corruption. What I found on close association was, they were utterly, unbelievably corrupt. I mean...the BIGGEST groups, the big names.

When you donate a 20 dollar bill to some college kid going door to door for Greenwhatever, you figure maybe 50% of it get scammed and 50% gets sent to the actual charity, right? WRONG. That 20 dollar bill is stolen, completely, by the guy in charge of that district. The college kid is clueless...he's an idiot. But the guy running that local group is absolutely skimming all the 10s and 20s, maybe 75% of the money collected. He's sending it to a offshore account or just blowing it on drugs immediately.

Honest players in the groups eventually have to get out...they are often paid off with a rich golden parachute, to ensure their silence. Physical threats? Every day.

This is the biggest untold story in the US today.

On a related tangent...

Its not the money that's the problem (though it is in part), its the people that are attracted to this "calling".

I've a close younger family member working in the youth worker scene (he deals with children who are completely abandoned and left destitute and have serious mental problems) and he think that his job makes him a good person, despite being an absolute bastard in private and for anyone who spends enough time with him. You look into his eyes and its like he is looking through you are vessel to be used, almost demonic, eerie feeling you get off him. You could give the best rearing in the world and still manage to turn out a cunt like this.

He wouldn't spend a second longer on you that wouldn't in some way benefit himself, the moment he stops benefiting......gone. As in my physical illness.

I read for years about virtue signaling on other forums and society in general and then when I saw for the 1st for real played out like I suspected, it was word for word how people describe it.

I honestly believe the job is just a cover to fill the holes in himself that he can't face with any introspection, otherwise his mind would becomes discombobulated and fall apart, and politics/NGO just exacebrated what ever mental issues were already there.

Paid relatives fancy holidays to make up for things he said and did, his attitude towards and then never spoke to them again. As if the money/experience is what they wanted, ney needed.

Basically "here's fuck off money".

You have a mental case trying to help the lowest rung of society, maybe because it makes him feel saner telling people what to do, who are worse off then him? So he can say someone is always worse than him and take no responsibility to be a semi decent person. Keep the limelight off himself and onto others.

Its too much cognitive dissonance for me and others.
And there are plenty more like him, using the job as cover, broken souls dressing themselves with certified good deeds.

He's not doing it for free interestingly enough.

[MrLemon]

(07-17-2018 10:00 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 12:08 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

Glad I just saw this threat. I have something to say.

I spent a good amount of time working with environmental groups many years back, and also some political groups.

The THEFT and corruptions was nonstop and mind-boggling. I mean, the people running those groups were stealing donation money like crazy. They were buying coke and whores, gambling. I am not making this up, even the cynical bastard I am, I had some kind of a warm spot in my heart, thinking these groups were fundamentally "good" with little pockets of corruption. What I found on close association was, they were utterly, unbelievably corrupt. I mean...the BIGGEST groups, the big names.

When you donate a 20 dollar bill to some college kid going door to door for Greenwhatever, you figure maybe 50% of it get scammed and 50% gets sent to the actual charity, right? WRONG. That 20 dollar bill is stolen, completely, by the guy in charge of that district. The college kid is clueless...he's an idiot. But the guy running that local group is absolutely skimming all the 10s and 20s, maybe 75% of the money collected. He's sending it to a offshore account or just blowing it on drugs immediately.

Honest players in the groups eventually have to get out...they are often paid off with a rich golden parachute, to ensure their silence. Physical threats? Every day.

This is the biggest untold story in the US today.

On a related tangent...

Its not the money that's the problem (though it is in part), its the people that are attracted to this "calling".

I've a close younger family member working in the youth worker scene (he deals with children who are completely abandoned and left destitute and have serious mental problems) and he think that his job makes him a good person, despite being an absolute bastard in private and for anyone who spends enough time with him. You look into his eyes and its like he is looking through you are vessel to be used, almost demonic, eerie feeling you get off him. You could give the best rearing in the world and still manage to turn out a cunt like this.

He wouldn't spend a second longer on you that wouldn't in some way benefit himself, the moment he stops benefiting......gone. As in my physical illness.

I read for years about virtue signaling on other forums and society in general and then when I saw for the 1st for real played out like I suspected, it was word for word how people describe it.

I honestly believe the job is just a cover to fill the holes in himself that he can't face with any introspection, otherwise his mind would becomes discombobulated and fall apart, and politics/NGO just exacebrated what ever mental issues were already there.

Paid relatives fancy holidays to make up for things he said and did, his attitude towards and then never spoke to them again. As if the money/experience is what they wanted, ney needed.

Basically "here's fuck off money".

You have a mental case trying to help the lowest rung of society, maybe because it makes him feel saner telling people what to do, who are worse off then him? So he can say someone is always worse than him and take no responsibility to be a semi decent person. Keep the limelight off himself and onto others.

