[HungJohnson69]

(07-30-2018 07:27 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

HungJohnson69 you are in the wrong forum.
Most people on RVF support Putin and what he stands for.

You won't find many Putin haters anywhere here except for very small exceptions.

Most people here are not interested in discussing Russian politics. How would you know what users think here.

Also, show me an English language forum which is NOT infested with pro-Russian propaganda. They all are. There is a 1000 man strong troll factory in St. Petersburg trolling all around the internet, plus all the freelancers at home on top of that.. Even Finnish forums are affected, and Finland is probably a country with the most hatered towards Putin (and Trump!). Only about 8% (eight percent) of Finns think positively about Putin, and Trump isn't doing any better.

(And speaking of Trump, I have nothing against him as long as he doesn't start meaningless wars or destroy the world economy. But I don't support him either. And I have something against the way he was elected with Putin's help.)

(07-30-2018 08:49 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

Are you concerned about an imminent act of Russian Aggression™ and invasion of Helsinki? Else, I don't see why Putin would personally bother you (live in your head) so much that you seem obsessed with idea of "killing" and assassination of this "ruthless" "dictator"

Both of my grandfathers fought against invading fascist Ruskie commies 75 years ago. Russia hasn't changed a bit during the years, it's still the same fascist shithole it has always been and right now it's doing to Ukraine exactly what it did to Finland 75 years ago. There is every reason to hate Russia and its Dear Fuhrer, Vladolf Vladimirovich Putler. Fuck him.

But I have nothing against regular Russian people. They are sad brainwashed souls. And the women are beautiful.

[Bienvenuto]

Not sure if HG69 is >really in Finland<..

Or.. >is wiping the sweat from his brow as he surveys the softly waving click-bait on his vast Macedonian content farm..<

Either way pal, you are quite entitled to your views. Who knows you might be wrong, but you might be right and a lot of us wrong..

Just. One. Thing. = this ain't no safe space for nobody - Putin lovers, Russophobes, trump lovers, Folks 'with her.' etc.

(07-30-2018 09:21 AM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 07:27 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

HungJohnson69 you are in the wrong forum.
Most people on RVF support Putin and what he stands for.

You won't find many Putin haters anywhere here except for very small exceptions.

Most people here are not interested in discussing Russian politics. How would you know what users think here.

Also, show me an English language forum which is NOT infested with pro-Russian propaganda. They all are. There is a 1000 man strong troll factory in St. Petersburg trolling all around the internet, plus all the freelancers at home on top of that.. Even Finnish forums are affected, and Finland is probably a country with the most hatered towards Putin (and Trump!). Only about 8% (eight percent) of Finns think positively about Putin, and Trump isn't doing any better.

[HungJohnson69]

(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Not sure if HG69 is >really in Finland<..

Why wouldn't I be from Finland. What's wrong with me being from Finland?

Actually I live near Russian border and I see tons of Russian tourists every day. I kind of feel sad for them, they are all being molested by their Fuhrer's selfish interests. Russia could be a great and modern country by now just like Estonia and even better. The Soviet Union collapsed almost 30 years ago. But no, it's very corrupt place and relies on income from oil and gas sales mainly, and a huge part of those revenues disappear to different pockets in the government, the ultimate beneficiary being Putler himself.

Even the World Cup was a joke in economic sense. Stadiums cost ridiculous amounts of money but only some of the money actually was used to build the damn places. It was a big money laundering scheme. Just like Sochi olympics 4 years ago.

Of course from the "getting some gorgeous Russian pussy" point of view, it's only good that Russia is still so underdeveloped... So there's that I guess. Personally I don't really "do" Russian women even though I see them every day. Finnish girls are much easier to deal with...

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

Finnish girls are much easier to deal with...

[HungJohnson69]

In terms of logistics they are easier to deal with. I don't have a Russian visa and don't intend to get one. And I don't speak any Russian and don't intend to learn.

