Hey guys,
This is my first datasheet, so bear with me if some of the information seems obvious or redundant. What I am going to describe is more of a lifestyle than a game strategy. There may be elements which you can adapt for use as a visitor, but most of my successes come from day game within the university itself.
Background
I think most of what I’m going describe would work best for someone in a similar position, and probably a lot better if you’re younger than I am.
Age: 32 (I often answer 28 or 29 if asked)
Height: 6’0”
Build: 205 lbs, athletic (12-14% bodyfat).
Tattoos: I have a lot on my arms, and some on my torso. They’re essentially passive bait.
Hair: I get a fresh cut every 2 to 3 weeks. I use a beard trimmer to keep a permanent 1-2-day stubble
Ethnicity: I’m mixed. My mother is black and my father is white. I look like a white guy except with oddly curly hair. I have fair skin with dark hair and eyes.
Sensibility: I come off a serious guy (I know this hurts me sometimes). My humor would be described as deadpan.
Game level: I don’t consider myself a player, but having a functional understanding of game seems to be essential for any success here. I have other veteran friends who I consider reasonably attractive and they are grasping at straws when it comes to dating at UNC.
Notch count: 50+
Dress code: I wear well fitted clothing. A common spring/summer outfit for me would be a tailored polo with designer jeans/ casual well fit pants. Occasionally I’ll throw in a James Dean day where I wear I solid well fit t-shirt and jeans. In the winter I wear darker colors, no logos or graphics. This Halloween, the girl that I eventually took home recognized me from a student org and eventually confessed, “I like that you look different, you don’t dress like a boy”. This could just be post coital musings on her part, but I’ll interpret that as a green light to keep doing what I’m doing.
Day game locations
Student Union/Lenoir Dinning Hall/Alpine Bagel
My most common technique is to go to the student union during lunch (11:00-14:00). It’s usually full enough where I am justified in sharing a table. I walk to the cutest girl I can find (6-9) and set my books down across from her. I’ll set up my laptop and/or textbooks and legitimately study for about 10-15 minutes. During this time, I may joke with guys or plain girls who are sitting within ear shot, but I don’t force anything, and I say nothing to the girl/girls of interest until the 10-15 min mark. I then get up, begin to walk away, and over my shoulder ask if she’ll watch my things while I get coffee. On the off chance she acts like this is major inconvenience I’ll pack my books up and leave. Most of the time she’ll enthusiastically agree to watch my things. As I return to the table I evaluate what kind of assignment she is working on, or if she is just killing time. I’ll joke that “I’m surprised I have still have a laptop” or some variant of observational humor based on what she’s doing. I think an important detail here is that I approach the table facing the girl. If she’s making prolonged eye contact or is obviously checking me out, bonus. Once she opens I proceed with normal Day Bang tech. Mutual hate for notoriously difficult professors is reliable fodder. My favorite place to do this is in front of Alpine Bagel. The ambient volume is at a level where I can clearly communicate but not so quiet as make me feel like other people can overhear my conversation.
Pros:
This technique is inexhaustible. I drink coffee and study everyday anyway, and with thousands of girls on campus, I can do this anywhere there is a table to share with a girl.
Cons:
If I’m studying heavy science material, it is markedly more difficult to change gears to humor/banter. Sometimes she’s legitimately busy, her paper that is due tomorrow or the test that she should study for may out prioritize me.
Bangs from Student Union/Coffee Shop: 5
Fetzer Hall (Campus Gym)/ Rec center
I try to create a semester schedule that allows me to go to the gym in the middle of the day when there are only a few people around (13:00-15:00). I don’t like waiting for weights and a crowded gym would completely shut down my gym game. I don’t often directly approach in the gym. Gym girls at UNC are hot and most of them know it. In the gym they receive an uninterrupted stream of attention and praise. This is where a nearly empty gym comes into play. On the second or third set I’ll ask a girl to spot me. I think it’s important that there isn’t some large dude next to me that would be an obviously better spotter. She’ll usually playfully protests that she wouldn’t be strong enough to spot me. Without skipping a beat, I get on the bench/rack while reassuring her that’s she’s strong enough save me. Right before the first rep I’ll look her in the eye and playfully say “don’t let me die”. If she laughs I’ll scold her for losing focus. After the set I’ll ask her if she’s training for “sport or just because?”. If she answers “for sport” I’ll gently neg her for not having her own initiative, and we’ll chat about extracurriculars. If she answers “just because” I’ll gently neg her for being vain, something to the effect of “got to keep those boys swiping right”. I let her response determine if I continue. I proceed as per Day Bang.
