Has anyone here taken improv classes? Did they help you with your social skills or game?
I'm interested in taking a class and want to know if its worth my time.
I'm interested in taking a class and want to know if its worth my time.
Improv Classes
I've taken acting and improv classes in the past and found them helpful to stretch my range, both emotionally and physically. For people who feel somewhat more shy / introverted (as I certainly identified more as during high school and my twenties) it was a great overall experience.
One caution I can offer is that the dramatic arts attract SJW types who want to act out their fantasies. If you go in with a solid core and maintain it then you can keep your identity while exploring possibilities of self-expression. It's a tool that can either expand or collapse your consciousness and sense of freedom which absolutely can help you game in other aspects of your life.
I find now that by pretending to be different people or roles via acting and especially improv you can see your fuller human potential. I can now call up accents very easily and be 'in character' on the spot which can break tension, makes women laugh and draw them in. Improv can help make it easier to engage groups in a natural way as that great thread 'pulling from sets of 5 or more' is discussing. Group dynamics are fascinating and watching yourself while also engaging with others is rewarding. Like any new activity that isn't highly structured, the more you do it the easier and more fun it gets. When you think about it, Life IS improv so you're curious about life and getting be most from it!
As an important counter-balance, I would recommend you pair any improv with a solid masculine practice like meditation, martial arts, sports, boxing, etc., as theater is more of a feminine / outwardly expressive / non-goal-oriented rather than solitary / inner-directly / purposeful pursuit.
Have fun and please share your experiences if you do it.
One caution I can offer is that the dramatic arts attract SJW types who want to act out their fantasies. If you go in with a solid core and maintain it then you can keep your identity while exploring possibilities of self-expression. It's a tool that can either expand or collapse your consciousness and sense of freedom which absolutely can help you game in other aspects of your life.
I find now that by pretending to be different people or roles via acting and especially improv you can see your fuller human potential. I can now call up accents very easily and be 'in character' on the spot which can break tension, makes women laugh and draw them in. Improv can help make it easier to engage groups in a natural way as that great thread 'pulling from sets of 5 or more' is discussing. Group dynamics are fascinating and watching yourself while also engaging with others is rewarding. Like any new activity that isn't highly structured, the more you do it the easier and more fun it gets. When you think about it, Life IS improv so you're curious about life and getting be most from it!
As an important counter-balance, I would recommend you pair any improv with a solid masculine practice like meditation, martial arts, sports, boxing, etc., as theater is more of a feminine / outwardly expressive / non-goal-oriented rather than solitary / inner-directly / purposeful pursuit.
Have fun and please share your experiences if you do it.
I would definitely recommend taking improv classes. It forces you to come to certain realizations and think on the spot. I'm finishing up a level 1 class, and then I'm heading on to a level 2 class before Summer's over. It's helped me in a lot of ways.
I've come to realize that:
-Feeling uncomfortable is completely natural. Everyone has their own way of dealing with nerves, and this shows when you're offstage and watching other people perform. You can still take action and say things despite feeling nervous.
-There is plenty of things you can say, but if you've gotten so used to hiding your real thoughts, censoring yourself, and judging your choices in conversation, you may have convinced yourself you have nothing to add when you really do
-When you're in your head, you're no longer present in what's going on around you. You're not paying attention to how other people are reacting or feeling, and instead are focusing most of your attention towards your own thoughts
-Instead of hearing someone else's choice/joke and saying, "no, this is fucking stupid, I'm not going to do it", it's more interesting to play along and just see where it goes
-Sometimes you are the one leading the scene, and sometimes someone else is. You don't want to hog the spotlight forever, but you also don't want to stay silent the whole time, otherwise the other people have to do all the work
-You can bomb and have no one laugh during your entire stint. Even if it feels awkward at the time, no one really cares in the long run
-Even when you come in with a plan, it could be gone in the next few seconds. Maybe you forgot it or something happened you didn't predict. Either way, you have to come up with something and keep going
It's helped me to loosen up more and play along with other people's sense of humor. I would heavily recommend you check it out.
I've come to realize that:
-Feeling uncomfortable is completely natural. Everyone has their own way of dealing with nerves, and this shows when you're offstage and watching other people perform. You can still take action and say things despite feeling nervous.