[Mercenary]

HungJohnson69 is just trying to derail this thread.
He's been a member of RVF for a whole 4 years, yet has ZERO rep and 59 posts....and now suddenly decides he needs to cause drama in a thread where there never was any before.

Don't fall for his trolling and bait.

[HungJohnson69]

Yeah, let's not talk about Vladimir Putin in a thread that has his name on it. He is too holy, too pure and innocent to be discussed about like regular people. Besides, talking about him is dangerous. You might get polonium or novichok -poisoning if you are not careful.

Nah, fuck it... I wish Vladimir Putin dies soon and rots in fucking hell. He can then have threesome gay faggot sex with Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin for eternity. Fuck em all fucking fascist assholes.

And Mercenary, quite interestingly your message history consists of only political and conspiracy -related messages on a "GAMING" FORUM. At least I have been discussing mainly about WOMEN.

[TigerMandingo]

HungJohnson, I'm personally lukewarm about Putin. He's done some good, he's done some bad. But are people in Finland actually worried about an imminent Russian invasion? I don't pretend to be Putin's psychologist but I highly doubt the man would be so blatantly aggressive in attacking another nation. I know, I know "muh Ukraine" but that situation was entirely different.

[JimBobsCooters]

(07-31-2018 04:57 AM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:  

Yeah, let's not talk about Vladimir Putin in a thread that has his name on it. He is too holy, too pure and innocent to be discussed about like regular people. Besides, talking about him is dangerous. You might get polonium or novichok -poisoning if you are not careful.

Nah, fuck it... I wish Vladimir Putin dies soon and rots in fucking hell. He can then have threesome gay faggot sex with Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin for eternity. Fuck em all fucking fascist assholes.

And Mercenary, quite interestingly your message history consists of only political and conspiracy -related messages on a "GAMING" FORUM. At least I have been discussing mainly about WOMEN.

Point on the doll where Putin touched you... It will all be ohhh kay.

Seriously for someone who doesn't speak Russia and hasn't been to Russia you've got a seriously strong hatred brewing there and a seriously warped perception of things on the other side of the border!

[RexImperator]

[emililadjet]

Unfortunately the efforts to isolate (and demonize) Russia will probably continue until we come to our senses and realize what Russia does is try to preserve their natuonal sovereignty - basically what we do when we say we are preserving US dominance.

[HungJohnson69]

(07-31-2018 09:04 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

HungJohnson, I'm personally lukewarm about Putin. He's done some good, he's done some bad. But are people in Finland actually worried about an imminent Russian invasion? I don't pretend to be Putin's psychologist but I highly doubt the man would be so blatantly aggressive in attacking another nation. I know, I know "muh Ukraine" but that situation was entirely different.

Finns are not worried about an imminent Russian invasion. But we weren't worried in 1939 either..

Russia is Finland's ONLY military threat. Russia is the only reason we have a strong conscription army. We are not worried about Estonia ever invading us. Or Norway. Sweden might do it once the islamists take power there in the 22nd century, but it's too early to worry about that now.

Anyways, Putin is not a guy you can be "neutral" or have "mixed feelings" about. He is a fascist dictator, who mostly wants to make himself and his ex. KGB-buddies rich (and has succeeded). Things have improved in Russia since 2000, but that doesn't take much from the leadership. I mean you would need a guy like Venezuela's Maduro to fuck that up. The primary "fuel" for growth has been the increasing oil price since 2000. Russia is still a very underdeveloped country and a lot behind countries such as Estonia, which doesn't even have vast natural resources... And right now the economic growth is relatively modest in Russia, which means that it's not really catching up western countries.

The problem with oil-rich countries in general seems to be that the economy is very one-dimensional and democracy tends to be flawed (putting it mildly). Norway is a rare exception...

(07-31-2018 12:52 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Seriously for someone who doesn't speak Russia and hasn't been to Russia you've got a seriously strong hatred brewing there and a seriously warped perception of things on the other side of the border!