Pros:
This allows access to a pool of fit young women that most guys are too scared to approach. Nothing is more satisfying than number closing with a 20-year-old 9 in front an audience. Even if you don’t date/ sleep with the girl, she’ll be someone you can chat up between sets in the future, and talking to giggling receptive girls admiring my strength is a definite confidence boost.
Cons:
If I date/sleep with a girl from the gym I’m going to see her again like it or not. The gym population is significantly smaller than the general pop of the university, missteps here will have amplified consequences.
Bangs from Gym: 2
Study Groups/ Classes
Most departments at UNC have a rigorous academic curriculum. Biology and Chemistry classes here can easily consume your life. As a result, there is a population of girls that don’t go out as much (usually science majors). These girls are often underexposed to game, and are significantly nicer although more awkward.
Phase one, for the first 3 to 4 lectures I’ll sit in the front of the class room. I’ll make a point of actively answering questions from the professor. This isn’t difficult. For whatever reason, students at UNC are reluctant to answer the easiest questions in front of their classmates. Some students will begin to speak up after the first few lectures, but it will be well after I establish myself as the well-spoken guy who understands the material. By the end of this phase the professor usually knows my name, and looks forward to me saving them from awkward silences in their lecture.
Phase two, assuming there isn’t assigned seating, I’ll begin to sit in different places throughout the class room/lecture hall. I then proceed to chat up the girls around me. The more interactive the lecture the better. This works great at UNC because of the reverse class room format. Again, I don’t force the interaction, I say nothing that could even be loosely interpreted as sexual. During this phase I begin to collect contact information for putting together study groups. Sometimes a girl’s interest is strong enough that I bypass the next two phases and just ask her out on the spot.
Phase three, I actually put together study groups. This is a massive time commitment, but if I’m studying anyway why not do so surrounded by girls? The first study session will need to be on campus. I book a room in one of the libraries or find an empty room in the student union. Once I have their confidence I arrange the next meeting off campus, usually some place off Franklin St. I then pick which girls I want to hang out with in a more social context. Alternatively, I can transition girls from the study directly into a date.
Pros:
This allows access to non-party girls. I’m in class anyway, this puts my limited time to good use. Occasionally there is a spontaneous bidding war for my attention that erupts between girls in the study group. The most obvious display of interest in college thus far came from a girl in a study group. After studying for an exam for about 3 hours she insisted that I feel the birth control implant in her arm and then teased that she hasn’t “had a chance to test it out”. It took everything in me to keep my composure, we left the café.
Cons:
This is a massive time sink. There is no guarantee that she wants anything more than a study partner. I am potentially friend zoning myself if I don’t peruse the girls after the first few study sessions. Some clusters I encounter in class have no interest in talking to anyone they don’t already know. Like the gym, the girl is going to be in my class whether I like it or not. Missteps here will cost me.
Bangs from Class: 2
Bangs from social circle from class: 3+
Student Organizations/ Student Life
I pick two or three student orgs per semester that I am willing to participate in. I only attend orgs where I have a legitimate interest and proficiency for the activity. This semester I’m in club boxing, rifle and pistol club, and ballroom dancing.
The play here is a lot like class, except easier because everybody is there to socialize anyway. During the first few weeks I go out of my way to treat attractive girls as average. During this time piles of guys are making futile attempts to get the same girls. By only participating in student orgs where I have a demonstrable proficiency I get to DHV while other guys ask typical interview questions.
Boxing is the newest on my roster, but by far my favorite. The high intensity physical nature of it puts girls in a very approachable mood. Maybe it literally wears down their defense, I don’t know. It’s also a great place to show case physical power. When I’m beating the 19-22 year-old-guys in sprints and heavy bag drills in front of the girls, their reservations about my age melt. I’ll be attending boxing for the rest of my time at school and maybe for life. It’s also I good place to meet guy friends. Students at boxing tend have a less SJW vibe. There are a lot of ROTC students there, and they usually have a genuine interest in my military background.
