[Moma]

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You are 100% right. I actually cook my own food daily (and hardly ever eat out) and it actually works out cheaper than eating the crap that they sell outside.

These bloated lizards are simply lazy (I have two friends who are in the 300 club and they do not exhibit any restraint when it comes to eating)

[Chad Daring]

(09-09-2011 03:47 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You are 100% right. I actually cook my own food daily (and hardly ever eat out) and it actually works out cheaper than eating the crap that they sell outside.

These bloated lizards are simply lazy (I have two friends who are in the 300 club and they do not exhibit any restraint when it comes to eating)

Everyday I interact with my clientle and I'll watch people get a plate of pasta, with bread, and then a side of rice then they'll look at me and go "nothing like loading up on carbs right!" Then walk off laughing.

The hard truth is most Westerners dont want to be healthy. I say good riddance, fuck 'em. It'll purify the gene pool with time.

[gringochileno]

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You're right that fresh, healthy food isn't all that more expensive than junk food but that small difference can mean a lot to people who can't afford to spend any more than is necessary. Access is a big factor too, arguably even more so than cost, which is why giving grocers an incentive to open stores in underserved areas has to be an important part of any solution. Finally, there's the issue of convenience. It takes more time to cook meals every day than it does to pick up KFC on the way home. You might not have that luxury when your household has multiple kids and both parents (or a single mom) are working multiple crappy jobs just to make ends meet.

Sure people can be weak-willed and unmotivated, but that's not the whole story, otherwise you'd see a more uniform rate of obesity across class lines.

[Gmac]

(09-09-2011 04:31 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You're right that fresh, healthy food isn't all that more expensive than junk food but that small difference can mean a lot to people who can't afford to spend any more than is necessary. Access is a big factor too, arguably even more so than cost, which is why giving grocers an incentive to open stores in underserved areas has to be an important part of any solution. Finally, there's the issue of convenience. It takes more time to cook meals every day than it does to pick up KFC on the way home. You might not have that luxury when your household has multiple kids and both parents (or a single mom) are working multiple crappy jobs just to make ends meet.

Sure people can be weak-willed and unmotivated, but that's not the whole story, otherwise you'd see a more uniform rate of obesity across class lines.

Honestly with the time it takes you to visit the fast food joint and get home, you could have practically cooked an entire meal at home. Ah, convenience... yeah, we're right back to lazy again. Not having enough time is a cop out. You make time for these sorts of things, just like with anything else that important.

If I had a nickel for every...

[Pilgrim37]

Everybody Knows........ (the future of mainstream America)
Leonard Cohen


Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows




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[Roosh]

Americans cooking at home = http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cook_home

[gringochileno]

(09-09-2011 05:25 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 04:31 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You're right that fresh, healthy food isn't all that more expensive than junk food but that small difference can mean a lot to people who can't afford to spend any more than is necessary. Access is a big factor too, arguably even more so than cost, which is why giving grocers an incentive to open stores in underserved areas has to be an important part of any solution. Finally, there's the issue of convenience. It takes more time to cook meals every day than it does to pick up KFC on the way home. You might not have that luxury when your household has multiple kids and both parents (or a single mom) are working multiple crappy jobs just to make ends meet.

Sure people can be weak-willed and unmotivated, but that's not the whole story, otherwise you'd see a more uniform rate of obesity across class lines.

Honestly with the time it takes you to visit the fast food joint and get home, you could have practically cooked an entire meal at home. Ah, convenience... yeah, we're right back to lazy again. Not having enough time is a cop out. You make time for these sorts of things, just like with anything else that important.

If I had a nickel for every...

Not if you don't have a car and you live in the middle of a food desert. I see what you're saying but you don't need to invoke some morality play where the poor are more lazy and undisciplined than everyone else to explain why they're more likely to be obese. People in general are lazy and undisciplined, and on top of that, the poor face unique challenges that make the problem even worse. And that's good news because it means that it's possible to do something about the problem with the right public health measures.

[Gmac]

(09-09-2011 05:56 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 05:25 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 04:31 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You're right that fresh, healthy food isn't all that more expensive than junk food but that small difference can mean a lot to people who can't afford to spend any more than is necessary. Access is a big factor too, arguably even more so than cost, which is why giving grocers an incentive to open stores in underserved areas has to be an important part of any solution. Finally, there's the issue of convenience. It takes more time to cook meals every day than it does to pick up KFC on the way home. You might not have that luxury when your household has multiple kids and both parents (or a single mom) are working multiple crappy jobs just to make ends meet.

Sure people can be weak-willed and unmotivated, but that's not the whole story, otherwise you'd see a more uniform rate of obesity across class lines.

Honestly with the time it takes you to visit the fast food joint and get home, you could have practically cooked an entire meal at home. Ah, convenience... yeah, we're right back to lazy again. Not having enough time is a cop out. You make time for these sorts of things, just like with anything else that important.

If I had a nickel for every...

Not if you don't have a car and you live in the middle of a food desert. I see what you're saying but you don't need to invoke some morality play where the poor are more lazy and undisciplined than everyone else to explain why they're more likely to be obese. People in general are lazy and undisciplined, and on top of that, the poor face unique challenges that make the problem even worse. And that's good news because it means that it's possible to do something about the problem with the right public health measures.

I guess you're just more optimistic about society than I am... haha.

[gringochileno]

(09-09-2011 06:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 05:56 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 05:25 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 04:31 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

(09-09-2011 03:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Point taken, but I have a unique perspective because of my career and I'm able to view these eating habits on a daily basis. Being weak-willed and irresponsible is exactly what it boils down to. What rationality is there aside from "junk food is cheap?" Fresh food is pretty cheap too, but a lot of families would rather take short cuts instead of cooking a healthy meal every night.

You're right that fresh, healthy food isn't all that more expensive than junk food but that small difference can mean a lot to people who can't afford to spend any more than is necessary. Access is a big factor too, arguably even more so than cost, which is why giving grocers an incentive to open stores in underserved areas has to be an important part of any solution. Finally, there's the issue of convenience. It takes more time to cook meals every day than it does to pick up KFC on the way home. You might not have that luxury when your household has multiple kids and both parents (or a single mom) are working multiple crappy jobs just to make ends meet.

Sure people can be weak-willed and unmotivated, but that's not the whole story, otherwise you'd see a more uniform rate of obesity across class lines.

Honestly with the time it takes you to visit the fast food joint and get home, you could have practically cooked an entire meal at home. Ah, convenience... yeah, we're right back to lazy again. Not having enough time is a cop out. You make time for these sorts of things, just like with anything else that important.

If I had a nickel for every...

Not if you don't have a car and you live in the middle of a food desert. I see what you're saying but you don't need to invoke some morality play where the poor are more lazy and undisciplined than everyone else to explain why they're more likely to be obese. People in general are lazy and undisciplined, and on top of that, the poor face unique challenges that make the problem even worse. And that's good news because it means that it's possible to do something about the problem with the right public health measures.

I guess you're just more optimistic about society than I am... haha.

Don't underestimate the power of a public health campaign to change behavior as long as it has teeth (i.e. it actually changes economic incentives). Look at what cigarette taxes and regulations have done to smoking rates over the last 40 years.

[CupCake]

If you want to know why Americans are fat, work at a grocery store.

I sell more junk food on foodstamps than anything else. The average foodstamp purchase almost always involves soda, boxed pizzas, chips, and multiple microwave dinners. The government is literally funding laziness and obesity. It pisses me off every time I have to process one of these transactions.

Why do I even work when the government pays people to get fat?