Can you explain the lodging situation a bit?
Roosh
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Quote: (09-09-2011 01:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:
Can you explain the lodging situation a bit?
Quote: (09-10-2011 07:05 AM)Lumiere Wrote:
I left Stockholm yesterday.
In terms of women I was not too impressed with the city. The average Swedish woman is a 4 at best. If you have a stereotype of blonde haired blue-eyed barbie dolls, you will be disappointed. Only 15-20% of swedish girls seems to be natural blondes and they age noticably badly.
I couchsurfed so I was able to stay a week otherwise I would have had to leave after a few days the place is so damn expensive.
Nightlife in Stureplan I was told by my host was 'snooty and pretentious' but I have a better word for it. Hypergamous.
More down to earth rock bars can be found though like Anchor, Garlic & Shots and Harry B James. I was told a bar called Rocks was a good option on Fri and Sat also.
This is a good website for whats rocking in Stockholm
http://www.cityrock.net/en/
Sodermalm district is more down to earth and more my kind of scene.
Tip : Systembolaget is a state owned chain shop that has a monopoly on selling alcohol so stock up there and get your drink on before leaving to hit the bars if you don't want to bankrupt yourself. Weak beers and things like that are available from places like 7/11 but they are not allowed to sell anything over 3.5% so Systembolaget is your friend.
Apart from that I would suggest getting out of Stockholm and hitting :
- Uppsala (student town) and
- Gothenburg, like a smaller Stockholm but more friendly and with a decent student population also
Trains in Sweden have places to plug in your laptop and you can buy a wifi code if you want internet. Book in advance for best prices here :
http://www.sj.se
The hottest girl I saw in Sweden was in Uppsala at the bus stop. Solid 9. Long blonde hair, blue eyes and model looks. I assumed she was Swedish. I spoke to her. She was Portugese. She was a student and had only been there a week.
For both Uppsala and Gothenburg you need to tap into the student scene to find the decent parties. In Uppsala they happen in what they call student nations. Get yourself a false student ID card and you will be set.
One more tip. If you are going to leave to the baltics (to Finland or Estonia for example) from Stockholm, take an overnight ferry.
A guy I spoke to in Stockholm said people party on the ferry because booze is cheap and it was easy to get laid. He recommended Viking ferry company.
At first I thought he was taking the piss because it looked like I was the only person there under the age of 60 and over the age of 10.
He was not wrong though. You have to filter out all of the family groups and OAPs which make up the majority of the passengers and find yourself a diamond.
Total number of sets opened : 1
Time from meeting to sex : 30 mins
I just sat at the table next to her and said 'hi'. She asked me to dance and I took it from there. Danced with her not so good looking friend too for a bit to get her on my side and prevent a cockblock.
After about 20 mins she invivted me to her cabin 'for a drink'. Downed some whiskey and claimed my Sri Lankan flag. Good thing too as it's damn near impossible to claim that flag in Sri Lanka itself. My first flag claimed in international waters too. A double first.
Gonna meet the chick later tonight and spend the weekend banging her.
Quote: (09-10-2011 10:00 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Luckystar, he is not your typical stereotypical indian guy.
Quote: (09-10-2011 10:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:
Stockholm is a great place to visit due to being a beautiful city with a very rich cultural heritage. It's however also the Monaco of Northern Europe. A playground for affluent ex-pats, international movers & shakers, modelling hopefuls and the Scandinavian elite. The inner city (which is basically the only part visitors will come in contact with) carries a high degree of non-nationals not completely unlike Kuala Lumpur or Manhattan. Stockholm is the most expensive city in one of the most heavily taxed and well-off countries in the world. With that said, if you are going to Sweden with your main objective to recruit talent, DON'T GO TO STOCKHOLM - UNLESS you have a serious bankroll, UNLESS you have great looks, UNLESS you have an "in" on an influential social circle. The ROI is simply not good enough.
Personally, I dislike Stockholm. I consider it a cliquish, shallow cesspool made up of a few genuine successful people and their throngs of hang-around wannabes and their inflated opinion of their station. I can't find the link right now (it's in academic Swedish anyhow) but there was a report released about 6 months ago that concluded that visitors to Stureplan (the main nightlife district in Sthlm) generally did not have a good time when going out. They were however willing to endure expensive drink prices, exorbitant cover charges, long lines to the door and snotty attitudes just in order to be able to be seen out 6 about. Status chasing is extremely important in this city and I want to underline that Sthlm is an anomaly with regard to the mentality of the rest of he nation.
Quote: (09-10-2011 11:10 AM)Luckystar Wrote:
I do agree with Lumiere that Swedish girls do not appear to age well.
Quote: (09-10-2011 11:10 AM)Luckystar Wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that PUAs (I hate the term) for years have been singing praises of day game in Stockholm. I definitely think it's warranted.
Quote: (09-10-2011 02:32 PM)torontokid Wrote:
Here's the club I visited. Free entry because my friends signed all of on the online guest list.
http://www.collagestockholm.com/blogg/category/bilder/
What does the forum think of these girls?
Quote: (09-10-2011 08:52 AM)Roosh Wrote:
The positive reports are coming from black guys while neutral or negative reports are coming from white guys. I believe there are two reasons for this:
1. Black guys (from USA) have it easier. This topic has been discussed here. White guys, especially ones that look Swedish with fair features, have to work for it, perhaps harder than places with more attractive women in Eastern Europe.
