Why Israel (and Tel Aviv in particular) is the shittiest western place to game in
08-04-2017, 07:32 PM
Isn't Tel-Aviv in the Middle EAST!
Quote: (08-04-2017 12:46 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:
Quote: (08-04-2017 12:26 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:
John Michael, I actually didn't know that Jewish American girls are aggressive too... I thought it's an Israeli thing.
In Israel as a Jewish person you're expected to find a Jewish partner, but given everything I've mentioned it seems like pretty low ROI.
Jews in the United States are very leftist as a whole, far more than in Israel. Simply put, Israel is in a rougher neighborhood, so I think there's more abrisiveness there just from living in a small country that has seen a lot of conflict. You'll see more aggressiveness in Israel because Israeli Jews are more street smart in general, whereas most Jews in the United States are quite soft, except for the hardcore feminism of Jewish American chicks. Honestly, I have yet to meet a Jewish girl in her 20's that isn't a hardcore leftist.
Jewish girls in the United States are massively spoiled. Usually they are complete daddy's girls, making sure to spend his money on top of trying to spend yours. They even have a term for it: JAP. Jewish American Princess. I've dated a few JAP's and found them wanting. Extreme entitlement and massive leftist politics don't agree with me.
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ProGambler, There was a massive immigration from the Russian bloc that's true. But trust me, I've been to Russia a few times and their aggressiveness is nothing like in Israel. Even here I go to Russian night clubs and it's a whole other thing.. the rejections I get from Russian-Israeli women seem far less harsh than from native ones.
That's hardcore. I've worked with and known a lot of Russians. They are a hardass people. It makes it sound unenviable for guys in Isreal. Do you find that arab/Christian/Muslim girls in Israel more approachable?
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Seth, no idea. At this point in life I don't see it as the best option for me.
After tasting high quality pussy abroad, and with quitting my job and going to South America soon, I'm gonna give it my best efforts to develope an online business and live elsewhere and probably find a non jewish partner.
Interesting that you say that. I've known more than a few Jewish guys who ended up marrying non-Jewish girls. Every one of them, to a man, quoted that their parents and society pushed them to marry Jewish, but the Jewish girls were a pain in the ass. I wouldn't blame a Jewish dude for looking elsewhere.
Quote: (08-04-2017 07:30 PM)Llama Deam Wrote:
Maybe I am just weird, but I actually like Jewish women. The ones I meet in London are always intelligent, fun and easy to bang. I also had a positive experience with them in New York as well.
Israel was a little different. The women in Jerusalem were painfully average and somewhat conservative. Not exactly a friendly city to game in. Tel Aviv was a bit better in that regard and I thought there were plenty of good looking girls but I generally found the women cold. With Israeli women it seems as though you have to get them while they are abroad.
Quote: (08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.
Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.
That way you get the best of both worlds.
Quote: (08-08-2017 02:35 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:
Quote: (08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.
Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.
That way you get the best of both worlds.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but isn't bringing a foreign girl into Israel with me will make her lose her nice traits and go bad? because of the culture here and the abundance and the endless validation she'll get.
Quote: (08-08-2017 02:35 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:
Quote: (08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.
Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.
That way you get the best of both worlds.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but isn't bringing a foreign girl into Israel with me will make her lose her nice traits and go bad? because of the culture here and the abundance and the endless validation she'll get.
Quote: (08-08-2017 10:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
I don't know if you realize that, but the majority of even mail-order brides are still married - Western men with zero Game getting Thai women and they have a better chance of happy marriage than with a local woman.
So of course a Red Pill man with Game should be able to select the girl well - some will adhere to their sets of beliefs even in the West. You would have to be more concerned about your daughters than your future wife.
Quote: (08-08-2017 12:53 PM)bruce_almighty Wrote:
Quote: (08-08-2017 10:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
I don't know if you realize that, but the majority of even mail-order brides are still married - Western men with zero Game getting Thai women and they have a better chance of happy marriage than with a local woman.
So of course a Red Pill man with Game should be able to select the girl well - some will adhere to their sets of beliefs even in the West. You would have to be more concerned about your daughters than your future wife.
Roosh recently wrote about this:
http://www.rooshv.com/the-hunt-for-a-moral-woman
Once you take this kind of girl out of her natural habitat into the westernized world of abundance there is a change she'll go bad.
Zelcorpion, what are your main ways of determining if a girl you want to "import" is worthy of this import?
Quote: (08-08-2017 02:10 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
I have zero dumping angst of any sort. I am in a LTR with a girl who is motherhood material and have trained her to accept threesomes.
Quote: (08-08-2017 02:16 PM)Jetset Wrote:
Quote: (08-08-2017 02:10 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
I have zero dumping angst of any sort. I am in a LTR with a girl who is motherhood material and have trained her to accept threesomes.
Many forum members would say these are matter and anti-matter. Perhaps it's datasheet time?
Quote: (08-08-2017 11:03 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:
Like storing dynamite, Zel. Put it an a box and forget about it, but over time it becomes unstable and all it takes is a bump to end the whole thing in tears.
If you think this girl will be ok with you bringing 20y.o girls home when she's 30 and has all the physical/mental wear and tear associated not only with the passage of time itself but the birthing and raising of several children then I can only wish you the best of luck.
Maybe it will work. Probably it wont. She'll agree to it now because there's little to nothing on the line, but in agreeing to it she'll be unwilling to re-negotiate later and the bitterness will build under the surface until one day she explodes. In 10 years time "we made a deal" isn't going to mean squat when you bring home a smoke-show that makes her look like a worn out old hag.
Are you willing to bet your children's future on this just so you can tap some strange?
Quote: (08-09-2017 12:17 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:
Israeli girls are very hot, OP must be into blondes, because Tel Aviv beach is as good as it gets anywhere.
Quote: (08-10-2017 05:20 AM)NickDunne Wrote:
2 sides to every coin. I have an American (not Jewish) buddy who travels to TA for work every month or so. He is tall, good looking and has a very generous expense account.
Just uses Tinder to pipeline and bangs at least two 8-10s per visit.
If you're foreign, tall, fit and blonde (to distinguish from the locals who all are in great shape and look good), you can kill it with ease in TA with very hot women.
If you are timid, not in shape and don't party, forget it.
Quote: (08-10-2017 11:16 AM)NickDunne Wrote:
Yeah... but not aggressive in terms that it's not safe or that you will be bullied or so. It's just that if you are western-polite, the girls will not even notice that you're trying to hit on them. And they will have a whole arsenal of brutal rebuttals.