I decided to put it in the newb section due to the "I'm writing about her, while she's doing some other shit/she's fucking someone else/she doesn't give a shit" rule. So as you can imagine this is about a girl (friend) of mine. Let's call her J.
Important details:
I've known this chick for 9 years
I went FULL beta on her 6 years ago. So beta, that I friendzoned myself. Three times. True story.
Has a boyfriend (going through a bad time at the moment). He is a cool guy. We know each other and get along ok
No, I don't hear the stuff she does with the boyfriend and im not there to comfort her. Never been.
She's good looking and smart
I've been abroad for about 3 years, with a few gaps in between.
The last 10 months I lost 10Kg (22Lbs)
So 2-3 weekends ago a friend of ours has a housewarming party. I get there with some male friends, the girls had a dinner before. I'm well dressed (good looking blazer) and bring a champagne bottle with me.
Females, also friends from the same group, are impressed. We get to a shitty pub, and order some drinks. We talk as a group, normal stuff. Drinks are very fucking strong, she takes one and is already more than tipsy. We all get out, waiting to know what are we doing next. She tells me she's been working out, doing body combat stuff, so I show her how to punch properly touching her a bit here and there. Nothing serious. During this wait (about 30minutes) she starts to get really close, I blazed into hand on the hip. And proceed a bit lower until hand is on her ass and up again. did this a couple of times.
We end up going to a club.
In the club we talk a bit more, she dances (rubs her ass in my dick till i'm hard. It's J's classic move). I talk with some other chicks that were there for a while. J comes to me and we start talking with 5cmdistance, whisper in ear. The kiss closing basics. I know that i could have closed, but i didn't.
Night ends and we go home. I driver her car to my place and i tell her the following:
"J, Listen carefully: Don't you ever do something like this to me again. This time I controlled myself. Next time I won't. You know I like you (friend like type not love type) and that I also like and respect your boyfriend)". She said that she thinked about "doing something with me" because she liked the way I changed, but she was not sure. She drives away to her place with kind of upset face.
After this happened we've been together (as a group) for a few times. Last week I had a birthday dinner, so I was looking good again (another blazer, cool shirt). Some friends pick me up (J, 2 other girls and one guy) and we went to a cool bar with a nice view. During the way to the bar I speak German and Spanish with one of the other girls in the car, thus DHV to everyone in the car.
I had been to this bar before, so I give indications and lead. We explored the venue for a while and went for some drinks. I start to flirt a bit with the waitress, to get the orders faster and J gets each time closer to me looking for some attention. I order drinks for everyone, and the waitress forgets to charge her drink so we slip out quickly. We're talking again and she starts touching me and I reciprocate. Again hand on her hip, pulling her close to me, hand on ass etc.
We get to the car (we were 5, and i was with her on the backseat with another girl) and J starts telling me that shes been working out harder and i call bullshit on it. She lifts her leg (she had a short skirt) and tells me to get a feeling of her hard leg. She definitely had worked out, but i tease her and tell her to tighten the muscles. I also tell her that what she's doing is a bit pornographic (we were 5 in the car lol). She blushes, gets a bit ashamed and puts her leg down. So we go later on our separate ways and when I get home I text her, it quickly degrades into drunk pseudo-classy-sexting. I would have done something, but it was logistically impossible and "everybody would know about it".
Fast forward to today. My friends have been gossiping about this situation. Since she's in Spain, I decided to ask her when is she coming back. I accuse her, jokingly, of never inviting people to visit her when she's away, and she tells me that she has invited before and that i need to redeem myself. I tell her, i hope to have at least 70 years to redeem myself so i have plenty of time. She replies that i should be quick (I sensed a double meaning here, both for redemption and quickness) and tells me that she has a conference in a city, where I have a few friends. I tell her that we could go visit the place, and that one of my female friends could rent me half bed (portuguese joke). J get's jealous and tells me that I could stay with her in the hotel to split costs![[Image: hamster2.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/hamster2.gif)
I say ok, but i'll talk with my friend first to see if she has something (a small lie, even though she always told me that if i ever go there she offers me a place to sleep, not her bed though).
She also told me that she knew a good place to eat, and i told her the following "i've always heard that the best way to conquer a man's heart through his stomach, and that she had learned well this lesson". She replied with a "lol" and "no comments..." I was laughing at the situation.
We continue talking, and she asks me the name of the bar from the previous week, because she really liked it. I tell her the name and also that I only take her to nice places. She asks me if I know more cool places like that, to which I replied of course and invited her to go to another one this friday. She said yes and that she looks forward.
I know where this is heading... and it's balls deep. Red pill laws state that: Girls don't break up before having something else. I heard (info i got from gossip) that she is afraid to be alone, that's why she hasn't broken up with her boyfriend yet, thus confirming the law.
My question is: Would you bang? I would have cared A LOT 6 years ago, now I don't really care if I get the bang or not. It would be nice though, since I'm going through a dry spell and am out of prospects.
tl;dr: A girl friend (HB7-girl next door type) that I've known for 9 years, noticed my very positive change (weight loss, style, red pillesque atittude) and it seems like she's DTF. She's cool and would def bang, however I have some doubts. She has a boyfriend, that I know and get along ok(not a real friend though). She is also part of my close group of friends. Would you bang? I'm on a dry spell without prospects.