The Rifle and Pistol club is a nice standby. They only shoot once a month, so it doesn’t require much time. I like to shoot and I’m good at it, and through the club UNC pays for ammo. Bringing my own weapon on range day and putting tight groups on paper generates positive curiosity. The novelty of having a liberal university foot the bill for my ammunition is enough to keep me in this org. There aren’t as many girls in this org, and their average looks are a little lower. It’s a good place to meet country girls who don’t have as much of a feminist vibe.
Pros:
You get to meet women who have at least one thing in common with you. Most girls have their defenses reduced while their having a good time.
Cons:
Like the gym, this environment has a lower population size. I’ll be seeing the girl again regardless of outcome. The 9 to 10 range girls will have an orbit of dudes comically stumbling over themselves for their attention. The silver lining here is that in boxing I may get to hit these guys in the face.
Bangs from Student Orgs: 4
General observations about university life
UNC Girls:
There is plenty of rejection. Most of it is mundane, but I have had a couple spectacular shoot downs. This is usually an age thing. I try not to pout and move on.
In terms of looks these girls are the highest quality that I’ve dated in my life, but they are by far the flakiest. I’ve been flaked on at literally every stage of the dating cycle. In my experience, the hotter the girl the more likely she is to flake. They don’t regularly possess any feminine skills. With few exceptions most have no idea how to cook.
On top of being flakes the girls here (maybe everywhere) are glued to their cell phones. Texting, snapchat, twitter, and Instagram dominate their discussions with actual people. These platforms also provide a constant stream of approval and attention. It can feel like I’m still competing with every person in her life even when I’ve got the girl on a date. I believe because of this media obsession most girls have somewhat homogenized personalities. They tend to drone on about the same things, Did you hear about Kim Kard...blah blah blah, Did you see the new Demi La…blah blah blah, I cannot even...blah blah blah. If you guys have access to hand held EMP devices let me know.
SJW/Feminist culture is making it progressively more difficult to joke around with college aged girls. They could be offended by anything. Any subject may take an unscheduled nose dive to discussions about “the patriarchy”. Explain something to them in a tone they don’t like and you’re “mansplaining” sit in a position that is too wide for their liking and your “manspreading”. Sometimes I can joke out of these accusations, other times it kills the interaction. I never apologize. The only silver lining here is that a lot of younger men allow themselves to be henpecked out of contention.
Making matters worse girls often have some overtly gay friend that they love to hang out and gossip with. This guy is never on my side, and I resent the gatekeeper role that some of them have. This is more common at UNC than any other location I’ve ever lived at. The gays here have endangered species status and they know it.
Greek Life:
Fraternity and Sorority life is a double-edged sword. If I date a sorority girl it may open a slew of other girls or shut them off to me all together. Frat boys are good allies, they get you into parties that would be inaccessible, but can transform into insufferable cockblocks if they feel they’re not getting their way or that you’re taking their girls. Frats have unparalleled access to good looking girls. If I was younger, or had higher tolerance to bullshit it would be worth my time to join. There is another veteran who is a founding member of a new chapter that started this semester and I’m eager to see how he does.
Self Care:
I cannot emphasize fitness enough. The girls here are vain, if they feel they can physically trade up to a better-looking guy for a night, they will do so. I’ve had more girls than I care to admit confess that they have long term boyfriends after they slept with me. I’m currently trying to get below 10%, but it’s difficult. I want to keep a muscular build but I don’t want to overdo the size. Aside from increasing your peripheral resistance (which wears on your heart) the 9-10 girls aren’t typically with the hulks.
I have my own place, and I live by myself (aside from my dog). I think I often win out over other guys in girls lives because of my logistics. I don’t have to worry about a messy roommate. I don’t have to plan alone time. There is no chance for interruption. The only change I would make if I did it all over again would be to live in the dorm the first year. This would have been a massive head start to build a broader social circle.
Having a dog is an amazing mid-game asset. Girls are building affection for me and my pup when they come over to the house. The dog also seems to smooth out awkward lulls that may otherwise interfere with closing.
Day game is organically linked to night game here. I can put together a separate datasheet for night game at UNC, accumulating passive income of $3000 per month, or staying below 15% body fat past 30.
