[Bluto]

(12-09-2017 03:35 PM)Swooper Wrote:  

The amount of posts putting her on a pedestal is insane. I'm having a hard time believing this is RVF.

(12-09-2017 04:27 PM)fuckoff Wrote:  

Some of you guys need to take your skirts off with all this emotional bullshit over a dirty fucking hoe!

[Soundbyte]

The reactions of people will depend on how 'close' they were to the dead woman. Fuckoff, for example, probably does not know her, so to him she is nobody. If he believed that porn is an evil or simply not good for you, then it would make sense that he wouldn't see why a lot of guys are giving her a second thought.

Using Linux's story as an example- and no offense intended- If I heard about the same guy that died in a whore house, I wouldn't think too much about it. Don't know him besides his story. But Linux knows the person behind the story, so the death has weight behind it. Meaning.

A lot of guys see her childhood and feel sorry for her. Some guys saw her naked and also feel sorry for her. Some guys are hearing about her for the first time, and don't have any feeling towards her.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-09-2017 04:27 PM)fuckoff Wrote:  

Some of you guys need to take your skirts off with all this emotional bullshit over a dirty fucking hoe!

Sorry. I'm having trouble hearing you. Could you turn up your reps, please?

[Conscious Pirate]

Yeah, I'm sure fuckoff is a really nice guy with no anger issues at all.

It takes one to know one, is all I'm saying

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-09-2017 06:35 PM)Soundbyte Wrote:  

The reactions of people will depend on how 'close' they were to the dead woman. Fuckoff, for example, probably does not know her, so to him she is nobody. If he believed that porn is an evil or simply not good for you, then it would make sense that he wouldn't see why a lot of guys are giving her a second thought.

Using Linux's story as an example- and no offense intended- If I heard about the same guy that died in a whore house, I wouldn't think too much about it. Don't know him besides his story. But Linux knows the person behind the story, so the death has weight behind it. Meaning.

A lot of guys see her childhood and feel sorry for her. Some guys saw her naked and also feel sorry for her. Some guys are hearing about her for the first time, and don't have any feeling towards her.

At the stage many of us are at, there's going to be guys seeing the correlation between declining interest in their own pump'n'dump lifestyles and a-grade elves like Ames suffering short, degrading lives when they could have been the centrepiece in a happy household being dicked down every night and producing gorgeous, happy kids for a man who had nothing but her best interests at heart.

In a sense this is like seeing a fantastic piece of art being used as kindling to start an oil-drum fire so that a few bums can keep warm for the night, and I think the manosphere is starting to recognise that if women don't have the mental wiring for genuine self-determination then it falls to decent men to slap a collar on them and teach them how to sit.

I don't like seeing girls like Ames die young and dirty because they had a more important role in this world that the modern era of perversion yanked from under them. Even in degenerate pornos you can still tell which girls are slowly having their souls syphoned for cash and which girls never had a soul in the first place.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

(12-09-2017 04:44 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 04:27 PM)fuckoff Wrote:  

Some of you guys need to take your skirts off with all this emotional bullshit over a dirty fucking hoe!

You're so alpha. We should change your label to "International Playa."

The quickest way to see how someone will speak of you when you're dead is watch how they speak of others.

Just the other day, we had a friend die in a whore house, drunk, stoned on sleeping pills, and alone. We still gathered around over a small glass table on a balcony and gave him a toast with a few cheap beers and talked about how hard he worked and how he was a good friend.

And that's the way it should be.

I don't see the connection.

I disagree with fuckoff's irreverent attitude for the dead and this forum but fail to see the connection between the passing of a friend and the public passing of a porn star.

Guys, the fight isn't the issue here...oh wait, I mean the death of a girl isn't the issue here, it's her legacy and public opinion toward a member of the sex trade.

I don't think anyone's trying to actually be flippant about an early death (though maybe I kind of was just now). Rather, some of us are criticizing the fanfare she's receiving on the way to the crematorium.

[MMX2010]

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Rather, some of us are criticizing the fanfare she's receiving on the way to the crematorium.

Why would anyone do this?

[realologist]

Death is something that shouldn't be taken lightly and never should be celebrated. Suicide is an unfortunate incident because you know they were so mentally ill that they saw death as the only way out.

