[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-01-2017 06:09 AM)Kona Wrote:  

If he's been in jail since the shooting that's probably time served enough. Worst that happens is they deport him, then he comes right back, like the five other times he did it. Stupid.

Probably against popular opinion here, but I'm beginning to think there are some things Trump needs to stay quiet about. You're dealing with irrational people, San Francisco lawyers in this case, and they turn around and do stupid shit just to fight back.

Aloha!

I get what you're saying but ultimately this is just one woman, as harsh as that sounds.

As a person she's of no national significance but as a political football she's priceless.

I don't say that happily, bit it is what it is. She will achieve far more relevance being denied justice in death than she ever would if she'd lived or even if she'd been avenged.

[Germanicus]

(12-01-2017 01:16 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

It's time to burn San Francisco to the ground. The city is a hotbed of seditious and anti-American activity.

And break apart those tech companies using anti-trust laws.

Considering all the AIDS in the physical bodies of all the bug chasers and pederasts, cleansing Sodom by the Bay with fire is the only way to be sure.

To hell with everyone in SF. Traitorous scum.

[Sonoma]

One upside, in the long run I think this will convince more people to reform immigration laws

[SlickyBoy]

(12-01-2017 07:39 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 06:09 AM)Kona Wrote:  

If he's been in jail since the shooting that's probably time served enough. Worst that happens is they deport him, then he comes right back, like the five other times he did it. Stupid.

Probably against popular opinion here, but I'm beginning to think there are some things Trump needs to stay quiet about. You're dealing with irrational people, San Francisco lawyers in this case, and they turn around and do stupid shit just to fight back.

Aloha!

I get what you're saying but ultimately this is just one woman, as harsh as that sounds.

As a person she's of no national significance but as a political football she's priceless.

I don't say that happily, bit it is what it is. She will achieve far more relevance being denied justice in death than she ever would if she'd lived or even if she'd been avenged.

I'm sure when alive she was right there with most of San Francisco - politically left leaning, if at all, independent "free spirit" living the life of a 32 year old female in the most militantly feminist city in America. Were it someone else murdered under the exact same circumstances she'd likely be right out there with a pussy hat wailing against Trump. Her own family STILL supports sanctuary cities, for chrissakes.

At some point you have to wonder - if a city with families that care more about the narrative - that low end scumbags who aren't even supposed to be in the country matter more than their own damn daughters - what's really left to save? This is like trying to save a battered woman - fuck caring about them, they obviously don't care enough about themselves and will only lash out at those trying to help.

Grant the idiots in the fruitcake state their independence, build a wall along their border and be done with it already.

(11-30-2017 10:40 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

Insane as it seems, I think this was jury nullification because the jury members were so strongly in favor of allowing illegal immigrants to stay in spite of committing crimes.

California does not have jury nullification, but in places like San Francisco, they definitely have prosecutors who are just as liberal as anyone else and deep down inside they really don't want to see this guy get convicted. Did they deliberately drop the ball, probably not. Were they as aggressive and thorough as a prosecutor in say, Florida or Texas would have been? Highly unlikely.

Even given the level of delusion in that region, I still can't believe the defense attorney having the unmitigated gall to suggest this verdict somehow vindicates illegal immigrants, categorically. One day he may experience the gratitude of another fuckwit like the one he just represented.

[durangotang]

Trump should fire Sessions and get someone with balls, not Forrest Gump, to go after the mayors of these cities violating federal law. Send them to Guantanamo.

[Samseau]

(12-01-2017 06:39 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

A photo of the alleged jury is on twitter. Thoughts?

Link??

[Buck Wild]

(12-01-2017 01:16 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

And break apart those tech companies using anti-trust laws.

[spokepoker]

Her family STILL supports sanctuary cities? How many more of their kids are they willing to sacrifice upon that altar?

[Going strong]

(12-01-2017 09:33 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Her family STILL supports sanctuary cities? How many more of their kids are they willing to sacrifice upon that altar?

Very interesting question, and it would deserve a thread and ample philosophical and legal discussion:

Thing is: Is a family, or more precisely, are surviving members of a family, entitled to, and right in, forgiving the killers of a daughter/sister/niece/cousin...?