This is my first datasheet, so bear with me if some of the information seems obvious or redundant. What I am going to describe is more of a lifestyle than a game strategy. There may be elements which you can adapt for use as a visitor, but most of my successes come from day game within the university itself.
Background
I think most of what I’m going describe would work best for someone in a similar position, and probably a lot better if you’re younger than I am.
Age: 32 (I often answer 28 or 29 if asked)
Height: 6’0”
Build: 205 lbs, athletic (12-14% bodyfat).
Tattoos: I have a lot on my arms, and some on my torso. They’re essentially passive bait.
Hair: I get a fresh cut every 2 to 3 weeks. I use a beard trimmer to keep a permanent 1-2-day stubble
Ethnicity: I’m mixed. My mother is black and my father is white. I look like a white guy except with oddly curly hair. I have fair skin with dark hair and eyes.
Sensibility: I come off a serious guy (I know this hurts me sometimes). My humor would be described as deadpan.
Game level: I don’t consider myself a player, but having a functional understanding of game seems to be essential for any success here. I have other veteran friends who I consider reasonably attractive and they are grasping at straws when it comes to dating at UNC.
Notch count: 50+
Dress code: I wear well fitted clothing. A common spring/summer outfit for me would be a tailored polo with designer jeans/ casual well fit pants. Occasionally I’ll throw in a James Dean day where I wear I solid well fit t-shirt and jeans. In the winter I wear darker colors, no logos or graphics. This Halloween, the girl that I eventually took home recognized me from a student org and eventually confessed, “I like that you look different, you don’t dress like a boy”. This could just be post coital musings on her part, but I’ll interpret that as a green light to keep doing what I’m doing.
Day game locations
Student Union/Lenoir Dinning Hall/Alpine Bagel
My most common technique is to go to the student union during lunch (11:00-14:00). It’s usually full enough where I am justified in sharing a table. I walk to the cutest girl I can find (6-9) and set my books down across from her. I’ll set up my laptop and/or textbooks and legitimately study for about 10-15 minutes. During this time, I may joke with guys or plain girls who are sitting within ear shot, but I don’t force anything, and I say nothing to the girl/girls of interest until the 10-15 min mark. I then get up, begin to walk away, and over my shoulder ask if she’ll watch my things while I get coffee. On the off chance she acts like this is major inconvenience I’ll pack my books up and leave. Most of the time she’ll enthusiastically agree to watch my things. As I return to the table I evaluate what kind of assignment she is working on, or if she is just killing time. I’ll joke that “I’m surprised I have still have a laptop” or some variant of observational humor based on what she’s doing. I think an important detail here is that I approach the table facing the girl. If she’s making prolonged eye contact or is obviously checking me out, bonus. Once she opens I proceed with normal Day Bang tech. Mutual hate for notoriously difficult professors is reliable fodder. My favorite place to do this is in front of Alpine Bagel. The ambient volume is at a level where I can clearly communicate but not so quiet as make me feel like other people can overhear my conversation.
Pros:
This technique is inexhaustible. I drink coffee and study everyday anyway, and with thousands of girls on campus, I can do this anywhere there is a table to share with a girl.
Cons:
If I’m studying heavy science material, it is markedly more difficult to change gears to humor/banter. Sometimes she’s legitimately busy, her paper that is due tomorrow or the test that she should study for may out prioritize me.
Bangs from Student Union/Coffee Shop: 5
Fetzer Hall (Campus Gym)/ Rec center
I try to create a semester schedule that allows me to go to the gym in the middle of the day when there are only a few people around (13:00-15:00). I don’t like waiting for weights and a crowded gym would completely shut down my gym game. I don’t often directly approach in the gym. Gym girls at UNC are hot and most of them know it. In the gym they receive an uninterrupted stream of attention and praise. This is where a nearly empty gym comes into play. On the second or third set I’ll ask a girl to spot me. I think it’s important that there isn’t some large dude next to me that would be an obviously better spotter. She’ll usually playfully protests that she wouldn’t be strong enough to spot me. Without skipping a beat, I get on the bench/rack while reassuring her that’s she’s strong enough save me. Right before the first rep I’ll look her in the eye and playfully say “don’t let me die”. If she laughs I’ll scold her for losing focus. After the set I’ll ask her if she’s training for “sport or just because?”. If she answers “for sport” I’ll gently neg her for not having her own initiative, and we’ll chat about extracurriculars. If she answers “just because” I’ll gently neg her for being vain, something to the effect of “got to keep those boys swiping right”. I let her response determine if I continue. I proceed as per Day Bang.
