[Striking]

I've just banged this 7.5 chick raw and I'm getting massive post coital regret... She had all the tells of a slut yet I didn't have a condom on me and couldn't control myself.

Is banging raw in the West completely out of the question? I'm thinking that the average girl on campus has to have a notch count between 20 and 70... So many of them are on the pill, so it's no question they let guys fuck them raw...

What have you guys gotten in terms of STDs and what behavior caused you to catch one?

[Cane Toad]

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[yankeetravels]

Dude, I fucked every Filipina I met in their country raw and came out with no major damage. I think you can handle a couple of college sluts as long as you pull out.

[RedPillLife]

(10-14-2017 02:06 AM)Striking Wrote:  

Is banging raw in the West completely out of the question? I'm thinking that the average girl on campus has to have a notch count between 20 and 70... So many of them are on the pill, so it's no question they let guys fuck them raw...

I don't know where you've got your statistics but your argument makes perfect sense. No way a chick lets you go raw if she's not on pill.

[blck]

(10-14-2017 03:32 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Dude, I fucked every Filipina I met in their country raw and came out with no major damage. I think you can handle a couple of college sluts as long as you pull out.

[mensch]

Honestly, do a wager on this one: the chance of catching something is just not worth it.
I would never fuck raw a girl I don't know for a couple of months at least.

[N°6]

On a long enough timeline, the chances of catching something from a liberated woman is 1:1.

[bgbusiness]

Interesting post, but it really depends.
I have met virgin girls who are international students or Americanized Asian + religion background.
I have also dealt with girls who are sluts and have 20+ lays by the end of their first year in college.

I wouldn't say around 50+, that's pretty rare in my experience although they do exist...

I was fucking raw on couple Asian fuckbuddies and then had one night stand with a international Chinese chick, she just seemed super clean and I didn't catch anything. Then I met a girl from a dating app and fucked her raw thinking that I won't catch something, but I got chlamydia, I took couple pills, then I was fine in a week.

That was around summer, since then I started using condoms on new girls.

[zatara]

My experience is you can assume an average of 5-10 guys a year for every year of being single in their 20s, presuming they're moderately attractive and sociable.

[Conquerer7]

During my time at university (UK), the local girls would bang regularly but would be very careful with who and where as they didn't want the slut reputation in the same city as all their family and friends live in. 5-10+ a year

Study abroad students? Where do I begin. I would say at least 15+ for every year abroad. The script was so simple but so rewarding. They had no family or friends holding them back as they would never find out. Every September/October and January/February. I would make sure to walk about the campus that bit more and help out at any welcome events for study abroad students arriving. You could see the eagerness and excitement in these girls who knew the real reason they really wanted to study abroad and it was not to concentrate on studying their unmarketable English or X studies degree.

The way it usually went at these events. Silmilar lines as on campus to an extent.

"Welcome to X, where are you from
I am from (insert many countries around the world), the accent here is hard to understand but I like/love it (giggles). I haven't seen that much.
You can join me tonight/tomorrow/this week and I'll show you something the usual visitor to X does not get to see. What halls are you staying in?
I am staying in X, how will we keep in contact?"

The amount of dates spent with these fresh, enthusiastic girls asking questions as to 'Why do the local girls do XYZ?' and making fun of them due to the lack of class from the majority. Even girls from other western countries on occasion doing this. I've met a few great local girls but you could see the embarrassment and evil stares on the best looking local girls at seeing how these girls blew them out the water in how to attract and spend time with a man. Walking along the streets in heels, the unique accents taking the notice of the locals, taking pictures of the highlights of Scotland, wanting to sit with me in the pub in front of a log fire due to how cold it was for them compared to home, then back to their female shared halls of 6, with the added bonus and stories that came of these halls being set aside for the study abroad students. It was like a secret society of sorts with girls wanting to experience the best of a local to fulfill their fantasies. The dirty things that these girls did considering no one was there they knew and to watch over them. They knew they were only here for 5 or 10 months and wanted to make the most of not being serious. A few were desperate to travel in Europe the odd weekend or during holidays and I was only too happy to walk around the streets of Amsterdam etc with these girls who had invited me for the novelty and paid their own way. How these girls could go back and look the parents in the eye as they ask what they got up to while studying abroad.

University might be bad for the majority of things and I question how some of these girls will turn out but this was a highlight. However, you can still run the campus/library game even if you are not a student (I am here for research purposes, former student for etc...) at those times of the year and I have successfully.

[Sourcecode]

I haven't been in school in years. I live near about 2-3 miles from a college campus.

If I can bang 30 girls a year.
I don't see why a college she female can't do the and with much more ease.

But by average.. Not talking sluts.
I think 10 hits a year is a better average. A lot of girls stick around in the rotation.
Even females would rather have a steady fuck buddy than have to hope a new guy can fuck then right every week.