2. Black guys and white guys don't view white girls the same way. White guys value face just as much (if not more) than body. Black guys value a white girl's body more than her face, generally preferring thickness. Nothing is wrong with that, but there is not a lot of overlap of what white and black guys would prefer in Sweden. Tastes are different.
So black guys go to Sweden and get warm responses from the girls they're attracted to. White guys go, have a smaller pool they are attracted to, and also have to work harder to get it. This is just my hypothesis, and to test it out I will unfortunately have to go to Sweden one day, preferably after I forget how bad Denmark was.
Quote: (09-10-2011 03:37 PM)Global Baller Wrote:
Quote: (09-10-2011 08:52 AM)Roosh Wrote:
The positive reports are coming from black guys while neutral or negative reports are coming from white guys. I believe there are two reasons for this:
1. Black guys (from USA) have it easier. This topic has been discussed here. White guys, especially ones that look Swedish with fair features, have to work for it, perhaps harder than places with more attractive women in Eastern Europe.
2. Black guys and white guys don't view white girls the same way. White guys value face just as much (if not more) than body. Black guys value a white girl's body more than her face, generally preferring thickness. Nothing is wrong with that, but there is not a lot of overlap of what white and black guys would prefer in Sweden. Tastes are different.
So black guys go to Sweden and get warm responses from the girls they're attracted to. White guys go, have a smaller pool they are attracted to, and also have to work harder to get it. This is just my hypothesis, and to test it out I will unfortunately have to go to Sweden one day, preferably after I forget how bad Denmark was.
I can't speak for all brothas...but, I like a more Nordic-type look as opposed to an Anglo-Saxon look. Hard to explain, but to give an idea of what type of look that I'm down with, peep the girl in the middle of the pic (the girl wearing glasses is juicy too):
http://bp1.blogger.com/_I7bteuPdwDM/R7MS...G_0047.JPG
I do, however, agree that Black American guys melt the panties off Nordic women.
Quote: (09-10-2011 03:37 PM)Global Baller Wrote:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_I7bteuPdwDM/R7MS...G_0047.JPG
Quote: (09-10-2011 03:31 PM)rakishness Wrote:
Quote: (09-10-2011 02:32 PM)torontokid Wrote:
Here's the club I visited. Free entry because my friends signed all of on the online guest list.
http://www.collagestockholm.com/blogg/category/bilder/
What does the forum think of these girls?
Wow. If Swedish women are on average a 4. Then women in DC are on average a NEGATIVE 40! Got Damn!
Quote: (09-10-2011 04:40 PM)torontokid Wrote:
Yeah, they put Toronto talent to shame too.
Vicous, whats your input on the clubs quality?
Quote: (09-10-2011 05:43 PM)DadaLand Wrote:
I live in Sweden, Malmoe more precisely..And Lumiere is right, the average swedish girl isn´t beautiful. A 5, top 6 at best. What you guys see at Stureplan and Östermalm are girls from high society. Crem alá crem. Semi-models, famous bloggers, C-D celebrities etc.
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Once you hit the streets, and leave the urban area. You will witness pretty fast that Swedish girls aren´t more average than lets say, Cali girls.
Quote: (09-10-2011 06:39 PM)Vicious Wrote:
Quote: (09-10-2011 04:40 PM)torontokid Wrote:
Yeah, they put Toronto talent to shame too.
Vicous, whats your input on the clubs quality?
I avoid clubs unless it's early in the evening or I have an "in" like the places in GBG where I'm VIP. Comparing those places to the one in the link I'd say the one in the link doesn't have all that much going for it with regard to quality talent.
Quote: (09-10-2011 05:43 PM)DadaLand Wrote:
I live in Sweden, Malmoe more precisely..And Lumiere is right, the average swedish girl isn´t beautiful. A 5, top 6 at best. What you guys see at Stureplan and Östermalm are girls from high society. Crem alá crem. Semi-models, famous bloggers, C-D celebrities etc.
Are you Swedish or do you just live in Sweden? Either way I have to say I don't agree at all with your assessment on Stureplan/Östermalms nightlife population. Your view is the one I hear from the typical out-of-towner looking in at the Stockholm scene. The math just doesn't work out! There are probably 4000-5000 people in all the of the circa two dozen clubs/restaurants in this area on any given Saturday. Maybe 2-3% make up high society, models and celebs (that's still >100 people!), the rest are just hang-arounds, wannabes and regular people. The ones the clubs make their money on.
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Once you hit the streets, and leave the urban area. You will witness pretty fast that Swedish girls aren´t more average than lets say, Cali girls.
From the way you phrase it I don't really understand which way you're going here (what does aren't more average mean?). But comparing Swedish girls to the ones in California??? I just came back from Las Vegas and having dealt with the Cali girls for a week I can think of more and stronger similarities between Swedish girls and Brazilians than Cali...
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What does the forum think of these girls?
Quote: (09-10-2011 10:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:
Personally, I dislike Stockholm. I consider it a cliquish, shallow cesspool made up of a few genuine successful people and their throngs of hang-around wannabes and their inflated opinion of their station.
Quote: (09-10-2011 10:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:
Lumiere:
Wow, you must have really had some extremely bad experiences considering how low you rate the Swedish girls..