Although none of us knew her it doesn't matter. Fuckoff showed a total lack of any respect for a body that was still warm. It's not like he made a bad joke and humor to help cut some of the tension when talking about something like this. He was just being a dick for the sake of being a dick.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

(12-09-2017 07:07 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

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Rather, some of us are criticizing the fanfare she's receiving on the way to the crematorium.

Why would anyone do this?

Why would I criticize idolizing a porn star's legacy?

Porn is a destructive business for a lot of guys out there who spend time and money away from more meaningful pursuits. I'm not in the "enjoy the decline" camp no matter if there's no stopping it.

I think social behavior and politics lie downstream of culture and a culture that exalts porn isn't going to have great social behavior or politics or a great future.

I could be wrong but that's what I think.

[MMX2010]

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Porn is a destructive business for a lot of guys out there who spend time and money away from more meaningful pursuits.

There are multiple threads detailing the harmfulness of porn. They're probably more focused than this thread, which is focused on the death of August Ames and the degree to which fag-bullying contributed to her suicide.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

Maybe I'm a little off the direction this thread is hoping for but I stand by my analysis.

[Highpool]

(12-09-2017 06:58 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 06:35 PM)Soundbyte Wrote:  

The reactions of people will depend on how 'close' they were to the dead woman. Fuckoff, for example, probably does not know her, so to him she is nobody. If he believed that porn is an evil or simply not good for you, then it would make sense that he wouldn't see why a lot of guys are giving her a second thought.

Using Linux's story as an example- and no offense intended- If I heard about the same guy that died in a whore house, I wouldn't think too much about it. Don't know him besides his story. But Linux knows the person behind the story, so the death has weight behind it. Meaning.

A lot of guys see her childhood and feel sorry for her. Some guys saw her naked and also feel sorry for her. Some guys are hearing about her for the first time, and don't have any feeling towards her.

At the stage many of us are at, there's going to be guys seeing the correlation between declining interest in their own pump'n'dump lifestyles and a-grade elves like Ames suffering short, degrading lives when they could have been the centrepiece in a happy household being dicked down every night and producing gorgeous, happy kids for a man who had nothing but her best interests at heart.

In a sense this is like seeing a fantastic piece of art being used as kindling to start an oil-drum fire so that a few bums can keep warm for the night, and I think the manosphere is starting to recognise that if women don't have the mental wiring for genuine self-determination then it falls to decent men to slap a collar on them and teach them how to sit.

I don't like seeing girls like Ames die young and dirty because they had a more important role in this world that the modern era of perversion yanked from under them. Even in degenerate pornos you can still tell which girls are slowly having their souls syphoned for cash and which girls never had a soul in the first place.

Being able to get easy sex with beautiful women is a strong motivator for a lot of men, even if a handful of them "outgrow" it.

Some women are mentally wired to start a family, others are repulsed by kids or completely jaded on the concept of a strong family unit. For a beautiful woman who was treated terribly by her family, there's a very good chance that her "life calling" is to provide a rush of pleasure to as many stressed, horny young men as possible, not to be a mother.

Real talk, a jolly slut with a non-bitchy personality and a notch count of 300 has a much greater positive impact on society than a mentally checked out mother of 4 who married early because her conservative peers told her to, against her instincts. Whatever happens, I hope the manosphere never loses sight of that.

[Mercenary]

(12-09-2017 08:09 PM)Highpool Wrote:  

Real talk, a jolly slut with a non-bitchy personality and a notch count of 300 has a much greater positive impact on society than a mentally checked out mother of 4 who married early because her conservative peers told her to, against her instincts. Whatever happens, I hope the manosphere never loses sight of that.

[Duke Castile]

I don't watch porn (except my own videos) so I havent seen her stuff.

I just see a good looking girl that got caught up in a shitty industry.

She had potential, and she was driven to take her own life by disgusting and hateful people like this fuckoff character.

I think that is what bothers me about it.

I'm certainly not "idolizing" her legacy, I'm lamenting a young, pretty, girl's unnecessary and untimely death.

Everytime there is a highly publicized death, some people come out of the woodwork to act tough and cavalier, and dismiss them with a wave of their hand.

