[godfather dust]

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/mwbe/business...bout.shtml

"Goals
The City's M/WBE program is governed by 4 core principles: Accessibility, Capacity Building, Sustainability and Accountability. With this in mind, the de Blasio Administration has set aggressive goals to increase opportunities for the City's M/WBEs:
Awarding $16 Billion to M/WBEs by 2025
9,000 City-certified M/WBEs by 2019
Awarding 30% of the value of all City contracts by 2021"

I can't find it, but there's also low interest (3%) loans for women and minorities only.

I don't like affirmative action period, the best person should get the job/scholarship period.

30% is a massive number. If I was a woman or minority I wouldn't even try to make competitive bids, I'd charge out the ass because they will have a hard time reaching that threshold (particularly construction, 90-95% of contractors I've known were white men.)

[456]

I know people who work for the city and they joke with their private sector friends: "just install your sister as owner so we can get you a contract! no really, that's what everyone does!"

[roberto]

What a load of total bullshit.

[DarkTriad]

Sounds like just another standard Apartheid...err....Affirmative Action system.

[DarkTriad]

(03-06-2018 01:01 PM)456 Wrote:  

I know people who work for the city and they joke with their private sector friends: "just install your sister as owner so we can get you a contract! no really, that's what everyone does!"

They're not joking.

[EndsExpect]

(03-06-2018 01:22 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

They're not joking.

Why bother? I know a construction firm where the Owner/CEO who is 6'3" blue eyed blond guy... found he is 1/8th Native American. The guy is now rolling in government contracts.

These people build the system so that cheats and liars win. It's a test to screw honest people.

[torridon747]

It's been like that in the public sector for a long time now. Everyone who is in the know that bids on government contracts has a "minority owned buisness" on paper at least. Without having that stamp on your business you won't even get your bid looked at. The vast majority of these "minority owned" businesses just exist like that on paper to get a leg up on any other businesses that haven't caught up to doing that yet. Because of course these "minority owned" businesses get preferential treatment due to the state making quotas saying they have to give so many out of so many contracts to these "minority owned" businesses.

A lot of these businesses don't (especially in really white areas) even employ minorities at all, it's a complete joke and everyone knows it.

[porscheguy]

This shit has happened for years with government contracts. It’s not a big deal in the construction business. Most of the “minority owned” companies are backed by the white guys who already run big companies. In the end, the bulk of the profits end up in the same place as they always would have, but the public officials get to pay themselves on the back for promoting diversity.

[heavy]

Good post OP to bring to mind and specify...

even if we all knew it was happening at any decent sized municipality

"We're gonna make you work one more 40 more hours in 2018 to be sure a woman or minority gets the bid"

and they wonder why men and white people are pissed.

[TigOlBitties]

Why do minorities even want shit like this? Condescending, pat themselves on the back whites are basically suggesting that you aren't good enough to meet basic requirements.

[The Father]

(03-06-2018 05:01 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  

Why do minorities even want shit like this?

Hmmm. That's a good question. I really don't know! Let me see...could it be...Hey! I got it!!

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