You also have to factor that college girls find ways to stress themselves out and be busy. Even if it's trivial things they don't have time to constantly be on their backs... Or knees

[christpuncher]

Well it's been about 10 years so my info might be out of date, but the "known" sluts in my school had notch counts around 20-40 from what I've gathered, in 3rd year. This is by far the minority, less than 10%. Sure there's probably some secret sluts too, another 10% maybe. The majority of girls seemed to only want a boyfriend-->husband though, or weren't interested in dating at all.
One known slut I was aware of also got regular STD testing done but was always clean.

If I had to guess I'd say by the time a girl has finished college their notch count is:
40% 0-4
40% 4-10
20% 10+

[Seth_Rose]

The best way for me to estimate a college girl's notch count is to extrapolate from the number of women men bang. If these college girls are supposedly racking up 10 notches per year, its means there are tons of guys out there racking up an insane 40-50 notches per year, based on the 80/20 principle. Or that average guys are racking up 10 notches per year as well. From someone who lived in a fraternity house for 3.5 years, I can tell you there are probably no guys out there hitting 50+ notches per year. 25 bangs a year would be a unicorn.

The most successful guy in my fraternity banged over 100 girls by the time he graduated. An absolute legend who would bang smokeshow's regularly. But break that down a bit and that comes out to 20-30 girls per year. Another highly successful and male-model looking guy in my fraternity racked up about 45 notches total in his college career. And these guys are the cream of the crop. The latter guy was not only 6'2, handsome and charming, but he extensively studied PUA. Even the top 20% of guys in my fraternity in terms of notch counts was probably around 10+.

I remember we did a fantasy football draft with my fraternity brothers and in order to choose the order we chose in we had to say our notch count. Out of 10 guys, the highest notch count was 9. Granted, we were not a top-tier frat, but we had a lot of pretty girls come through and a ton of wild parties. So if these "frat stars" are only banging 10-20 girls during their whole college careers, how could a female's possibly be higher?

The average college slut probably fucks on average 10 dudes before graduating, and that's on the high end. Yes, really. I've met girls that have openly said they fucked 20+ dudes, but they are not that common and have plenty of slut tells. The average girl's notch count would be something like this:

Freshman year: 4-6 dudes, mostly from one night stands. She is getting the "college experience".
Sophomore year: 3-4, as she regrets her Freshman year partying and wants to take it easy.
Junior year: 2-3, she turns 21 and starts going to bars, but overall it's time to find a boyfriend and stop spreading her legs all the time.
Senior year: 1-2, has a long-term boyfriend.

Yeah, not that exciting and less than you think. As far as one can be an "expert" on college, I did write a book on it... so I am pretty confident in my estimates. Again, if girls' notch counts were 20-70 like OP estimates, that means either:

1.) Most guys would have an equal number of notches, or
2.) There would be tons of guys with 100+ notch counts, which is not the case.

Or maybe my math is wrong, feel free to criticze.

As for STD's, I think I maybe heard of a couple guys catching them, but quite rare for college girls.

[pancakemouse]

Chances of catching STDs (as well as potential risks) are overstated:
https://markmanson.net/std-guide

[Spectrumwalker]

I know we can get caught up in the moment, but it probably wasn't a smart thing to do. western girls are petri dishes with the sex drives of men. After dating and living abroad the last few years the first American girl I take out back home goes to show me something on her phone. As she types in the Google search box I see porn links pop up from her previous searches. And ontop of that she had a friend texting her asking her if "she was going to get the D?" to which she was giggling and joking about. No she didn't get the D, I called it a night I was so repulsed. Welcome back to the states.

But I've seen on Drudge time and time again about STD rates being on the rise in the US. It ain't worth it to not use a condom. And for you guys dating abroad, sure the gals may have lower notch counts, but the men in the countries are more likely to use hookers both in and out of relationships and then pass it on to the girls. Wrap it up.

But honestly STD's are the least of my concerns that's on the back of my mind with western girls. I was reading an article yesterday about a medical graduate in Jolly ole England being charged with sexual assault and put on a sex offenders registry after having consensual sex with a girl he met a tinder. He was grabbing her tits to hard and pulling her so she comes back at him and destroys his life and future. What kind of bullshit is this. That's just pure evil. To hell with that. I know it ain't common, but just the fact that nonsense like this is possible in our countries is a serious buzzkill. Keep your wits about you with these broads.

When I came back through to USA when asked if I have anything to declare, I was thinking "why yes I do, my own dick". I'll wait for South America.

[Captain Gh]

Estimating a Woman's Notch count NEVER leads tk Anything good! Ever since a forum member quoted me this I've felt better. If you play this Game... assume the risk. More powrt to you if you an enjoy it with a Cap on! For me it's RAW 4 LIFE!

[The Beast1]

To a woman, sex is meaningless. To you, sex takes work and is a great reward.

A woman will never appreciate the effort it takes to bed her. In the great words of Einstein," if you compare a fish to a bird and grade him accordingly to the bird's skills no wonder the fish is a failure!"

Apples and Oranges!

[asdfk]

^just quoted Einstein in a thread on girls notch counts. Repped.