It really is a loser mentality because it's these same people that want to see others fail instead of raising themselves up. They are almost happy to see the destruction of someone else.

If that's not bad enough, they make fun or criticize the folks who take pause and consider how tragic it all is.

Atlanta Man is right, our daughters and young men need strong male figures who love them and guide them, and support them or they will be preyed upon by these awful fucking degenerates (that bug chasing video is one of the most disturbing things I've been made aware of).

Leonard is also right, I am at a stage where I want more than another pump n dump, and I want a hot elf to be in my home.

Anyway, I think I need a break from the forum or at least some of these threads.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-09-2017 08:09 PM)Highpool Wrote:  

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Being able to get easy sex with beautiful women is a strong motivator for a lot of men, even if a handful of them "outgrow" it.

Some women are mentally wired to start a family, others are repulsed by kids or completely jaded on the concept of a strong family unit. For a beautiful woman who was treated terribly by her family, there's a very good chance that her "life calling" is to provide a rush of pleasure to as many stressed, horny young men as possible, not to be a mother.

Real talk, a jolly slut with a non-bitchy personality and a notch count of 300 has a much greater positive impact on society than a mentally checked out mother of 4 who married early because her conservative peers told her to, against her instincts. Whatever happens, I hope the manosphere never loses sight of that.

Actually our entire civilisation is built on that so-called "handful of men" and the more that pool of men diminishes the further our civilisation falls.

I'm not going to get sanctimonious about men "enjoying the decline" but it's a decline for a reason. Reducing our sexuality to the status of dumb animals rutting and bouncing to the next cock/ass is dragging us back to the jungle, so please try not to take it personally when I tell you that this...

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Real talk, a jolly slut with a non-bitchy personality and a notch count of 300 has a much greater positive impact on society than a mentally checked out mother of 4 who married early because her conservative peers told her to, against her instincts. Whatever happens, I hope the manosphere never loses sight of that.

...is a complete load of bullshit that in a sane society would have you expelled at the gates where civilisation ends and barbarism begins.

[Suits]

If I wanted to summarize this thread into one image....

[Samseau]

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Real talk, a jolly slut with a non-bitchy personality and a notch count of 300 has a much greater positive impact on society than a mentally checked out mother of 4 who married early because her conservative peers told her to, against her instincts. Whatever happens, I hope the manosphere never loses sight of that.

Will you be the happy father to spend two decades raising a girl so she can fuck 300 men for the good of society? If you refuse this task then you are a hypocrite.

Porn stars are just fancy words for whores. And whores produce no fruit. Whoring is a dead end, in all ways, spiritually, physically, culturally, and mentally. The celebration of whoring in our dying society is but a microcosm of the massive wholesale destruction upon our civilization.

For every whore you see, there are another several thousand women destroyed by the career-whoring industry, even more destroyed by the divorce-rape industry, and even more destroyed by the "casual-sex" (adulterating women before they get married) culture. There is a reason I wrote the average beta has about a 1 in 2500 chance of finding a girl he can have a good marriage with (no divorce, produces children, lasting happiness between the spouses) in the LTR thread. People have a hard time believing this is true, but it is true, and the results lie before us in so many ways, mainly in our negative birth rates.

When you see porn stars (i.e. whores) glorified on the internet you are just looking at the extreme tail end of destructiveness our culture has wrought. We could not have gotten here as a society without all the sinfulness between men and women in the first place.

It is for this reason I feel pity for August, and all of the other whores of the world, who are mainly victims of circumstance. Abusive families, a godless culture that offers no respite for lost souls, and zero mercy from bystanders produces a world of death and destruction. Hence the negative birth rates in every "developed" nation.

If we want to turn this ship around, then realistically all we can do is focus on ourselves to serve as an example for others. Both through instruction and deed. And part of that means having mercy upon those who suffer the sins of evil, even if it means it comes as a cost to us. It is for this reason I give to drug addicts, I help selfish, slutty women even if I know I'll never get sex from them (but I do not white knight - I tell them exactly why their behavior is wrong), I take the time to educate the ignorant, and I try to reform my Church. As we show mercy, mercy shall be granted upon us.

