[Keepiticy2]

How does one learn to be a better tactician or a strategist?

Is there a difference between the two?


I'm asking because I want to make sure my business strategy is perfect. I'm very content with it now and feel it will be a success. However, like most things in life, there's room for improvement.

Not only in business but with women, self-improvement, day to day actions etc.

[Mr_Nobody]

Hi Friend,

I am no expert or millionaire, however something specific that I have found to improve strategy and general success is observation. Just like game, if you are an observant man, you will immediately know whether or not you have a chance with a woman. Business is similar, observing the existing environment will improve your chances. You will be able to spot and neutralize competition, determine existing success in that niche, and more importantly know if what you are doing is actually working.

I don't know if there's a huge difference, but being a tactician seems better to me, like a strategist who actually executes on his grand plan.

You can have the best plan in the world, but the guy who executes day in and day out will forge ahead the fastest.

[ProGambler]

It's a gift I was born with but I guess you could learn by studying the great tacticians - Sun Tzu, Lord Nelson, Napoleon, Trump, Bezos etc

[Montrose]

Tactical problem are low complexity but highly technical, and are usually a means to an end. Strategic problems occur in high complexity contexts and are concerned with end goals. In tactical problems most parameters are identified (but may be unknown). In strategy, the parameters are vaguely defined.

Gaming the girl you met last night is a tactical problem. Planning your sex life for the next 5 years, whether LTR, plates, marriage and kids or what not is a strategic problem.
Assaulting a British infantry line with a French infantry column is tactics. Deciding if you are going to attack Prussia or Austria and move your cavalry to Spain or Russia is strategy.
Opening a shoe shop in Shanghai is a tactical problem. Deciding the international development for your firm is strategic.

Tactics can be taught easily but it is very dependent on your domain. Strategy is difficult to teach because most strategic problems are new. General knowledge is the best school. I’d read accounts of military campaigns and political history.

[Bienvenuto]

The importance of tactics over strategy is the fact that supposedly the Vietnamese didn't win one large scale engagement during the Vietnam War. Yet they won the war.

The Viets were offered all manner of better, bigger equipment by their allies but the likes of General Vo Nguyen Giap et al. eschewed the option of improving Vietnamese forces as a large scale conventional army. Instead they took the wider, longer term view. The real American weakness was in appetite for the war amongst the American media and public at home.

You could see the Tet offensive as a PR campaign. nearly every mission the Viets embarked on was a tactical defeat, but.. the map of Vietnam on US nightly news was lit up like a Christmas tree. That meant far more to the Viets than their overwhelming casualties.

With Viet attacks coming seemingly out of the blue and appearing everywhere, including the US embassy in Saigon, deep inside the green zone, the selling of the war as 'winnable' to the US public was dealt a hammer blow.

viewed tactically the Tet offensive was a defeat.
viewed strategically it was a master stroke that has influenced the waging of subsequent independence/ guerrilla struggles.

The Nazis by contrast had by far the best army in WWII and fought brilliantly despite all the odds to almost the very end but with Hitler as their commander in chief they were hamstrung strategically.

I realise that this might be something that most already know. Out of interest, does anyone have a detailed 5 year strategy with women? Anyone care to share what that might that look like?

[H1N1]

(03-07-2018 01:42 AM)Montrose Wrote:  

Assaulting a British infantry line with a French infantry column is tactics.

And certain death, mon ami

[Montrose]

(03-07-2018 02:35 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Out of interest, does anyone have a detailed 5 year strategy with women? Anyone care to share what that might that look like?

Here is an example of what it might look like. The tone should be emphatic because it’s important. Strategic plans cannot be very detailed because strategy deals with complexity and uncertainty.

In my Social Circle number 1, every effort will be employed to enhance my social value with the girls who are LTR material, specifically girl A and B. I will rely to that end on my friendship with girl C who wil be used as a pivot because of her social skills, but under no circumstance am I to have sexual interaction with her.

My current relationship with girl D has been strained and exhausting. Considering her beauty and my feelings for her, the relationship remains valuable for me. I will make a major effort to regain frame over the next months, by setting up a conflict situation with no intention of retreat. If it fails the relationship will be ended.

Unless I’m in an exclusive relationship, I will endeavour to increase my notch count by 12 per year, ideally at least half of them from day game.

Longer term, the objective remains to enter an exclusive relationship with the intention of raising children before the age of xx. This should be explored with adequate candidates such as Girl A, Girl B or even Girl E. After careful consideration, Girl D has been found to be inadequate.

