[King of the Bongo]

How do you guys handle pump and dump?

I don't care doing the pump and dump with western girls, because they know what's up and can handle it, but my conscience and my feelings make it really hard for me to pump and dump in South East Asia.

I never directly lie to fuck her, but I always let her think that maybe there is a possibility for a relationship or that I will stay for a longer period of time, if I really like her. The thing is, I'm telling her this, even if I'm bored when hanging out with her, just want to fuck and get rid of her - > I already know that I don't want to see her again after sex.

Sometimes I even meet them afterwards, because I feel bad about just going silent after sex... but I also feel uncomfortable when I spend time with them and the time is also wasted.

How do you handle this? Only fuck girls, that you don't want to dump after? Giving a shit and not having a bad conscience? Tell them exactly what's in your mind and miss a lot of fucks? What makes it even harder is that I'm more into the quiet and good girls and less into the crazy party chicks, because I'm more introvert than extrovert I think.

[the-dream]

I don't know. It's something that I struggle with too. I usually just tell them that I'm leaving their country and they're a great girl but it's best that we don't stay in touch because we can't ever be together if we're across the world from each other.

[Brazilianguy]

I think the correct thing is to treat sluts like sluts and good girls like good girls.
If a girl plays it straight with you you should treat her right.

[_Samo_]

I've felt similar in the past. But there is no need to lead a girl on giving her false hope. You can be polite and on good terms after a bang.

I'm also in touch with some girls I previously banged but am not really interested in as they sometimes text me. I don't see anything wrong with that, though I wouldn't meet up with them if I didn't want to, you definitely shouldn't be wasting your time like that.

[CrackerDaddy]

(11-23-2017 08:54 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

I think the correct thing is to treat sluts like sluts and good girls like good girls.
If a girl plays it straight with you you should treat her right.

^^^
THIS

[Windom Earle]

(11-23-2017 08:54 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

I think the correct thing is to treat sluts like sluts and good girls like good girls.
If a girl plays it straight with you you should treat her right.

Yes, but do your due diligence to make sure you're not led up the garden path by a slut posing as the sweet chaste girl that she knows you want.

Womens' cunning is more refined than a man's ability at spotting it.

[MMM]

^ Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression ‘the weaker sex’ was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part.  DonaldTrump

[RagnarLothbrok]

It helps to have a bit of a player image/vibe. Every girl I slept with in SEA knows that I also sleep with other girls, so the issue of having to dump a girl never really comes up. The sluts already expect it and the good girls also know the deal, even if I don't explicitly tell them.

[Veul]

Yeap, a lot of us fell down to the old good-girl-you-such-a-player just to realize she had five times the partners you had

[Brazilianguy]

(11-23-2017 12:30 PM)Veul Wrote:  

Yeap, a lot of us fell down to the old good-girl-you-such-a-player just to realize she had five times the partners you had

I think the main thing to look for is age.
If a girl is older than 22 and still single, you can bet it´s not due to lack of options.

[King of the Bongo]

I came to the conclusion that it's best for everyone involved, especially for myself, if I'm just as honest as possible. If I already know that I will leave after a few bangs, I shouldn't talk like it's maybe possible that we will meet again after a few bangs.

It's okay for me to lose some bangs because of that attitude, because no bang is worth the struggle I have in my own head when saying stuff, that I already know is not really true. Everytime I'm saying something from what I know deep down that it's not true, slowly kills my integrity and thereby my confidence.

For me it also doesn't matter if she's a lying bitch or not, because as long as I'm true to myself and act on my personal values over any needyness, her lies can't harm me anyway. Of course they only can't harm me as long as I know that they are lies, but it makes no difference if I'm also lying or not.

At the end it doesn't mean that I'm talking with her about all my future plans or feelings and stuff, but if she asks me about something and I know she will not like the answer, I just don't give her an answer, I say I don't want to talk about it, change the topic, escalate, whatever or I will say it as nice and smooth as possible.

[questor70]

"If I already know that I will leave after a few bangs, I shouldn't talk like it's maybe possible that we will meet again after a few bangs."

Think of it this way...

Even under the BEST of circumstances when your feelings ARE there and you date for a while and then you have a fight or hit some other dealbreaker, women are apt to retroactively accuse you of only ever wanting to use them for sex and nothing more. This is just something they do to save face when they're rejected. It's flows out of them like happy little trees out of Bob Ross. Unless you have a high tolerance for drama you don't want to give them any genuine ammo.