[NordicTom]

Has anyone here used Miss Travel or a similar website for having girls come to you, for example during a business trip or when you travel alone? I'm guessing game principles would be similar to Seeking Arrangement game, but with a travel element added. Flight tickets nowadays are cheap enough that it doesn't need to be a big issue (may not have to be more expensive than taking her to a nice dinner) to pay for hers, especially if you're on a business trip where you have expenses and hotels paid by your employer. Haven't tried myself yet. Curious to hear from other members.

[Themin]

mostly pros, but you can find the occasional gems

[david.garrett84]

(08-10-2017 04:19 AM)NordicTom Wrote:  

Has anyone here used Miss Travel or a similar website for having girls come to you, for example during a business trip or when you travel alone? I'm guessing game principles would be similar to Seeking Arrangement game, but with a travel element added. Flight tickets nowadays are cheap enough that it doesn't need to be a big issue (may not have to be more expensive than taking her to a nice dinner) to pay for hers, especially if you're on a business trip where you have expenses and hotels paid by your employer. Haven't tried myself yet. Curious to hear from other members.

Can someone explain how this just isn't sugar-daddying? Or prostitution by another name?

We've all read Bang and should have the tools to bed women. I don't pretend to be the most game-minded poster on the forum, but in my life I've only ever paid for the flights of two girls I've fucked. And that's because they had already done me substantial favors beforehand.

I think the only way for this NOT to be literally sugar-daddying is to do what Kyle Trouble (or another ROK author, I forget which one) did: pretend (or be) a cashed-up guy and invite the girls to your pad/hotel. They will often fuck you with the expectation of an ongoing arrangement, without you ever forking out for that arrangement because you move on.

I'm surprised the nominally conservative (and Jared Kushner-owned) Observer called this "scamming" (women feign interest in long-term romance/convenience all the time) but this Jewish guy in NYC was already onto it long ago: http://observer.com/2013/03/the-hebrew-hammer/

Moreover, as soon as you mix company/business trips and girls for whom you are paying, expect trouble. It can easily fuck your career up, particularly if the employer perceives you are exploiting a situation involving you working for them. It doesn't matter how much work you get done and to what quality. Almost every (female-dominated) HR department will consider it double-dipping, irrespective of the actual legalities.

Either approach girls in bars on your business trip or get them to pay their own way there.

[This Is Trouble]

^ Yep, that was me: http://www.returnofkings.com/93057/how-t...ting-sites

[david.garrett84]

(08-10-2017 06:49 AM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  

^ Yep, that was me: http://www.returnofkings.com/93057/how-t...ting-sites

And you mentioned it here, too, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu8RqNFn2_U I listened to the podcast on a flight to Vienna in April and recall something like it.

I have never used Sugar Daddy sites to game girls, but if anyone is going to, your advice is the best.

Some guys with higher rep than me might come along here and say that paying for girls' flights etc has worked wonders for them, but I think most guys can and should do without such extra expenses.

Well before I knew who Roosh was and when Neil Strauss' book was sitting on my bookshelf without ever having been read, I was already getting girls to travel hundreds of miles at their own expense to come see me in Madrid, Munich, or London. And I was comparatively hamfisted and clueless then.

I'm not saying guys should be Scrooges, but most of the time I see the purchasing of plane tickets for girls you will probably see once, twice or thrice in your life as an example of poor frame. Correct me on any exceptions, by all means.

[NordicTom]

I guess I was hoping it would/could be more "innocent" than SA. A matchmaking site with regular girls actually just wanting an opportunity to travel. To me paying for someone's flight tickets is very far from P4P - I've always paid for most of my girlfriends' holidays (when they travel with me). When you date girls 15-22 years your junior and don't want to stay in hostels and eat fast food you really don't have much of a choice.