-There is plenty of things you can say, but if you've gotten so used to hiding your real thoughts, censoring yourself, and judging your choices in conversation, you may have convinced yourself you have nothing to add when you really do
-When you're in your head, you're no longer present in what's going on around you. You're not paying attention to how other people are reacting or feeling, and instead are focusing most of your attention towards your own thoughts
-Instead of hearing someone else's choice/joke and saying, "no, this is fucking stupid, I'm not going to do it", it's more interesting to play along and just see where it goes
-Sometimes you are the one leading the scene, and sometimes someone else is. You don't want to hog the spotlight forever, but you also don't want to stay silent the whole time, otherwise the other people have to do all the work
-You can bomb and have no one laugh during your entire stint. Even if it feels awkward at the time, no one really cares in the long run
-Even when you come in with a plan, it could be gone in the next few seconds. Maybe you forgot it or something happened you didn't predict. Either way, you have to come up with something and keep going
It's helped me to loosen up more and play along with other people's sense of humor. I would heavily recommend you check it out.
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I'd say improv or acting classes are well worth it as long as you're not spending a lot of money. They can give great confidence to an individual, and you can meet some good looking chicks some times.
I wonder how many guys are in the class for girls/pua. A few years ago I was taking a public speaking class and I decided to do a speech on Improv(i was thinking about taking it at the time). My public speaking teacher was this older black chick and she cracked a joke about the real reason for taking the class was for game/pua. I was like "shit.... shes 100% right!"
Quote: (07-05-2017 02:43 PM)The Wire Wrote:
I wonder how many guys are in the class for girls/pua. A few years ago I was taking a public speaking class and I decided to do a speech on Improv(i was thinking about taking it at the time). My public speaking teacher was this older black chick and she cracked a joke about the real reason for taking the class was for game/pua. I was like "shit.... shes 100% right!"
She actually used the word PUA? She is probably right.
Quote: (07-09-2017 10:42 AM)Iso Wrote:
Quote: (07-05-2017 02:43 PM)The Wire Wrote:
I wonder how many guys are in the class for girls/pua. A few years ago I was taking a public speaking class and I decided to do a speech on Improv(i was thinking about taking it at the time). My public speaking teacher was this older black chick and she cracked a joke about the real reason for taking the class was for game/pua. I was like "shit.... shes 100% right!"
She actually used the word PUA? She is probably right.
I think the exact words were "picking up girls". But if she was able to make a joke about that connection, a person who is completely removed from that scene the classes must be overran with guys using it for game or just to pick up the girls in the classes themselves. I've read about improve classes on a ton of pua blogs. The love system guys have talked about it a ton.
One of the first things you learn in improv class is that you NEVER disagree or block your partner (this could apply to your target or wingman).
You have to learn how to go from anything in the world, any situation, any dialogue, anything, and make it positive and move forward. This is GOLD!!!
As it was explained to me by my teacher(s), people in the audience didn't come to see people argue. Sure, there can be conflict, but few people want to pay to see an argument. So...
Especially in the first class as they weed out the troublemakers who aren't really interested, you learn how to take the craziest shit you can imagine... ideas, situations, and utter nonsense that you get from these people and others... and take it and turn it into something useful and positive. This is perhaps the best training I can think of for dealing with women. You can take any bullshit and learn how to avoid an argument or confrontation and lead it to your ultimate goal.
There is the famous line... "Yes, and..." This is what you say no matter what you disagree with. Because disagreeing stops you from moving forward. Disagreeing stops you from being able to get back to your or her bed where you can finally give her the attention she's been asking for.
So, when both of you are up on stage and you're pretending to be something (like a farmer or some shit) and she's pretending to be something or saying something that fucks with the setup, you learn to master the art of (in real life) not arguing but instead dealing with this setup and moving it toward something else closer to your goal.
This is very much similar to not liking something and then changing venues. "The food sucks here"... "Yeah, and I heard they have even better fries and desert across the street"... or ... "Yeah, and you won't believe the desert I left in the oven waiting for us (back at my place)"... or ... "Yeah, and ... (fill in the blank)" You get it.
The point is to train yourself not to fall into bullshit negative nonsense but to acknowledge what she's saying and then go with it to the extent that you can but also take the conversation in the direction you want it to go to the best of your ability, building off of what she says.
This is just a sliver of what improv can do for you. All of this is one class although the technique is repeated and built upon.