I have been to Russia, but I have never had a Russian visa. Now there's a brain-teaser for you.

As a matter of fact, I have visited both the Soviet Union AND Russia. Both without a visa. Trust me, I know more about Russia than 95% of users here... I might even know more about Russia than many brainwashed Russians themselves. Not to mention that I can virtually "see Russia from my house"... Or Finnish land occupied by Russian forces, to be exact. (Finland lost about 10% of its territory to Soviet Union in WW2.) Three of my grandparents had their childhood homes there... Luckily they all survived the war. (Houses didn't survive Soviet occupation.)

But the other one of my grandfathers wasn't a particularly happy and lively guy. He fought in a machine gun company and I'm sure he saw tons of Ruskies get killed (Finns also) and it got to his psyche a bit. Anyways, it isn't hard to guess what he would think about current Russia and Putin... Or what basically any veteran would think. Or ultimately what Finns as a whole think. Putin doesn't get much sympathy from here.

I know that Russian media tries to portray Finland as a "neutral" and semi-friendly western country, but in reality, we hate the current Russian regime probably more than anybody. Putin is not our "friend". But we are friendly to Russian tourists visiting Finland. We have nothing against regular Russian people who behave well. And we are glad to show Russians example of a well-functioning society, as we did to Estonians, even before The Soviet Union collapsed - many Estonians were able to receive Finnish television broadcasts, such as this grocery store commercial in the 1970s...

Meanwhile in the Soviet Union:

[Aquarius]

It looks like in 90 days, current minor sanctions against Russia will amount to a full embargo at least from the US side. More specifically, a complete ban on import of Russian oil and export of all non-agricultural goods to Russia. Aeroflot will be banned from flying to the US, and it seems that US banks can't lend to Russian entities anymore and vice versa. Not to mention sanctions on sovereign debt.

I wonder how that will affect game in Russia and just living or visiting Russia as a whole, especially for Americans. Wouldn't be surprised if this also comes down to an Iran-style travel ban both directions and severance of diplomatic ties. This is definitely looks like a US quasi-declaration of war against Russia, like America's relation with Iran.

This full embargo is looking pretty serious, given how many US-based companies have large operations in Russia, with GM, Citibank, Boeing, and John Deere being the most obvious ones. Their divestment from Russia will certainly send huge economic shockwaves in the world if not another economic downturn.

Globalist hysteria in the US probably means Trump can't stop this embargo and severance of relations. The situation will probably get very dangerous especially this time of next year, with the embargo/quasi declaration of war and TDS for 2020 on full throttle. One simply doesn't unilaterally and unprovokedly declare war on Russia like that.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/a...-salisbury

[Orson]

(08-09-2018 04:46 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  

It looks like in 90 days, current minor sanctions against Russia will amount to a full embargo at least from the US side. More specifically, a complete ban on import of Russian oil and export of all non-agricultural goods to Russia. Aeroflot will be banned from flying to the US, and it seems that US banks can't lend to Russian entities anymore and vice versa. Not to mention sanctions on sovereign debt.

I wonder how that will affect game in Russia and just living or visiting Russia as a whole, especially for Americans. Wouldn't be surprised if this also comes down to an Iran-style travel ban both directions and severance of diplomatic ties. This is definitely looks like a US quasi-declaration of war against Russia, like America's relation with Iran.

This full embargo is looking pretty serious, given how many US-based companies have large operations in Russia, with GM, Citibank, Boeing, and John Deere being the most obvious ones. Their divestment from Russia will certainly send huge economic shockwaves in the world if not another economic downturn.

Globalist hysteria in the US probably means Trump can't stop this embargo and severance of relations. The situation will probably get very dangerous especially this time of next year, with the embargo/quasi declaration of war and TDS for 2020 on full throttle. One simply doesn't unilaterally and unprovokedly declare war on Russia like that.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/a...-salisbury

unilaterally and unprovoked? Those are propaganda lines. Certainly small nations like (ex-Soviet) Georgia, Baltic States and Sweden would Disagree with you (and there are more, esp Ukraine, the UK, etc).

