[Wreckingball]

(08-18-2017 09:05 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Is it me, or is that a massive shit load of gas cannisters?

[Wreckingball]

Another knifing in Wuppertal, Germany.

[C-Note]

So, they were going to load up the van with gas canisters and blow it up, but when they blew up their own house, they just used the same van as a ram?

[redpillage]

(08-18-2017 11:18 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(08-16-2017 11:25 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

One third of Barcelona residents are islamic. Around 500k for a total population of 1,5M.

That just isn't true mate, Muslims account for less than 10% of the population, and 10% is being incredibly generous since a census revealed 5% in 2014. I hate what's happening in Europe as much as everyone else, but those figures are nonsense.

I would agree there. Last I was there was about two or three yeas ago and I didn't notice a strong Muslim presence while there. And you all know if anyone I would be the one to take notes ;-)

On the other hand Cataluña has been pushing extremely hard for ME immigration and even went so far as to repeatedly demand for more refugees to be brought to Spain:

Quote:

Barcelona acoge hoy "la primera gran manifestación europea" pro refugiados

Barcelona, 18 feb (EFE).- Barcelona quiere acoger hoy en sus calles "la primera gran manifestación de Europa" en favor de los refugiados, según sus organizadores, que cuentan con el apoyo de casi todo el Parlamento catalán.

Bajo el lema "Volem acollir" (Queremos acoger, en lengua catalana), la movilización transcurrirá esta tarde por el centro de la ciudad para dirigirse hacia el parque de la Barceloneta, en el Paseo Marítimo, según los convocantes.

Una pancarta con el lema "Basta de excusas. ¡Acojamos ahora!", sostenida por un grupo de inmigrantes, encabezará la concentración.

Convocada por la campaña "Casa Nostra, Casa Vostra", esta ambiciosa concentración pretende defender el derecho al refugio y apelar al "compromiso de todas las instituciones con la acogida" de las personas refugiadas.

La alcaldesa de Barcelona, Ada Colau, y otro centenar de ediles de importantes ciudades catalanas hicieron esta semana un llamamiento a los vecinos para que acudan a la manifestación.

Todas las formaciones catalanas, salvo la rama catalana del Partido Popular (en el Gobierno de España) han manifestado su apoyo a la manifestación y/o han anunciado que estarán presentes.

Entidades contra el racismo y pro inmigración como las ONG Proactiva Open Arms, SOS Racisme, la campaña Tanquem els CIE, Stop Mare Mortum o Papeles para todos, también asistirán.

"Casa Nostra, Casa Vostra" ha organizado un acto festivo al final de la marcha con la participación de la popular compañía de teatro "La Fura dels Baus". EFE

There were many other events like these and basically Catalans on average are extremely supportive of Islamic migration into their region which they see as another opportunity to thumb their noses at Madrid and the rest of Spain and to discourage Spanish speaking South American migrants (which someone already rightly pointed out).

In short, as upset I am about this, I saw this one coming a long time ago and was actually surprised it hasn't happened a lot earlier. Most likely only thanks to the valiant efforts of the Mossos d'Esquadra who are among the most effective police forces in all of Europe along with the Guardia Civil and the Cuerpo Nacional de Policia. The Spanish haven't invented work but, when permitted/enabled, they are extremely good at being police.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I guess Barcelona deserves daily enriching attacks until it disappears into Dhimmitude:

LIVE FEED:

A few men tried to protest against Islam and Islamic violence, but they were instantly beset by violent leftists who even attacked them physically and they were recorded by scores of fakestream camera crews:

[url=https://twitter.com/i/web/status/898595415423057924][/url]

I think that the people deserve their own extermination.

[Elster]

Yeah read earlier today that as soon as the "right" wingers set a date and place for their demonstration there was an alt-left one nearby.

A bit suspicious that suddenly "extreme" parties are battling it out in Spain of all places and so soon after VA too...?

[Going strong]

And there's just been another Islamist terror attack, this time in... Finland. Even in far-away Finland! Nowhere in Europe are normal people safe from these virgin, piece-of-shit terrorists!