This is where you would reply to this post and say...
"Yeah, and I can't wait to start classes." or "Yeah, and it sounds like I could use that at the club." etc.
And I would say, "Yes.... and the SJWs that Truth Tiger spoke about are great to work off of as they're the same ones you might have to deal with in real life. It's definitely good training in many ways."
My class was FILLED with hardcode liberals. It was like learning to dance on a minefield. You'll be fine though, and you'll come out a better and much more confident man regardless or how confident you think you are now. Just like the going to the gym or doing your approaches, you'll get better the more you do it. Keep going. At least finish the first set of classes. You may be tempted to quit the first day or two, but keep doing it. It's also helps you think on your feet.
Remember those guys on "Whose line is it anyway?" They could probably talk to anyone with virtually zero prep. That's my point. If they had game, they'd be largely unstoppable. Game + Improv + Humor = a powerful force.
You have to learn how to go from anything in the world, any situation, any dialogue, anything, and make it positive and move forward. This is GOLD!!!
As it was explained to me by my teacher(s), people in the audience didn't come to see people argue. Sure, there can be conflict, but few people want to pay to see an argument. So...
Especially in the first class as they weed out the troublemakers who aren't really interested, you learn how to take the craziest shit you can imagine... ideas, situations, and utter nonsense that you get from these people and others... and take it and turn it into something useful and positive. This is perhaps the best training I can think of for dealing with women. You can take any bullshit and learn how to avoid an argument or confrontation and lead it to your ultimate goal.
There is the famous line... "Yes, and..." This is what you say no matter what you disagree with. Because disagreeing stops you from moving forward. Disagreeing stops you from being able to get back to your or her bed where you can finally give her the attention she's been asking for.
So, when both of you are up on stage and you're pretending to be something (like a farmer or some shit) and she's pretending to be something or saying something that fucks with the setup, you learn to master the art of (in real life) not arguing but instead dealing with this setup and moving it toward something else closer to your goal.
This is very much similar to not liking something and then changing venues. "The food sucks here"... "Yeah, and I heard they have even better fries and desert across the street"... or ... "Yeah, and you won't believe the desert I left in the oven waiting for us (back at my place)"... or ... "Yeah, and ... (fill in the blank)" You get it.
The point is to train yourself not to fall into bullshit negative nonsense but to acknowledge what she's saying and then go with it to the extent that you can but also take the conversation in the direction you want it to go to the best of your ability, building off of what she says.
This is just a sliver of what improv can do for you. All of this is one class although the technique is repeated and built upon.
This is where you would reply to this post and say...
"Yeah, and I can't wait to start classes." or "Yeah, and it sounds like I could use that at the club." etc.
And I would say, "Yes.... and the SJWs that Truth Tiger spoke about are great to work off of as they're the same ones you might have to deal with in real life. It's definitely good training in many ways."
My class was FILLED with hardcode liberals. It was like learning to dance on a minefield. You'll be fine though, and you'll come out a better and much more confident man regardless or how confident you think you are now. Just like the going to the gym or doing your approaches, you'll get better the more you do it. Keep going. At least finish the first set of classes. You may be tempted to quit the first day or two, but keep doing it. It's also helps you think on your feet.
Remember those guys on "Whose line is it anyway?" They could probably talk to anyone with virtually zero prep. That's my point. If they had game, they'd be largely unstoppable. Game + Improv + Humor = a powerful force.
I took three improv classes. They helped me tremendously with chicks and socially. After a few classes, you will be a master of Agree and amplify which is essentially game 101. Just be careful to not turn into a clown with chicas.. Socially speaking you will feel way more comfortable.
DO IT!!!!
DO IT!!!!
Yes, I need to start going regularly. I took a class and felt so uncomfortable and silly at times but afterwards I felt good. Improv really fixes the IDGAF mentality because you don't care if you look stupid or not. Immediately after class I felt more social and at ease around people.
Quote: (08-21-2017 02:11 PM)goonies Wrote:
Quote: (08-21-2017 08:06 AM)Nowak Wrote:
Anybody have recommendations for cheapish classes in NYC?
There's a weekly improv class every sunday for $10 and I believe friday is where you can perform. facebook/improvnow
I took a sunday class once, I highly recommend it.
Thanks!
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