Same happened with the Bataclan terror attacks: some family members are parading in front of MSM and forgiving the monstrous killers and torturers, but, in the name of what or whom are they forgiving? What gives them the right to forgive?. They were not the ones killed, shot or cut to pieces.

So, personally, I do not recognize to Leftist, SJW families, the right to forgive in the name of the fallen ones... As I'm pretty sure that the young victims, maimed, shot and killed, would NOT forgive the killers who put a terrifying, brutal end to all their dreams.

[Matt Forney]

Nearly 250 years ago, John Adams chose to defend the British soldiers who perpetuated the Boston Massacre in court after every other lawyer in the city refused to. Adams was widely reviled for this because the Bostonians wanted to see the soldiers hang, but he made his decision on the basis that under English jurisprudence, everyone was entitled to a fair trial, legal representation, and the presumption of innocence.

The rule of law is the most fundamental aspect of a functioning civilization. Without the rule of law, you get rule of the mob, the rule that predominates in the third world.

The United States no longer has rule of law. 50 percent of the U.S. population believes that the presumption of innocence, fair trials, and the right to legal representation are artifacts of America's "racist," "Nazi" past. They believe that any case where a white person is accused of a crime---or a white person is accusing a non-white of a crime---should be turned into a kangaroo court in which white privilege and whiteness are punished, no matter the facts.

This belief is so strong that this portion of the population is willing to let a murderer walk---even when the evidence clearly shows he is guilty---solely because they hate white people and want to punish them.

Not only that, whites accused of crimes are having a harder and harder time finding adequate legal representation. For example, Christopher Cantwell cannot find a decent lawyer to defend him against the charges that Charlottesville made against him. Charlottesville---the home of Thomas Jefferson, another Founding Father and lawyer himself---does not have one attorney who recognizes that while they may find Cantwell's views repellent, he is entitled to the presumption of innocence and legal representation like everyone else. He had to hire Elmer Woodard, a lunatic who dresses like a Revolutionary War reenactor and operates his practice out of an abandoned gas station.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Elmer+...79.3676244

It's a testament to how bogus the charges against Cantwell are (and what lying scum his accusers are) that even this guy was able to get all but two of them dropped.

Much of the judiciary itself believes that the rule of law is outmoded and racist. Another example: James Edwards, the host of the radio show the Political Cesspool, recently sued the Detroit Free Press for libel after they called him a "leader of the Ku Klux Klan," despite the fact that he's never even been a member of the KKK. Again, you don't need to agree with Edwards' politics to acknowledge that the Detroit Free Press made a clearly defamatory statement. The court ruled against him on the basis that “a man is known by the company he keeps,” stating that being pro-white and having right-wing views is the same as being the leader of the Klan.

https://www.amren.com/commentary/2017/11...white-men/

This precedent means that fake news media journalists can now make any defamatory statement they want against right-wingers and get away with it. I hope Edwards appeals.

A country cannot survive when one-half of its population believes the other half is unworthy of even the most basic civil rights and legal protection.

If you're still in the U.S. and you're outraged by the Steinle verdict, you better start getting involved in local Republican politics: phone banking and pamphleteering for MAGA candidates, networking with party officials, maybe even running for office yourself. If you don't and the left gets back into power, they are going to round up and possibly kill all of us.

I'm not coming back to the U.S. anytime soon.

[Dulceácido]

Illegal alien with multiple felony convictions in possession of a stolen firearm... Let him go. Sounds legit. Ugh.

[Renzy]

(12-01-2017 09:33 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Her family STILL supports sanctuary cities? How many more of their kids are they willing to sacrifice upon that altar?

Going Strong mentioned the Bataclan massacre. Different country but the same crazy reaction. I thought after that, people's biologically instinctive sense of self-preservation would kick in and they'd reconsider the wisdom of having an open borders policy.

Nope. Instead, this was the typical reaction:

In this case, we've got a Libtard father telling his five year old son not to worry about the jihadi terrorists the liberals have opened their country's doors to because, as he explains 30 seconds into the video:

They might have guns, but we have flowers

Milo compared feminism to cancer. Liberalism must be like AIDs then. It destroys the auto-immune system of a country until it's no longer able to fend off foreign invaders.