We can't even keep track of all the attacks occurring, but one thing is sure, Mutti Angela started it all, when she opened Europe's borders wide. That's when most terrorists entered, unchecked.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40978446
"Interior Minister Paula Risikko described the suspect as "foreign-looking" and linked the attack to the murder of 14 people in Barcelona"

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-18-2017 01:31 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

And there's just been another Islamist terror attack, this time in... Finland. Even in far-away Finland! Nowhere in Europe are normal people safe from these virgin, piece-of-shit terrorists!

We can't even keep track of all the attacks occurring, but one thing is sure, Mutti Angela started it all, when she opened Europe's borders wide. That's when most terrorists entered, unchecked.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40978446
"Interior Minister Paula Risikko described the suspect as "foreign-looking" and linked the attack to the murder of 14 people in Barcelona"

Mother killed who was walking with her baby in a stroller.

Islamic brutality and disregard for the Kuffars.

[balybary]

(08-18-2017 12:31 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I guess Barcelona deserves daily enriching attacks until it disappears into Dhimmitude:

LIVE FEED:

A few men tried to protest against Islam and Islamic violence, but they were instantly beset by violent leftists who even attacked them physically and they were recorded by scores of fakestream camera crews:

[url=https://twitter.com/i/web/status/898595415423057924][/url]

I think that the people deserve their own extermination.

On that video, the leftists/globalists are singing No pasarán (against the nationalists /patriots not against the muslims-fascists).

They shall not pass...

Do they know how it has ended for them?

Quote:

It was also used during the Spanish Civil War, this time at the Siege of Madrid by Dolores Ibárruri Gómez, a member of the Communist Party of Spain, in her famous "No pasarán" speech on 18 July 1936. The leader of the nationalist forces, Generalísimo Francisco Franco, upon gaining Madrid, responded to this slogan by saying "Hemos pasado" ("We have passed").

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Vigils in place:



Here you see the van driving through the crowds - very fast:

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Chief Rabbi of Barcelona:

Quote:

Part of the problem exposed by the attacks, Bar-Hen said, is the presence of a large Muslim community with “radical fringes.” Once these people are “living among you,” he said of terrorists and their supporters, “it’s very difficult to get rid of them. They only get stronger.” He also said this applied to Europe as a whole. “Europe is lost,” he said.

read more: [url=http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.807706]http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.807706

Quote:

Bar-Hen also charged that authorities and some politicians are reluctant to confront Islamist terrorism. He cited the government’s decision in April to allow Leila Khaled, a Palestinian terrorist who was convicted in a plot to  hijacking an airplane in 1969, to enter the country for  book festival. This showed authorities “do not understand the nature of terrorism, if they treat it as an action by the disenfranchised,” Bar-Hen said.

No shit - this Rabbi sounds like Tommy Robbinson - will get a call from above I guess.

Quote:

On Friday, Colau Ballano wrote on Facebook: “Barcelona is a city of peace. Terror will not make us stop being who we are: a brave city open to the world.” She urged readers to show up at a solidarity rally that day.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.807706

That is the mayor speaking - they are truly lost - stupid morons.

[balybary]

According to some media the van driver / terrorist / islamo-fascist / goat fucker / donkey ball sucker is dead

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2...st-updates

Quote:

An official with Spain’s police union has backed up earlier reports that the teenager suspected of driving the van into crowds of pedestrians on Las Ramblas was shot dead by police during the shootout in Cambrils on Friday morning. Spanish media reported earlier on Friday that Moussa Oukabir, 17, was among the five men killed by officers after a second vehicle attack. Now, a union official has told AP colleagues in the Civil Guard police force confirmed to him Oukabir was killed in the Cambrils incident. Investigators believe Oukabir was behind the wheel of the van which ploughed into tourists in Barcelona’s city centre on Thursday, killing at least 13 and injuring 100.

[balybary]

The police is still looking after 4 terrorists, they sould send the policeman that have already killed 4 of them, he wants to practice shooting on moving target a little more.

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/busi...10002.html

Quote:

A French security official says Spanish police are looking for a Kangoo utility vehicle rented by suspects in the Barcelona attacks that may have crossed into France.