Pros:
This allows access to a pool of fit young women that most guys are too scared to approach. Nothing is more satisfying than number closing with a 20-year-old 9 in front an audience. Even if you don’t date/ sleep with the girl, she’ll be someone you can chat up between sets in the future, and talking to giggling receptive girls admiring my strength is a definite confidence boost.
Cons:
If I date/sleep with a girl from the gym I’m going to see her again like it or not. The gym population is significantly smaller than the general pop of the university, missteps here will have amplified consequences.
Bangs from Gym: 2
Study Groups/ Classes
Most departments at UNC have a rigorous academic curriculum. Biology and Chemistry classes here can easily consume your life. As a result, there is a population of girls that don’t go out as much (usually science majors). These girls are often underexposed to game, and are significantly nicer although more awkward.
Phase one, for the first 3 to 4 lectures I’ll sit in the front of the class room. I’ll make a point of actively answering questions from the professor. This isn’t difficult. For whatever reason, students at UNC are reluctant to answer the easiest questions in front of their classmates. Some students will begin to speak up after the first few lectures, but it will be well after I establish myself as the well-spoken guy who understands the material. By the end of this phase the professor usually knows my name, and looks forward to me saving them from awkward silences in their lecture.
Phase two, assuming there isn’t assigned seating, I’ll begin to sit in different places throughout the class room/lecture hall. I then proceed to chat up the girls around me. The more interactive the lecture the better. This works great at UNC because of the reverse class room format. Again, I don’t force the interaction, I say nothing that could even be loosely interpreted as sexual. During this phase I begin to collect contact information for putting together study groups. Sometimes a girl’s interest is strong enough that I bypass the next two phases and just ask her out on the spot.
Phase three, I actually put together study groups. This is a massive time commitment, but if I’m studying anyway why not do so surrounded by girls? The first study session will need to be on campus. I book a room in one of the libraries or find an empty room in the student union. Once I have their confidence I arrange the next meeting off campus, usually some place off Franklin St. I then pick which girls I want to hang out with in a more social context. Alternatively, I can transition girls from the study directly into a date.
Pros:
This allows access to non-party girls. I’m in class anyway, this puts my limited time to good use. Occasionally there is a spontaneous bidding war for my attention that erupts between girls in the study group. The most obvious display of interest in college thus far came from a girl in a study group. After studying for an exam for about 3 hours she insisted that I feel the birth control implant in her arm and then teased that she hasn’t “had a chance to test it out”. It took everything in me to keep my composure, we left the café.
Cons:
This is a massive time sink. There is no guarantee that she wants anything more than a study partner. I am potentially friend zoning myself if I don’t peruse the girls after the first few study sessions. Some clusters I encounter in class have no interest in talking to anyone they don’t already know. Like the gym, the girl is going to be in my class whether I like it or not. Missteps here will cost me.
Bangs from Class: 2
Bangs from social circle from class: 3+
Student Organizations/ Student Life
I pick two or three student orgs per semester that I am willing to participate in. I only attend orgs where I have a legitimate interest and proficiency for the activity. This semester I’m in club boxing, rifle and pistol club, and ballroom dancing.
The play here is a lot like class, except easier because everybody is there to socialize anyway. During the first few weeks I go out of my way to treat attractive girls as average. During this time piles of guys are making futile attempts to get the same girls. By only participating in student orgs where I have a demonstrable proficiency I get to DHV while other guys ask typical interview questions.
Boxing is the newest on my roster, but by far my favorite. The high intensity physical nature of it puts girls in a very approachable mood. Maybe it literally wears down their defense, I don’t know. It’s also a great place to show case physical power. When I’m beating the 19-22 year-old-guys in sprints and heavy bag drills in front of the girls, their reservations about my age melt. I’ll be attending boxing for the rest of my time at school and maybe for life. It’s also I good place to meet guy friends. Students at boxing tend have a less SJW vibe. There are a lot of ROTC students there, and they usually have a genuine interest in my military background.