[Repo]

Meh, in my opinion the view that sex is any type of reward is the wrong mindset. When you lead the interaction but are indifferent to whether sex happens or not and are ready to walk when she gives you bullshit, women magically behave better.

[questor70]

(10-14-2017 10:31 AM)Repo Wrote:  

When you lead the interaction but are indifferent to whether sex happens or not

Sure, but even though she may not realize it, you still know it's a put-on.

Also, as far as sex being seen as worthless, women typically see sex as transactional. They use it as a tool. It's value for its own sake is downplayed. At least the sluts are approaching it more at a male level, although the hedonic adaptation makes them take it for granted.

[Repo]

If you have options, it isn't a put on.

[Repo]

They only view it as transactional if you give them too much time to think about it. Women are driven by feelings, not logic. Make her feel some type of way and she'll hamster any "transaction" to be a good deal.

[Striking]

(10-14-2017 09:37 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

The best way for me to estimate a college girl's notch count is to extrapolate from the number of women men bang. If these college girls are supposedly racking up 10 notches per year, its means there are tons of guys out there racking up an insane 40-50 notches per year, based on the 80/20 principle. Or that average guys are racking up 10 notches per year as well. From someone who lived in a fraternity house for 3.5 years, I can tell you there are probably no guys out there hitting 50+ notches per year. 25 bangs a year would be a unicorn.

The most successful guy in my fraternity banged over 100 girls by the time he graduated. An absolute legend who would bang smokeshow's regularly. But break that down a bit and that comes out to 20-30 girls per year. Another highly successful and male-model looking guy in my fraternity racked up about 45 notches total in his college career. And these guys are the cream of the crop. The latter guy was not only 6'2, handsome and charming, but he extensively studied PUA. Even the top 20% of guys in my fraternity in terms of notch counts was probably around 10+.

I remember we did a fantasy football draft with my fraternity brothers and in order to choose the order we chose in we had to say our notch count. Out of 10 guys, the highest notch count was 9. Granted, we were not a top-tier frat, but we had a lot of pretty girls come through and a ton of wild parties. So if these "frat stars" are only banging 10-20 girls during their whole college careers, how could a female's possibly be higher?

The average college slut probably fucks on average 10 dudes before graduating, and that's on the high end. Yes, really. I've met girls that have openly said they fucked 20+ dudes, but they are not that common and have plenty of slut tells. The average girl's notch count would be something like this:

Freshman year: 4-6 dudes, mostly from one night stands. She is getting the "college experience".
Sophomore year: 3-4, as she regrets her Freshman year partying and wants to take it easy.
Junior year: 2-3, she turns 21 and starts going to bars, but overall it's time to find a boyfriend and stop spreading her legs all the time.
Senior year: 1-2, has a long-term boyfriend.

Yeah, not that exciting and less than you think. As far as one can be an "expert" on college, I did write a book on it... so I am pretty confident in my estimates. Again, if girls' notch counts were 20-70 like OP estimates, that means either:

1.) Most guys would have an equal number of notches, or
2.) There would be tons of guys with 100+ notch counts, which is not the case.

Or maybe my math is wrong, feel free to criticze.

As for STD's, I think I maybe heard of a couple guys catching them, but quite rare for college girls.

Well, I'm obviously talking about the average girls that are in the game, that make themselves available, if you will; of course there are still non promiscuous women; either really focused on school, religious, ugly, or whatever their reason. You also have to consider when talking about a city college, the players that aren't in university that bed these girls. So yeah 20 to 70 by the time they leave isn't out of the question, plus they didn't come in as virgins, or at least many didn't.

[Gas]

(10-14-2017 09:37 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

The most successful guy in my fraternity banged over 100 girls by the time he graduated. An absolute legend who would bang smokeshow's regularly. But break that down a bit and that comes out to 20-30 girls per year. Another highly successful and male-model looking guy in my fraternity racked up about 45 notches total in his college career. And these guys are the cream of the crop. The latter guy was not only 6'2, handsome and charming, but he extensively studied PUA. Even the top 20% of guys in my fraternity in terms of notch counts was probably around 10+.

But was this before or after the Tinder/online era?

I've had some really good looking friends of mine show me their Tinders, it's just stupid, they could be banging a different girl every night with less effort than it takes to cook dinner.

"Hey you're cute."
"So are you."
[10 messages of bla bla bla]
"I've got a bottle of wine and about to start a movie, join?"
"Sure!"

Literally that easy. I would wager the Chads nowadays are slaying a lot more pussy than their predecessors.

[Sonoma]

I'm going to second both Seth and Christpuncher.

I had a lot of female friends in college and only the sluttiest of them were at 50+

Most were 5-10, with quite a few under 5.


Most of the most attractive guys IN the game were around the 30-40 mark by senior year. Most frat guys and athletes were 5-15. Many dudes were under 5


Most girls require a guy who brings tingles and most guys honestly just don't put in the effort or have the talent for getting girls.