The official said Spanish police alerted French authorities to the vehicle, rented Thursday in Spain. The official said French police nationwide are on the lookout for the car, and were given information from Spain about four suspects believed to be on the run.

The official was not authorized to be publicly named speaking of an ongoing manhunt.

After two deadly vehicle attacks in Barcelona and a nearby resort, France's interior minister said his country reinforced police surveillance Friday of what is normally an open border between Spain and France. French officials said Friday evening that no one has been detained so far in the Spanish investigation.

The attacks Thursday and early Friday in Spain killed 14 people and wounded 126 others.

[balybary]

The current death toll is 15 victims,

The dead guy the police have found in a car in Barcelona was an hostage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rrest.html

Quote:

Man 'shot dead by police' at Barcelona roadblock was ALREADY dead and had been killed by jihadist suspect who stole his car and left his body on the passenger seat
A suspect - believed to be a 34-year-old Moroccan man - arrested in Ripoll
Police have said he could be the driver of a car that rammed into a police barrier
It is now thought the driver who was reported to be shot was actually the owner
He is said to not be connected to the terror attacks but was found stabbed in car

[Mage]

(08-18-2017 09:49 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

A different perspective.

Why does the god of the jews and muslims behave like an irrational vain narcissist who demands total obedience and worship?

Could it be he is not God, but an imposter? Yaweh was called Baal in biblical times.

Jesus was sent to put man back on the path of goodness and expose the fallen angel calling himself god, the demiurge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge#Gnosticism

Frankly I have never understood why any God needs to be worshiped. Being a good person should be enough. A good God should be emulated and not worshiped. Christians worship their God too. They do not emulate Jesus, they worship him. If they emulated Jesus they would have to read the books he read, try to fast for prolonged time and so on. When I did my best to study Judaism from Jesus perspective I come to conclusions rediscovered for modern times trough Kabbalah.

On topic of Gnosticism - doesn't Gnosticism teach that Jesus was sent by some female deity? Making it a female-worshiping religion? I got the impression they were feminists and liberals of their time. Either abstaining from all sex or practicing free sex without marriage. Also Jesus directly mentions that he was sent by father. Implying that same God of Old Testament that gnostics call demiurge. He never mentions any mother of his aside Mary. Jesus said he came to fulfill the Scripture. While it might or might not mean he is the son of God it definitely means he is not against the God of that scripture. How do Gnostics explain all this?

Baal just means - "Lord" in Jewish. Depending on your perspective you can be calling any diety or demon a Lord.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-18-2017 02:52 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:49 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

A different perspective.

Why does the god of the jews and muslims behave like an irrational vain narcissist who demands total obedience and worship?

Could it be he is not God, but an imposter? Yaweh was called Baal in biblical times.

Jesus was sent to put man back on the path of goodness and expose the fallen angel calling himself god, the demiurge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge#Gnosticism

Frankly I have never understood why any God needs to be worshiped. Being a good person should be enough. A good God should be emulated and not worshiped. Christians worship their God too. They do not emulate Jesus, they worship him. If they emulated Jesus they would have to read the books he read, try to fast for prolonged time and so on. When I did my best to study Judaism from Jesus perspective I come to conclusions rediscovered for modern times trough Kabbalah.

On topic of Gnosticism - doesn't Gnosticism teach that Jesus was sent by some female deity? Making it a female-worshiping religion? I got the impression they were feminists and liberals of their time. Either abstaining from all sex or practicing free sex without marriage. Also Jesus directly mentions that he was sent by father. Implying that same God of Old Testament that gnostics call demiurge. He never mentions any mother of his aside Mary. Jesus said he came to fulfill the Scripture. While it might or might not mean he is the son of God it definitely means he is not against the God of that scripture. How do Gnostics explain all this?

Baal just means - "Lord" in Jewish. Depending on your perspective you can be calling any diety or demon a Lord.