[Dulceácido]

"They might have guns, but we have flowers..."

I hope you can make a bulletproof vest out of those flowers, kid.

[CJ_W]

(12-01-2017 06:09 AM)Kona Wrote:  

If he's been in jail since the shooting that's probably time served enough. Worst that happens is they deport him, then he comes right back, like the five other times he did it. Stupid.

Probably against popular opinion here, but I'm beginning to think there are some things Trump needs to stay quiet about. You're dealing with irrational people, San Francisco lawyers in this case, and they turn around and do stupid shit just to fight back.

Aloha!

Maybe, but that's how the left wins. They push and push and push, and people back up little by little. . .next thing you know you're standing barefoot in the snow at night outside your local gulag.

The fact that people haven't been leaving these leftist shi-"paradises" en masse is a bit telling. Trump needs to keep speaking out, and sometimes the left needs to keep pushing so that the regular folk can wake the fuck up before they end up amputating toes from frostbite.

I kind of think that the threshold for this kind of awakening may needs to be on soviet levels of fucked up ness before people get out of their stupor and demand(Re: make) change.

So really again, I have no sympathy after today, yes it was a shame that the girl got killed, but if this isn't an indication that the rule of law no longer matters in leftist paradises like California and that people who VALUE the rule of law need to get OUT of the state, then I have no sympathy for those that decide not to get out right now (before it is too late, seeing how things are going)

Kona, you should really consider getting your sister out of there, help her find a job somewhere better.

[kaotic]

Been following this case closely since both sides proved their cases.

I thought he'd be jail for sure.

This was a slam dunk case.

The dude is a POS - santctuary cities are cancer - ICE needs to tell them to fuck off or hit them where it hurts - at work or at home instead.

This cocksucker knew what a gun was, the LEO who got his gun stolen should've been punished severely for this also.

This was definitely a fuck you to Trumps presidency.

I hope Trump finds every way possible to pull money and resources from CA.

Even though I live here, I hope the administration does something.

[Tactician]

(12-01-2017 10:25 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

If you're still in the U.S. and you're outraged by the Steinle verdict, you better start getting involved in local Republican politics: phone banking and pamphleteering for MAGA candidates, networking with party officials, maybe even running for office yourself. If you don't and the left gets back into power, they are going to round up and possibly kill all of us.

As crazy as that part sounds, this is actually a pretty solid summary of the 20th century. I.e., leftists gaining power and then killing everybody.

There's always been crazy shit going down since the dawn of time and, yet, every generation thinks they are above it all and it won't happen to them.

As a species, humanity is still in it's infancy and there's still a shit ton more trails by fire we'll have to go through before we learn to stop repeating the bad parts of history.

Best to be prepared (and hope not to need it).

[Soothesayer]

Women, especially WESTERN women, should never be on a jury.

Neither should they ever be given the right to vote.

[Agastya]

(12-01-2017 12:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I hope Trump finds every way possible to pull money and resources from CA.

Even though I live here, I hope the administration does something.

What form do you think "pulling money and resources" would take? If he crippled Silicon Valley somehow he would cause massive issues both nationally and globally, and somehow attacking the economy of California would radicalize the entire state and cause massive civil disorder. I too hope he does something, but not something that would turn this place into a complete shit show.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(12-01-2017 11:24 AM)Renzy Wrote:  

Milo compared feminism to cancer. Liberalism must be like AIDs then. It destroys the auto-immune system of a country until it's no longer able to fend off foreign invaders.

It's fitting that liberals (since they encompass almost all gays and minorities) actually do have an above-average prevalence of AIDS

As much as California is fucked, USA shouldn't just let it go like some posters are advising. 4,4 million people there voted for Trump - that's more than the entire population of several small states put together!

If you wouldn't give up on a compatriot from Wyoming, don't give up on the one from California either. It's not that their fault that they're outnumbered by traitorous scum.

[TigOlBitties]

California is a cesspool, full of the most degenerate people in this country. There are so many better and much cheaper places to live in the US. One of the great things about this country is how many options we have.