So rather than get caught up in August's death, realize she is a small example of a far greater suffering we're all living through, one that tests our souls as men that we alone have the unique burden of carrying. When you can fathom just how much pain and destruction our culture is undergoing, you will finally understand how precious it is to be strong and alive. From here pity is the natural reaction you will have towards those less fortunate who should have been our Neighbors, in a just world.

[Going strong]

Porn (the massive, gay-infused, readily available porn we have now) is very dangerous to society and especially, for kids and young teens, of both sexes.

So, porn "stars" might be themselves victims: victims of greedy promoters, victims of their difficult childhoods and early abuses, but, still they share a big part of the guilt. All in all, they are more guilty than victims, or say, they are guilty (of corrupting the youth but also the less young) with extenuating circumstances.

Personally, as everyday on Earth, there are maybe one hundred thousand people who die and are more deserving than this woman, I won't mourn her. I keep my tears for a (male or female) hard-working peasant in the Philippines or Guatemala who got crushed by a falling tree or a slipping buffalo, or for Conservative, brilliant writer d'Ormesson (who died yesterday), or for any anonymous brave soldier who got shot dead by a bad hombre somewhere in Irak, Syria, Donbass or Mindanao... I got no time left to mourn a "porn people", even an (allegedly) molested and (truly) bullied one.

That said, yes, fags are (online and in real life) mean, devious and calculating sons of bitches.

[CJ_W]

(12-09-2017 06:58 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 06:35 PM)Soundbyte Wrote:  

The reactions of people will depend on how 'close' they were to the dead woman. Fuckoff, for example, probably does not know her, so to him she is nobody. If he believed that porn is an evil or simply not good for you, then it would make sense that he wouldn't see why a lot of guys are giving her a second thought.

Using Linux's story as an example- and no offense intended- If I heard about the same guy that died in a whore house, I wouldn't think too much about it. Don't know him besides his story. But Linux knows the person behind the story, so the death has weight behind it. Meaning.

A lot of guys see her childhood and feel sorry for her. Some guys saw her naked and also feel sorry for her. Some guys are hearing about her for the first time, and don't have any feeling towards her.

At the stage many of us are at, there's going to be guys seeing the correlation between declining interest in their own pump'n'dump lifestyles and a-grade elves like Ames suffering short, degrading lives when they could have been the centrepiece in a happy household being dicked down every night and producing gorgeous, happy kids for a man who had nothing but her best interests at heart.

In a sense this is like seeing a fantastic piece of art being used as kindling to start an oil-drum fire so that a few bums can keep warm for the night, and I think the manosphere is starting to recognise that if women don't have the mental wiring for genuine self-determination then it falls to decent men to slap a collar on them and teach them how to sit.

I don't like seeing girls like Ames die young and dirty because they had a more important role in this world that the modern era of perversion yanked from under them. Even in degenerate pornos you can still tell which girls are slowly having their souls syphoned for cash and which girls never had a soul in the first place.

A lot of this is also happening on the Normie side of things with the whole No Fap thing gaining traction in recent years. People are waking up to the fact that porn, and Hollywood as an industry for that matter, isn't as good as they all make themselves out to be.

Also, in this thread a lot of End game implications for Game are being put forth: game not only saves lives(as it would have in August's case[i.e. meeting someone with enough game to handle her and giver her some kids]) Game saves civilizations as well.

All of this is connected believe it or not, the naysayers in this thread just aren't there yet, maybe they're still in anger phase and want to see society burn, or cause as much destruction as possible.

They don't realize that being a man is not just being a destructive force, It's about being a CREATIVE and STABILIZING force. If those posters want chaos, there's plenty of it in Muslim/Communist countries, or South Africa/Zimbabwe.

A realization needs to happen that Men are NOT just hard Tyrants. . .I suspect that a lot of those naysayers are women in disguise, as women who would do something like that would only view man as the angry tyrant. . .Or just recovering Soyaholics. Men are hard Tyrants to their enemies, but women are NOT our enemies. Not even women's nature.

Our IGNORANCE of women and their nature are our enemies, as well as those who EXPLOIT those forces as weapons against men. There is a very huge distinction here, and it's important to gain a broader view of game, as it impacts all aspects of life.

With life, either you Own the game, you're in the game, or AT the game. You can never be separate from it.