Important details:
I've known this chick for 9 years
I went FULL beta on her 6 years ago. So beta, that I friendzoned myself. Three times. True story.
Has a boyfriend (going through a bad time at the moment). He is a cool guy. We know each other and get along ok
No, I don't hear the stuff she does with the boyfriend and im not there to comfort her. Never been.
She's good looking and smart
I've been abroad for about 3 years, with a few gaps in between.
The last 10 months I lost 10Kg (22Lbs)
So 2-3 weekends ago a friend of ours has a housewarming party. I get there with some male friends, the girls had a dinner before. I'm well dressed (good looking blazer) and bring a champagne bottle with me.
Females, also friends from the same group, are impressed. We get to a shitty pub, and order some drinks. We talk as a group, normal stuff. Drinks are very fucking strong, she takes one and is already more than tipsy. We all get out, waiting to know what are we doing next. She tells me she's been working out, doing body combat stuff, so I show her how to punch properly touching her a bit here and there. Nothing serious. During this wait (about 30minutes) she starts to get really close, I blazed into hand on the hip. And proceed a bit lower until hand is on her ass and up again. did this a couple of times.
We end up going to a club.
In the club we talk a bit more, she dances (rubs her ass in my dick till i'm hard. It's J's classic move). I talk with some other chicks that were there for a while. J comes to me and we start talking with 5cmdistance, whisper in ear. The kiss closing basics. I know that i could have closed, but i didn't.
Night ends and we go home. I driver her car to my place and i tell her the following:
"J, Listen carefully: Don't you ever do something like this to me again. This time I controlled myself. Next time I won't. You know I like you (friend like type not love type) and that I also like and respect your boyfriend)". She said that she thinked about "doing something with me" because she liked the way I changed, but she was not sure. She drives away to her place with kind of upset face.
After this happened we've been together (as a group) for a few times. Last week I had a birthday dinner, so I was looking good again (another blazer, cool shirt). Some friends pick me up (J, 2 other girls and one guy) and we went to a cool bar with a nice view. During the way to the bar I speak German and Spanish with one of the other girls in the car, thus DHV to everyone in the car.
I had been to this bar before, so I give indications and lead. We explored the venue for a while and went for some drinks. I start to flirt a bit with the waitress, to get the orders faster and J gets each time closer to me looking for some attention. I order drinks for everyone, and the waitress forgets to charge her drink so we slip out quickly. We're talking again and she starts touching me and I reciprocate. Again hand on her hip, pulling her close to me, hand on ass etc.
We get to the car (we were 5, and i was with her on the backseat with another girl) and J starts telling me that shes been working out harder and i call bullshit on it. She lifts her leg (she had a short skirt) and tells me to get a feeling of her hard leg. She definitely had worked out, but i tease her and tell her to tighten the muscles. I also tell her that what she's doing is a bit pornographic (we were 5 in the car lol). She blushes, gets a bit ashamed and puts her leg down. So we go later on our separate ways and when I get home I text her, it quickly degrades into drunk pseudo-classy-sexting. I would have done something, but it was logistically impossible and "everybody would know about it".
Fast forward to today. My friends have been gossiping about this situation. Since she's in Spain, I decided to ask her when is she coming back. I accuse her, jokingly, of never inviting people to visit her when she's away, and she tells me that she has invited before and that i need to redeem myself. I tell her, i hope to have at least 70 years to redeem myself so i have plenty of time. She replies that i should be quick (I sensed a double meaning here, both for redemption and quickness) and tells me that she has a conference in a city, where I have a few friends. I tell her that we could go visit the place, and that one of my female friends could rent me half bed (portuguese joke). J get's jealous and tells me that I could stay with her in the hotel to split costs
I say ok, but i'll talk with my friend first to see if she has something (a small lie, even though she always told me that if i ever go there she offers me a place to sleep, not her bed though).She also told me that she knew a good place to eat, and i told her the following "i've always heard that the best way to conquer a man's heart through his stomach, and that she had learned well this lesson". She replied with a "lol" and "no comments..." I was laughing at the situation.
We continue talking, and she asks me the name of the bar from the previous week, because she really liked it. I tell her the name and also that I only take her to nice places. She asks me if I know more cool places like that, to which I replied of course and invited her to go to another one this friday. She said yes and that she looks forward.
I know where this is heading... and it's balls deep. Red pill laws state that: Girls don't break up before having something else. I heard (info i got from gossip) that she is afraid to be alone, that's why she hasn't broken up with her boyfriend yet, thus confirming the law.
My question is: Would you bang? I would have cared A LOT 6 years ago, now I don't really care if I get the bang or not. It would be nice though, since I'm going through a dry spell and am out of prospects.
tl;dr: A girl friend (HB7-girl next door type) that I've known for 9 years, noticed my very positive change (weight loss, style, red pillesque atittude) and it seems like she's DTF. She's cool and would def bang, however I have some doubts. She has a boyfriend, that I know and get along ok(not a real friend though). She is also part of my close group of friends. Would you bang? I'm on a dry spell without prospects.