I have no idea why any conservative/normal person would choose to live there. The deranged leftists will completely destroy it, and will refuse to do any self-reflecting when that happens. They are like a virus, and will move on to the next host. We cannot let this happen.

[SlickyBoy]

(12-01-2017 02:48 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 11:24 AM)Renzy Wrote:  

Milo compared feminism to cancer. Liberalism must be like AIDs then. It destroys the auto-immune system of a country until it's no longer able to fend off foreign invaders.

It's fitting that liberals (since they encompass almost all gays and minorities) actually do have an above-average prevalence of AIDS

As much as California is fucked, USA shouldn't just let it go like some posters are advising. 4,4 million people there voted for Trump - that's more than the entire population of several small states put together!

If you wouldn't give up on a compatriot from Wyoming, don't give up on the one from California either. It's not that their fault that they're outnumbered by traitorous scum.

It's not their fault, but there's also nothing they can do to help by voting since they've always doomed to be outvoted at the electoral level. The entire state wouldn't have to be let go, just the most westerly, most populated and most liberal part of it - hell, even the left coasters have no respect for places like Barstow and Bakersfield. Redraw the border to make everyone happy then kiss the commies goodbye.

The only real danger is when the new left state finally does collapse under the weight of its own political hubris, miles of open coast land would be ripe for infiltration, smuggling, hell, even flat out invasion. From there, the problems would move inward to America. You know leftoids on their own would never give a rats ass about patrolling their own maritime borders, and eventually America would have to step in and rescue the fools from their own stupidity. What would be left to save is another question, though.

[spokepoker]

That sounds like a lot of unnecessary work.
We just need ICE to start running the voting stations and shit will clean up real fast.

[Kona]

(12-01-2017 11:53 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

Kona, you should really consider getting your sister out of there, help her find a job somewhere better.

Well she graduated from the silicon valliest of silicon valley schools, and can check the coveted "Pacific Islander" box on applications. I have a good feeling it helped with her grades, and is probably the reason she has the job she has. Strength is in diversity.

Aloha!

[Syberpunk]

(12-01-2017 11:24 AM)Renzy Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 09:33 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Her family STILL supports sanctuary cities? How many more of their kids are they willing to sacrifice upon that altar?

Going Strong mentioned the Bataclan massacre. Different country but the same crazy reaction. I thought after that, people's biologically instinctive sense of self-preservation would kick in and they'd reconsider the wisdom of having an open borders policy.

Nope. Instead, this was the typical reaction:

In this case, we've got a Libtard father telling his five year old son not to worry about the jihadi terrorists the liberals have opened their country's doors to because, as he explains 30 seconds into the video:

They might have guns, but we have flowers

Milo compared feminism to cancer. Liberalism must be like AIDs then. It destroys the auto-immune system of a country until it's no longer able to fend off foreign invaders.

I've a serious question, I don't have children or any younger nieces or nephews yet so I couldn't know the following, do young boys actually play with little green toy soldiers action men, pretend war anymore?

Because even though I wasn't as obsessed about it as my younger brother: yet we both knew and pretended war scenarios with plastic castles, helicopters, and wargames and we loved it.

We were learning! Children are naturally pro borders, pro defence!

And our parents loved and laughed at it and dad would join in himself at times

I'm not going to spot some cliche about the increase in single child families not having a brother or sister to bounce things off, but I do think a sibling makes you realise you fight your territory for no other reason than it is your innately yours. And not something you have to justify: just natural law.

We're literally being made unhuman, un-ourselves! We were not supposed to live without planting our feet in the ground saying "This is mine, now FUCK OFF". Everything from here to the horizon.

If you explain to these cunts, you're just losing because they're using too much brain, not enough emotion, they look like living creatures but ran out of touch with nature long ago, every argument has a wanky counter argument.

[SlickyBoy]

^My nephew did a few years back when he was that age - it was totally natural for him. Parents aren't shitlibs, but they didn't do anything to encourage him either, he just gravitated to it. Niece did the same thing with dolls. Who knew this stuff was hard wired, right?