The accounts of what Gnostic Christianity was or wasn't ranges from pure human-sacrificing satanism to more spiritual sects of early Christians. Maybe there were even different offshoots or the church did some good anti-gnostic propaganda. One offshoot of Gnostics were certainly highly spiritual and simply taught that Jesus was a spiritual master. As soul he was a son of God figuratively speaking just as any soul is a child of God. In time and spiritual perfection anyone could attain a divine consciousness similar to a spiritual adept. Of course that would also go counter towards the church which wanted to legitimize a learned conventional hierarchy. A spiritual hierarchy would look different - the one with the highest consciousness being at the top and also then being able to choose his successors as well as the upper leadership on terms of spiritual consciousness.

As for God not needing worship - absolutely correct - if there is a divine consciousness, then worship or submission is a primitive tribal understanding of such a being. It would suffice for soul to listen to the Voice of God - for it's own sake.

We could start a thread about the merits, strength and weaknesses of all religions and minor paths, but this has little to do with this topic.

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I would also like to point out that I would not trust the brother of the terrorist - the first one who got supposedly his passport stolen. There is no way in hell that he did not know at least that something was wrong with his little brother.

[Foolsgo1d]

(08-18-2017 12:04 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

So, they were going to load up the van with gas canisters and blow it up, but when they blew up their own house, they just used the same van as a ram?

Yes.

They would have loaded it with nails and other shit to maximise the spread of carnage. You would have seen people shredded to pieces at 100 yards away easily and it was definitely a popular tourist area they were going to hit.

They had to move quickly because their cover was blown, literally, the moment the cylinders went off and took out the house. The best laid plans and all that.

The fact nobody knew about it even after the hosue blew up should tell you everything about our security services. There are too many of them to track. Not that we should be tracking them but putting them in cages for the rest of their lives or booting them back to where they came from.

[Troller]

"In 2014, 322,698 people in the province of Barcelona identified as Muslims, including 217,405 immigrants and 105,293 Spanish citizens.[3][7]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Barcelona

"The municipality of Salt, a town near Barcelona where Muslim immigrants now make up 40% of the population, has approved a one-year ban on the construction of new mosques. It is the first ban of its kind in Spain."

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2394/...l-islamism

[Sidney Crosby]

So have people changed their facebook profile pictures to a Spanish flag yet?

[Rocha]

Non related but just a few days ago, muslims doing muslim stuff in Lloret del Mar, 70 kms from Barcelona. An Italian 22 year old kid, got killed with a soccer kick while grounded on the floor by a Chechen, after a brawl between his friends and 3 of the later, for apparently no reason at all, bystanders said it might be for a push in the dancefloor.
The Chechen's are refugees in France....

NSFW

[Disco_Volante]

Chechens seem to be the most capable and ruthless killers, probably a bit smarter than the typical sunni. They're a cancer it's a shame Russia let so many of them move into their great cities. I don't know how you could live near them if you had to encounter them with any frequency.

[Rocha]

(08-18-2017 07:48 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Chechens seem to be the most capable and ruthless killers, probably a bit smarter than the typical sunni. They're a cancer it's a shame Russia let so many of them move into their great cities. I don't know how you could live near them if you had to encounter them with any frequency.

They are actually moderate in general...but those mofos from the Caucasus are a different breed of people, violence is in their blood. Only people I am truly scared and back off immefiately. Europe should get none of them too.

[infowarrior1]

(08-18-2017 02:52 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 09:49 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

A different perspective.

Why does the god of the jews and muslims behave like an irrational vain narcissist who demands total obedience and worship?

Could it be he is not God, but an imposter? Yaweh was called Baal in biblical times.

Jesus was sent to put man back on the path of goodness and expose the fallen angel calling himself god, the demiurge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge#Gnosticism

Frankly I have never understood why any God needs to be worshiped. Being a good person should be enough. A good God should be emulated and not worshiped. Christians worship their God too. They do not emulate Jesus, they worship him. If they emulated Jesus they would have to read the books he read, try to fast for prolonged time and so on. When I did my best to study Judaism from Jesus perspective I come to conclusions rediscovered for modern times trough Kabbalah.

On topic of Gnosticism - doesn't Gnosticism teach that Jesus was sent by some female deity? Making it a female-worshiping religion? I got the impression they were feminists and liberals of their time. Either abstaining from all sex or practicing free sex without marriage. Also Jesus directly mentions that he was sent by father. Implying that same God of Old Testament that gnostics call demiurge. He never mentions any mother of his aside Mary. Jesus said he came to fulfill the Scripture. While it might or might not mean he is the son of God it definitely means he is not against the God of that scripture. How do Gnostics explain all this?