As for "I wonder how that will affect game in Russia and just living or visiting Russia as a whole, especially for Americans?" issue? If the past is any guide, none at all! Russians see Americans as different from government policies, just as they see themselves differently from Putins.

Furthermore, no typical American visitor is going to be seen as a dangerous Putin critic or one who the Putin mafia could kidnap for money as happens in South America - and now in Turkey.

In the early US Republic, a constant source of worry at federal level was safe conduct and easy passport through foreign countries - especially any power sympathetic to the British cause of regaining their break away colonies - after all, the British reinvaded from Canada in 1812 and sacked and burned the US capitol!

These abductions do still go on. SEE for example "Proof of Life" (2000), "Missing" (1982), "Midnight Express" (1978) - all fact-based films if not from autobiographies. But in restricted contexts - with a relevant one being a "prominent" critic of the authoritarian despot Putin.

[911]

[quote] (08-25-2018 04:02 PM)Orson Wrote:  

[quote='Aquarius' pid='1831817' dateline='1533808008']
It looks like in 90 days, current minor sanctions against Russia will amount to a full embargo at least from the US side. More specifically, a complete ban on import of Russian oil and export of all non-agricultural goods to Russia. Aeroflot will be banned from flying to the US, and it seems that US banks can't lend to Russian entities anymore and vice versa. Not to mention sanctions on sovereign debt.
...

unilaterally and unprovoked? Those are propaganda lines. Certainly small nations like (ex-Soviet) Georgia, Baltic States and Sweden would Disagree with you (and there are more, esp Ukraine, the UK, etc).

....

These abductions do still go on. SEE for example "Proof of Life" (2000), "Missing" (1982), "Midnight Express" (1978) - all fact-based films if not from autobiographies. But in restricted contexts - with a relevant one being a "prominent" critic of the authoritarian despot Putin.[/quote]

Your mindset is that of a brainwashed boomer, buying wholesale all the anti-Russian deep state/establishment/MSM propaganda. Putin a despot? Hahaha, he is far more popular in Russia than any western leader in their country. I've got some reservations on Putin, but there is no doubt about his getting many things right, and that's why the overwhelming majority of Russians support him.

And WTF does Sweden have to do with this, it's completely retarded to think that Russia is planning to invade them. Russia is only being vilified in Sweden because Sweden, like most of western Europe, has been occupied by outsiders like Barbara Lerner Specter and their self-hating globo-homos local tools who want to destroy that society from the inside. They hate Russia because Putin stands for conservative Christian values, and no one knows that globo-bolchevik gameplan better than the Russians, who have been subjected to more atrocities and rot than any other European nation or people. The same globo-homo-banksters who have killed 65 million mostly Christians across the Soviet world are the ones who are conspiring today to undermine Russia.

It is Russia that is being threatened by NATO, which has installed shitty puppet regimes in places like Ukraine and Georgia, not the other way around.

[debeguiled]

Don't forget to capitalize Boomer, bucko.

[AManLikePutin]

Interesting this one.

I, too, absolutely can't stand rap. Not sure about restriction measures though...but he does raise a good point.

[url=https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1074514577034018816][/url]

[Disco_Volante]

Putin's wisdom seems wasted if he lets all the muslims from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and chechnya immigrate into and wipe out the society white Christian Russians created.

[911]

Those countries have been part of Greater Russia for centuries, and they also have large Russian Christian populations. It's vital for Russia to keep a strong influence over and good relations with their satellite countries in central Asia. Not the same situation in western Europe where there are no organic/historic ties predating modern colonial empires.