[Dalaran1991]

(03-07-2018 04:24 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 01:42 AM)Montrose Wrote:  

Assaulting a British infantry line with a French infantry column is tactics.

And certain death, mon ami

Fucking Agincourt/Waterloo sympathizers!

For me strategy = vision, tactic = execution. You need proper tactics to carry out a sucessful strategy.

For women: a PUA guy with great in-field skills and "hard game" is a good tactician. He approaches a lot, know how to open, escalate, close etc. However, he has a shitty job, no career prospect, do tons of night game, binge-drink and drug, go to shitty venues full of trashy girls. That's poor strategy.

Now if that same guy keeps all his "hard skill" but works on himself, develop his career, build a solid social circle around himself and his image to funnel in passive income of pussies, quit his job and become location independence so that he can travel to pussy paradise. That's a good strategist. However, he still needs his hard skill or he wont be able to close and will only "get lucky".

Obviously either method works but having both is always better. It will also depends a lot on your current situation and needs.

[Mr.]

(03-07-2018 08:59 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

For me strategy = vision, tactic = execution. You need proper tactics to carry out a sucessful strategy.

Certainly. A strategy is systems-based. You need to develop a world-view or a system that operates based on what it takes in--what you observe or learn.

New information will change your strategy, but if your strategy is well-developed, it will take these possible changes into consideration and change accordingly. Your tactics are how you deploy your strategy. These too will allow your strategy to develop and adapt based on what tactics you use or what new tactics you learn.

It's a feedback loop between tactics and strategy. A good strategy will allow for multiple tactics and good tactics will strengthen and solidify your strategy. Goals determine your strategy and tactics.

If your goal is a ONS with a rando, your strategy could be to run night game in a bar. Your tactics will be to cold open a lot of women, DHV by laughing it up with the bartender/band, and teasing the women. If you notice the women don't like the band, but are focused on some other group, you adjust tactics and start hanging out with the other group. Your strategy is still the same but has adjusted to your new tactics that you changed based on your new observations.

This all feeds back into your strategy for later. Bands are not as high value as whatever other group you noticed. Therefore, your new strategy for DHVs is social proof from that group. Your tactic is you being seen having a good time with them.

[SteezeySteve]

Use your mental powers to analyze and strategize a sport you love. Look at highlights and games but instead of rooting for teams,getting emotional,etc look at it like a chess match.
I think a great sport that exemplifies this is lacrosse. Its called little war for a reason. Its like a human chess match.
Boxing seems to be another good sport for this. Its actually funny because when ever people talk about boxing strategy it sounds very similar to lacrosse strategy.
Not all sports are good for these because they tend to be more feats of athleticism or technique based like foot ball. Sure it takes strategy with xs and os but nobody can say that watching football makes anyone truly appreciate the art of cunning strategy used to defeat an opponent like lacrosse or boxing.

Reading old books from old world politicians, courtiers,and generals/world leaders. Napoleon is pretty good for this. He was a true strategist. I always found talleyrand interesting but never read about him. Otto von Bismarck. If you prefer eastern ideas look at books from old samurai like the book of three rings,the art of war,and maybe even Bruce Lee. Essentially Instead of reading the 48 laws of power go study the people the book talks about or similar works.


If you live by the sea and want to be athletic start training for some deep ocean swimming,amd paddling. But dontjust train study the tides,the swell,etc. Get caught in rip currents on purpose and really just study those tides....the water is truly the most deceptive enemy one could train against. Estimate distances and times between objects. Anylize and study that beach. Look at the weather and figure out how that effects the swell,amd tides.

At the end of the day though I think its about knowing something well and being able to translate other things in those terms. I think it starts with understanding a certain topic well first so you have some structure. Then when You have that base knowledge you can start to play "chess" with that thing snd strategize with it. At the end of the day best case scenario you improve your mind worst case scenario you aren't watching tv. Just take an activity you already enjoy or want to do and go from there.

I remember this one dude who was an elementary school teacher telling me about how some little kids from the hood aren't the best at school in general but will understand fractions really easily because they've been around drug sales.

[Mage]

(03-06-2018 08:53 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  

How does one learn to be a better tactician or a strategist?

Is there a difference between the two?


I'm asking because I want to make sure my business strategy is perfect. I'm very content with it now and feel it will be a success. However, like most things in life, there's room for improvement.

Not only in business but with women, self-improvement, day to day actions etc.

Read Go Rin No Sho - The Book of Five Rings. It's a classic Japanese self-mastery book that uses the term you use: strategist, so you will probably like it.

To become a great man in general just read this forum for a longer time.

It's hard to tell anything more specific because your question is too broad.