The Rifle and Pistol club is a nice standby. They only shoot once a month, so it doesn’t require much time. I like to shoot and I’m good at it, and through the club UNC pays for ammo. Bringing my own weapon on range day and putting tight groups on paper generates positive curiosity. The novelty of having a liberal university foot the bill for my ammunition is enough to keep me in this org. There aren’t as many girls in this org, and their average looks are a little lower. It’s a good place to meet country girls who don’t have as much of a feminist vibe.
Pros:
You get to meet women who have at least one thing in common with you. Most girls have their defenses reduced while their having a good time.
Cons:
Like the gym, this environment has a lower population size. I’ll be seeing the girl again regardless of outcome. The 9 to 10 range girls will have an orbit of dudes comically stumbling over themselves for their attention. The silver lining here is that in boxing I may get to hit these guys in the face.
Bangs from Student Orgs: 4
General observations about university life
UNC Girls:
There is plenty of rejection. Most of it is mundane, but I have had a couple spectacular shoot downs. This is usually an age thing. I try not to pout and move on.
In terms of looks these girls are the highest quality that I’ve dated in my life, but they are by far the flakiest. I’ve been flaked on at literally every stage of the dating cycle. In my experience, the hotter the girl the more likely she is to flake. They don’t regularly possess any feminine skills. With few exceptions most have no idea how to cook.
On top of being flakes the girls here (maybe everywhere) are glued to their cell phones. Texting, snapchat, twitter, and Instagram dominate their discussions with actual people. These platforms also provide a constant stream of approval and attention. It can feel like I’m still competing with every person in her life even when I’ve got the girl on a date. I believe because of this media obsession most girls have somewhat homogenized personalities. They tend to drone on about the same things, Did you hear about Kim Kard...blah blah blah, Did you see the new Demi La…blah blah blah, I cannot even...blah blah blah. If you guys have access to hand held EMP devices let me know.
SJW/Feminist culture is making it progressively more difficult to joke around with college aged girls. They could be offended by anything. Any subject may take an unscheduled nose dive to discussions about “the patriarchy”. Explain something to them in a tone they don’t like and you’re “mansplaining” sit in a position that is too wide for their liking and your “manspreading”. Sometimes I can joke out of these accusations, other times it kills the interaction. I never apologize. The only silver lining here is that a lot of younger men allow themselves to be henpecked out of contention.
Making matters worse girls often have some overtly gay friend that they love to hang out and gossip with. This guy is never on my side, and I resent the gatekeeper role that some of them have. This is more common at UNC than any other location I’ve ever lived at. The gays here have endangered species status and they know it.
Greek Life:
Fraternity and Sorority life is a double-edged sword. If I date a sorority girl it may open a slew of other girls or shut them off to me all together. Frat boys are good allies, they get you into parties that would be inaccessible, but can transform into insufferable cockblocks if they feel they’re not getting their way or that you’re taking their girls. Frats have unparalleled access to good looking girls. If I was younger, or had higher tolerance to bullshit it would be worth my time to join. There is another veteran who is a founding member of a new chapter that started this semester and I’m eager to see how he does.
Self Care:
I cannot emphasize fitness enough. The girls here are vain, if they feel they can physically trade up to a better-looking guy for a night, they will do so. I’ve had more girls than I care to admit confess that they have long term boyfriends after they slept with me. I’m currently trying to get below 10%, but it’s difficult. I want to keep a muscular build but I don’t want to overdo the size. Aside from increasing your peripheral resistance (which wears on your heart) the 9-10 girls aren’t typically with the hulks.
I have my own place, and I live by myself (aside from my dog). I think I often win out over other guys in girls lives because of my logistics. I don’t have to worry about a messy roommate. I don’t have to plan alone time. There is no chance for interruption. The only change I would make if I did it all over again would be to live in the dorm the first year. This would have been a massive head start to build a broader social circle.
Having a dog is an amazing mid-game asset. Girls are building affection for me and my pup when they come over to the house. The dog also seems to smooth out awkward lulls that may otherwise interfere with closing.
Day game is organically linked to night game here. I can put together a separate datasheet for night game at UNC, accumulating passive income of $3000 per month, or staying below 15% body fat past 30.
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