[Conclusion013]

Hello, new to the form and game and been trying to take in as much as possible. I'm really intrigued with the whole Kino escalation....but I'm having some issues with finding ways to do it l. It's one thing to find an excuse to grab a girls hands or touch her lower back if you're walking somewhere but otherwise I'm a little lost. Any help on ideas or examples of how you've done it successfully would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Investment Bro]

Here's a few I use:

1: Sit next to girls as often as possible. I'll even do this when at a restaurant. Proximity helps a lot with natural touching, so you can "bump" her accidentally if you're nervous when starting out. If she likes you, trying to figure out if you're accidentally touching her or not will really get her hamster spinning.

2: If a girl has long hair and happens to be wearing earrings, brush her hair off of her ear. Say that her earring caught your attention and you wanted to see it. Don't compliment her on her hair or earring.

3: Grab one of her hands when you're sitting down and flip it over so you're looking at her palm. My favorite way to do this is to look at her hand, grin devilishly at her, then look back at her hand. Depending on the venue and how things have been going I'll usually say something outrageous. For example, I went out with this Korean chick last week, and I was used this technique while gently touching the inside of her wrists (huge erogenous zone for women).

We had both mentioned we liked giving massages at this point. Right after she had finished talking about massages, I gently grabbed her right hand and said something like "Really, are you sure that's all you do with this hand?"

4: Just touch her and don't make excuses for it. If you're building rapport, and she seems receptive and open to it, just touch her. If you're sitting next to her, it's really easy to brush your hand across the inside of her leg. Touch the insides of her arms if they're on the table.

5: Massages are king. Mention to a girl you give good massages. This is the ultimate form of kino, because it also involves her coming back to your place. If you're a more sensual guy like I am, using some massage oil and candles destroys LMR. I've used this on over a dozen women in the last year, and I've had zero issues. Plus, it makes it way easier to bring them back for a repeat.

[Vill@in]

^All good suggestions.

The hardest part is just getting over that mental block you put up for yourself. "Does she really want me to touch her?" or "What if she is offended if I touch her too early?" Fuck that noise. You have to break that mental barrier. Just go for it. You're not grabbing her titty or anything (but more power to you if you choose to go this route). You'll pick up pretty quickly if she is receptive to it or not.

All females want to be desired physically. It's in their DNA. Telling them is one thing but actually acting on it is another.

For instance: I met up with a girl last night for a drink and I was placing my hand on her lower back when we were walking. We played a game of pool and I was brushing up against her tits. I even slapped her ass when I walked her to the bathroom. She texted me later that night and told me she wished that I was "a little more handsy with her". I thought I was pushing the borders as it was but apparently I wasn't even close.

[brick tamland]

This is what you need to know:
Escalation means not going caveman with your first touches, because you need to continually measure her responsiveness. BUT, you must be touching her, without any sort of hesitation. If you feel some sort of inhibition, that's a very bad sign, a sign of putting her on the pedestal a.k.a you're treating her as unattainable.
Tip - on your dates you have to escalate to the point of touching/rubbing her pussy when she's fully dressed. Otherwise you haven't done anything. You're wasting your time on these date s.

[Investment Bro]

(06-07-2017 02:51 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  

This is what you need to know:
Escalation means not going caveman with your first touches, because you need to continually measure her responsiveness. BUT, you must be touching her, without any sort of hesitation. If you feel some sort of inhibition, that's a very bad sign, a sign of putting her on the pedestal a.k.a you're treating her as unattainable.
Tip - on your dates you have to escalate to the point of touching/rubbing her pussy when she's fully dressed. Otherwise you haven't done anything. You're wasting your time on these date s.

I agree with the pedestrianization. That said, perhaps my style of game is different, but I never want to be touching a woman there through her clothes. That just destroys anticipation, and if you're at a date venue you've still got an escalation to close when you bring her back home. If you're able to bring her back home, of course, because you've already expressly labeled your intent in woman speak.

To me, doing that on a date (even if its a nightclub) communicates someone who is in a rush to have sex. The women I've been around hate that. It comes across as rapey. If she's really into it, there's nothing wrong with brushing the tops of her breasts, or her butt, or teasing the inside of her legs. Women want what they can't have. They also want the seduction, and the plausible deniability associated with an intent that isn't entirely clear.

Grabbing em' right by the pussy sounds good as a moniker, but isn't great in practice. Keep your mitts off that pussy until the pants are off later and sex is happening.

[RatInTheWoods]

A guiding hand on the small of the back when walking sends them the tingles.

[Conclusion013]

This is great guys thank you for all the help and suggestions. As mentioned my fear comes from the girl feeling like I'm doing something inappropriate but I'm starting to realize it's me that thinks it's inappropriate not her.

[PapayaTapper]

(06-07-2017 02:51 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  

This is what you need to know:
Escalation means not going caveman with your first touches, because you need to continually measure her responsiveness. BUT, you must be touching her, without any sort of hesitation. If you feel some sort of inhibition, that's a very bad sign, a sign of putting her on the pedestal a.k.a you're treating her as unattainable.
Tip - on your dates you have to escalate to the point of touching/rubbing her pussy when she's fully dressed. Otherwise you haven't done anything. You're wasting your time on these date s.

Rubbing her pussy through her clothes should be reserved for girls you've already plowed: It's an associative reminder of the previous job well done (assuming it was)

But more importantly,if youre not getting them to a bang location before you escalate/ make out then youre wasting your time

[crispytaco]

Good advise. I remember my first dates trying to do it. You can start with a hi5 when she says something funny, then touch the elbow when you emphasize something in a conversation. Or grab her hand while compliment her nails or while crossing the street
After some dates you start doing it more naturally. You'll see. At some point you will find yourself hugging her and not giving a fuck

[PapayaTapper]

Kino? Easy...