Oh and that one guy . . .should just F- errr. . .just follow what his namesake entails

[Latinopan]

Whatever the career and what she did for a living, suicide is a terrible way for someone to die. Like most suicides cases, this girl was escalating from problems and the not-gay-porn thing just the nail in the coffin.

Now, on different note, not matter what the media the left pretend, homosexual men are still the primary carriers of HIV and others sexual diseases. There is a reason homosexual men have such life expectancy compared to heterosexual men. The media and the left spend lot of time and money since the 80s portraying HIV as something EVERYBODY can get and EVERYBODY is at risk, the reality is as long as you are having heterosexual sex with people that only had heterosexual sex, the potential of getting HIV is almost not existent.

The problem is what many have mentioned here, homosexual men that at some point have sex with women and then spread HIV among heterosexual people.

The decision this girl made is an open secret in the porn industry, many girls in porn have the same issue but they find ways to avoid it.

[Duke Castile]

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that, because of her outspoken position on not fucking gay men, the producers were trying to trick or ambush her into doing it. It seems she had to do her own research and once she discovered she was meant to fuck these guys, she took to twitter.

It would explain her tweet.

Scum all of them.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-09-2017 04:43 PM)Yatagan Wrote:  

After watching this vid on Queer bug chasing, August Ames was totally right in not wanting to do scenes with them

These psychotic bug chasers and gift givers seeking and spreading AIDS have a sort of sick logic about their cult.

Deviant gays exist at the apex of individualism and hedonism. They have zero cares for the future and focus fully on the here and now. They have zero care for their society and total care for their own needs.

Viewed in that light it's understandable that some of these sick fucks actively seek out AIDS, since it's only after contracting inevitable death that they have nothing left to lose and are capable of living entirely in the here-and-now. Get the disease and you never have to give a shit about putting on another condom or demanding the same of another gay.

The "gift-givers" are merely acting out the inevitable conclusion of a lifestyle that gives zero fucks about the society it exists in. Theirs is an act of dominance not dissimilar to rape-jihad committed against infidel women who either want it on some level or ought to suffer it regardless.

It's important to recognise the psychology behind movements like this. Once a certain number of people in an out-group engage in a certain behaviour you simply cannot write it off as a series of individually unique mental illnesses. It must be recognised as a tendency native to that out-group that has sprung from their overall genetic drivers and cultural conduct.

One of the grandest questions of this century is going to be this.

What percentage of socially dysfunctional behaviour from an out-group is large enough to warrant excluding that out-group in its entirety.

[Teep]

Disgusting, couldn't make it through that pozitivity vid.

Those fuckers ought to be hunted down by law enforcement. They're basically 'viral' suicide bombers.

[Highpool]

My final thoughts on this.

Some men are drawn towards raising kids, some men are repulsed by the idea.
Some women are drawn towards raising kids, some women are repulsed by the idea.

The best thing for society is for like to attract like and live their lives as they see fit, with no social programming getting them to do otherwise.

You'd much rather have low birthrates than have a lot of the repulsed group raising jaded, atomized kids with no real support structure.

I read August Ames's childhood story and thought to myself, it's 99.9% likely she's in the repulsed group. It's nearly impossible for someone to grow up like that and have any innate desire to be the centerpiece of a nuclear family. Which isn't the end of the world, it means her life calling is to hook up with like minded men (many of whom can't be good fathers, but still have plenty of physical and intellectual capital to offer whatever community and nation they're part of). To give them what they want out of the sexual market.

I think a lot of the men on RVF are naturally drawn, but got memed into chasing the repulsed lifestyle when they were younger. Some project their desires outward to all of society and say it's everyone's duty to live like that. They could use a wider perspective, or in the case of a few of them, like Mercenary, a line through their name.

That's why most of the anti marriage posts are centered around marriage 2.0, divorce rape, and prevalence of cheating. Rather than "kids are annoying little shits and workplaces where everyone is expected to be a married parent are living hells full of slug-people that I disdain", which being honest, is how I feel about it.

[The Catalyst]

(12-10-2017 12:39 AM)Highpool Wrote:  

Some men are drawn towards raising kids, some men are repulsed by the idea.
Some women are drawn towards raising kids, some women are repulsed by the idea.

That seems mostly untrue and only somewhat true. It's really more about societal conditioning.