Baal just means - "Lord" in Jewish. Depending on your perspective you can be calling any diety or demon a Lord.

It is because worship is an act of submission. Serving in a soup kitchen is worship and obeying God is an act of worship. It is to acknowledge the rightful and everlasting King's claim over yourself.

That's why sacrifices make sense because although God doesn't really need it. Its a form of tribute. And used to symbolize the final sacrifice of Christ.

Its not simply music or singing or Psalms. Its not a love song to Jesus or whatever.

Humans are made in the Image of God and thereby have duties in accordance with that nature as well as privileges and rights. This is why murder is such a heinous crime.

We as his representatives are to manifest his will in our lives. In imitating God we fulfill our purpose for which we are created. We are to be Godlike and worship is integral in becoming Godlike as well as culminating in union with his divine nature(2 Peter 1:4). That's why being righteous is called being Godly.

Also falling short of the purpose of what we are created for is called sin which is also called "missing the mark'' or "falling short of the Glory of God''. To do evil is to act beneath our dignity and station. And to fail in our purpose to be the Image and Glory of God.



http://www.tektonics.org/whatis/whatworship.php

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-18-2017 08:47 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:48 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Chechens seem to be the most capable and ruthless killers, probably a bit smarter than the typical sunni. They're a cancer it's a shame Russia let so many of them move into their great cities. I don't know how you could live near them if you had to encounter them with any frequency.

They are actually moderate in general...but those mofos from the Caucasus are a different breed of people, violence is in their blood. Only people I am truly scared and back off immefiately. Europe should get none of them too.

Chechens are a scourge. They have only a few thousand refugees of them together with Ukrainians in Poland and I saw a report that they instantly terrorize Polish cities and the other Ukrainians. They create a mini-sharia zone and are very violent against anyone.

It's Islam stupid - it's always Islam - as soon as the minds are poisoned, the people are becoming a violent inbred primitive shitheap.

[infowarrior1]

(08-19-2017 02:29 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:47 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:48 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Chechens seem to be the most capable and ruthless killers, probably a bit smarter than the typical sunni. They're a cancer it's a shame Russia let so many of them move into their great cities. I don't know how you could live near them if you had to encounter them with any frequency.

They are actually moderate in general...but those mofos from the Caucasus are a different breed of people, violence is in their blood. Only people I am truly scared and back off immefiately. Europe should get none of them too.

Chechens are a scourge. They have only a few thousand refugees of them together with Ukrainians in Poland and I saw a report that they instantly terrorize Polish cities and the other Ukrainians. They create a mini-sharia zone and are very violent against anyone.

It's Islam stupid - it's always Islam - as soon as the minds are poisoned, the people are becoming a violent inbred primitive shitheap.

Chechens are the crack troops of Islam. Yet Arabs and other middle eastern peoples seem pretty awful fighters in comparison. Why do you think that is?

[balybary]

The police now thinks that Moussa Oukabir, 17 years old, was not the driver who kill many people in Barcelona.

The police has not given the name of the main suspect, but they are looking for a guy called Younes Abouyaaqoub, 22 years old.



He is on the right side of this photo:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/...oub-final/

Quote:

Police officials confirmed that 11 of the 12 man terror cell had either been killed or detained.

This means Younes Abouyaaqoub, on the run, is the final missing suspect.

Police also advised that while they know of 12 people in the terror cell, they cannot be absolutely certain there were no others involved.

Speaking to The Telegraph, a young woman who asked to remain anonymous said that she had gone to school with Abouyaaqoub, adding: "Younes was a shy boy, I have said this to others. I did not think he could do something like this."

Another local told the Catalonian newspaper La Vanguardia that Abouyaaqoub had associated with a group of men of Moroccan descent from varying age groups, including Hychami, who he said was two years older and more "boastful".

The problem when you have a massive muslim population in a country (like Spain, France, Belgium....) is that it's easy for the terrorists to hide among their brothers in faith.