Its too much cognitive dissonance for me and others.
And there are plenty more like him, using the job as cover, broken souls dressing themselves with certified good deeds.

He's not doing it for free interestingly enough.

He might be a mental case.

Or he's just a drug addict/criminal who is good at lying. He's working with disadvantaged youth? What are the odds he's pressuring the teen girls/boys into sex?

I met a gal many years ago (yet another story) who was a teen runaway. Worked as a prostitute for a while, finally living in a tiny apartment with 4 other girls and working as a waitress. Heartbreaking to hear her story. When I said "why didn't you live in a homeless teen shelter" she just got this startled look, looked at me like I was the biggest fucking idiot on the planet, and started laughing. "Fuck. You people.". I instantly got her message. The teen shelter was a cesspool of more abuse for girls. All the pimps and drug dealers and liars on the planet gravitate there to get their rocks off. Or the crazy white rich bitches who think they are going to save the world and end up just hating on the teens.

[DarkTriad]

(01-07-2018 09:46 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:33 PM)americanpituco Wrote:  

If you actually feel bad about not donating, or spend time wondering if you should & need to rationalize why you don't....you're probably not dark triad.

"Dark Triad" is overrated, and most of those who think they are keyboard poseurs of the type who would ride with Iron Order.

Hey! I think I've posted some pretty good content over the years!

[kingjuice]

(07-15-2018 05:31 PM)Avadhuta Wrote:  

John D. Rockefeller recommended tithing, and for all you bible freaks... well, it's definitely in the good book.

The other day a girl came to my car whilst I was stopped at a traffic light. She had some shabby pamphlets, a beat-up collection box and wanted a euro for abandoned babies in the city. I couldn't say no.

Having a heart is what keeps me sane in this crazy world.

Here, have a read:
https://medium.com/incerto/pedophrasty-b...4bd70a29e8

[Caduceus]

The secret role of NGOs and charities in funding and coordinating the migrant invasions of the USA and Europe (as well as helping stimulate other refugee crisis worldwide) needs to be fully exposed to the world.

[BBinger]

(01-07-2018 01:01 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

My 1st main issue with them is the relentless propaganda the general public is subjected to everyday from morning until evening from these fuckers with their terrorist style brainwashing techniques. It has become impossible to avoid seeing or hearing from them each day, even if you never leave the house. They are on TV, on the webpages you visit, on your phone, in your post, and these evil indoctrinators will call you regularly on your phone or knock on your door.

They do that shit here. Every weekend and some weekdays there are big crews of People canvasing for UNICEF outside Montevideo Shopping and the WTC Montevideo trying to collect credit card information for recurring donations "Para ayudar niños en paises mas pobres", never mind that Uruguay is rather poor itself. A block and a half north of where they solicit poverty starts and by the time you've walked a kilometer north the poverty is intense... In a country where ~100 pesos (3 USD) buys a loaf of white bread, and a substantial portion of the population mines dumpsters for anything that might have some residual value.

Back in more naive days I'd buy candy bars from the Haiti earthquake people when I was in grad school, but it is clear the soy the world "charity" extortion racket has no limits to its depravity. Every week since I moved to Uruguay I have seen these Unicef fucks out and about guilting the Uruguayos into thinking there's kids poorer than their country's own that need to be their priority.

I doubt UNICEF here collects enough here to make up for the matching tshirts and other silk screened swag.

I grew up relatively poor by rural midwestern US standards. I benefited from the pre-Gay boy scouts and I saw poorer classmates and their families benefit from the volunteer food pantry a bunch of the local churches put together. I'm better off than I was then and many of the other kids are too. Charity can work when no one's more than an introduction from someone they already know away from anyone else.

This bullshit where professional activists use guilt trips to give themselves a comfortable salary while no one on either side of the giving/recieving cyle can verify anything, is evil. Especially when it leaches goodwill and effort that could have been applied locally. But... it is hard for Pantsuit Parasites to siphon off a cushy living when charity happens at the level where the donors can view its effectiveness or lack thereof.

[DarkTriad]

If you're getting hit up by your co-workers constantly, have some kind of "Cause" yourself and start asking for donations every time they ask for one from you. They'll stop bothering you quick.

[CynicalContrarian]

I recall my father decided to do the nice thing & sponsor a kid via one of the big org.s like Oxfam.

As per the setup, my father started to receive notices of how great it is that he is supporting a kid - named "Mbeki".
Plenty of notices about the ever improving progress of the kid thanks to my fathers donations (money).
This goes on for the better part of 8 to 10 months.
Then without warning or any official notice. Suddenly my father starts receiving notice of my great it is that his donations (money) are helping "Mtwabo" improve his lot.

Where did "Mbeki" go my father wonders?
No word from Oxfam nor any acknowledgement of the shift in kids.
Sure it is Africa...
Mbeki could have been hacked by machete at any given moment. Yet no word from Oxfam.
At that point my father decided to end his sponsorship.