Putin gets the fact that pop music has been deliberately weaponized to demoralize and destroy societies. None are more dangerous and potent as rap, which dumbs down people and turns women into sexually degenerate hoes, it's like the fentanyl of degenerate musical genres. If you're interested in that subject I could provide links to serious red pill academic research on this subject.

It seems like the rulers of Russia and China are really looking out for the welfare of their people, these countries are run by former cadres of the communist system and have a deep understanding of the weaponization of culture as a powerful tool for subversion. In the West, leaders are either completely complicit with the globo-homo agenda, or they're dumb NPC neoliberal dupes who are oblivious to the destructive power of cultural subversion.

[Caduceus]

Richard Spencer was spot on when he called Russia "the sole white power left in the world".

[JimBobsCooters]

I love rap music but he's absolutely right, the values pushed in the majority of rap music are pretty fucking terrible.

Also that Bloomberg article is fucking trash, Bloomberg has become one of the absolute worst "fake news" organisations. Their headline quote is specifically about drugs, not rap, and yet that's what they lead with to sensationalise it.

[Richard Turpin]

Love Putin. On Rap music, I'm with Joe Hallenback (The Last Boy Scout)*;

Quote:

Milo:
You think you are so f***ing cool, don't you? You think you are so f***ing cool. But just once, I would like to hear you scream in pain...

Joe Hallenbeck:
Play some rap music.

* This film is an absolute treasure-trove of one-liners.

[CaptainChardonnay]

(12-17-2018 06:51 PM)911 Wrote:  

Those countries have been part of Greater Russia for centuries, and they also have large Russian Christian populations. It's vital for Russia to keep a strong influence over and good relations with their satellite countries in central Asia. Not the same situation in western Europe where there are no organic/historic ties predating modern colonial empires.

Putin gets the fact that pop music has been deliberately weaponized to demoralize and destroy societies. None are more dangerous and potent as rap, which dumbs down people and turns women into sexually degenerate hoes, it's like the fentanyl of degenerate musical genres. If you're interested in that subject I could provide links to serious red pill academic research on this subject.

It seems like the rulers of Russia and China are really looking out for the welfare of their people, these countries are run by former cadres of the communist system and have a deep understanding of the weaponization of culture as a powerful tool for subversion. In the West, leaders are either completely complicit with the globo-homo agenda, or they're dumb NPC neoliberal dupes who are oblivious to the destructive power of cultural subversion.

Post links

[TigerMandingo]

Rappers usually defend their ridiculous lyrics by saying that it's "the music of the street" or about struggle and other such nonsense. Typically rap lyrics are all about boasting, Ferraris, and hot bitchez. Nothing wrong with that per se, but they should be honest about their intentions.

[Mage]

(12-17-2018 03:53 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

Interesting this one.

I, too, absolutely can't stand rap. Not sure about restriction measures though...but he does raise a good point.

[url=https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1074514577034018816][/url]

This is an attempt to control free speech.

There is very little drugs and sex in Russian rap. It is much more intellectual then western rap. I risk getting hated but the truth is that it is because - it is sung by a different race of peoples. I listen to it and I know. Russian rap may appear degenerate only to old babuskas who support Putin. For any western conservative - Russian rap would appear very red pill and even virtuous compared to much more degenerate pop. Pop is owned by sluts both in west and in Russia. But rap is owned by men and for men and Russian rap is much more smarter then western.

Russian rap however - like any non-mainstream art of course - is strictly anti-authoritarian.

I am currently disappointed in Putin. He seems to have been given up. At the start of his reign he did many commendable red pill things, saved Russian children from molestation by western homos, made sports cool again and made drinking and smoking uncool again.

Lately he is just holding to power with increased authoritarianism, making no advances in conservatism and doing nothing about spread of Islam.

His tactic to keep Russian Muslims at peace is to bribe them by giving huge grants to Chechen and other Muslim regions. It will work for the time of Putin's reign but his successors will have to deal with much stronger Muslim 5th column.