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Barcelona or Milan?
#26

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-01-2017 12:41 PM)scrambled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-30-2017 09:32 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Even if you speak Spanish fluently, locals will begrudgingly respond in Spanish....then brush that interaction off due to lack of Catalan ability....as if everybody should be well versed in a language/culture that's irrelevant in 99.99999999% of the world.

Is the provincial language preference that strong there? Sad if learning Spanish means in Spain, limited to Castille y Leon alone, without getting an outsider penalty.

It really is, but you have enough tourists there to game foreigners. Local Catalan chicks ain't that hot anyways.

If you coincidentally meet a Spanish chick from parts of the country, game on as well.

Quote: (05-01-2017 07:48 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

Well, I live in NYC. Will I find Barcelona to be too similar? Since I'd be essentially limited to english-speaking tourists?

NYC is 20 times the city Barca is. Local spots have more character & personality as well.
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#27

Barcelona or Milan?

Thoughts on rolling solo there? Milan or Barcelona
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#28

Barcelona or Milan?

Why is "Barca" so highly rated then? I never bothered to visit, seems expensive and touristy, but is it like the Disney Land of Spain for McDonalds people or something? It's rep seems extremely high
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#29

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-02-2017 07:09 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

Why is "Barca" so highly rated then? I never bothered to visit, seems expensive and touristy, but is it like the Disney Land of Spain for McDonalds people or something? It's rep seems extremely high

I've lived in Barcelona for 3 months now, studying erasmus.
Barcelona has a different vibe from anywhere else i have been. Nobody consider themselves living in Spain, everybody lives in Barcelona. Very international vibe in the city.

This culture (or lack of) makes liberal people from all over flock the city. And then you have the weekend tourist.

It's good to go out, a lot of clubs, a lot of bars, restaurants. You can pull alot if you have your night game settled.

But if you have never been in Spain before, go somewhere else too, because Barcelona certainty does't show you the bigger picture about the country .
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#30

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-02-2017 07:09 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

Why is "Barca" so highly rated then? I never bothered to visit, seems expensive and touristy, but is it like the Disney Land of Spain for McDonalds people or something? It's rep seems extremely high

That's exactly how I perceive it.

Others may feel differently though as I have many friends who vibe with the city.
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#31

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-02-2017 06:54 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

Thoughts on rolling solo there? Milan or Barcelona
Been to both cities for 5 days each. It's an absolute no-brainer, definitely choose Barcelona.
The city itself is a gem, I'd rate it among the 5 most beautiful cities out of more than 200 that I visited within Europe. You have the sea with sand beaches right in the city, you have the mountains and hillside starting right in the city, architecture is marvelous (from medevial-feel small alleys in the Gothic quarter to wide, tree-lined boulevards with representative buildings, lush parks blossoming as early as March, beautiful fountains, almost subtropical vegetation (including palm trees with little parrots living in them), the famous Gaudi architecture, a great market hall along the main walking street Las Ramblas, an interesting seaport, great squares such as the Placa Real, and a never-ending stream of girl group tourists.

All that being said, choose wisely when to go there. I was there in March, with nice temperatures in the daytime but definitely chilly evenings, but on the other hands with less tourists in off-season, crowds were not worse than in any other city in Europe and hotel prices reasonable. In summer crowds (and hotel prices) are supposedly really bad, plus the heat might be unbearable.

As for Milan, I didn't vibe with that city in any way. It completely lacks the lively feel and southern atmosphere of Barcelona, feels more like a German city awkwardly misplaced to Italy, also it's a very flat city without any hills, mountains, sea or large river. Architecture is mediocre at best (by Italian as well as by European standards), even the Cathedral square is nothing special. City center is full of ugly streets with fashion stores, which is great when you are a mid-20 or mid-30 girl spending cash that your sugardaddy left on the hotel room nightstand the night before, but nothing a guy would enjoy in any way. Best about Milan was the really good and affordable ice-cream, but you can get that anywhere else as well. Milan was the ugliest and most boring city of all that I saw in Italy.

So much for the cities themselves.

As for the girls, I think both Spanish and Italian girls are tough nuts to crack, and while both cities attract large number of girl tourists from all over the world rolling with their girl groups, I would rather game the tourist girls in the beautiful setting of Barcelona with its better weather (sea climate, mild winters) than in the bland and boring center streets of Milan.
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#32

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-02-2017 02:43 PM)goldenhinde Wrote:  

which is great when you are a mid-20 or mid-30 girl spending cash that your sugardaddy left on the hotel room nightstand the night before,

LOL this cracked me up [Image: icon_razz.gif]

Pussy ain't for pussies...
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#33

Barcelona or Milan?

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?
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#34

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 09:58 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?

Less Americans.
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#35

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 09:58 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?
Much cheaper price level, at least if you don't go in high season and avoid eating in the tourist trap restaurants along Las Ramblas.

Historic European architecture from many different centuries that is way older and much more diverse and entertaining to the interested eye than any building in Miami.

Typical European walkability, excellent public transport. And while Barcelona is known for its pickpocketing and other scams, I'd like to assume that the overall crime rate is probably much less than in Miami.

Girls from all over Europe (whether you like Spanish, German, Italian, Russian, Polish, Swedish or British ones) in high numbers which fly in on 30-to-100 Euro flights, which you won't find in Miami because it's simply too expensive to get there for young European girls in large numbers.
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#36

Barcelona or Milan?

@Next stop

It's obvious you will not go anywhere, anyway, even if 20 Russian girls wait for you to bang them at Barcelona airport.

Play with Tinder, learn game and don't compare shit with gold.
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#37

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 10:17 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2017 09:58 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?

Less Americans.

Numbers wise yes less Americans...but during my Barca trip, there were a SHIT ton of bro out American types.

Since the city is not as big as Miami, it's hard to avoid the annoying tourist traps of Barca so you'll run into the worst breed of visitors (any nationality) whether it be bro out or obnoxious family types at every corner.

Sorry to be so negative about Barca once again...
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#38

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 07:10 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2017 10:17 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2017 09:58 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?

Less Americans.

Numbers wise yes less Americans...but during my Barca trip, there were a SHIT ton of bro out American types.

Since the city is not as big as Miami, it's hard to avoid the annoying tourist traps of Barca so you'll run into the worst breed of visitors (any nationality) whether it be bro out or obnoxious family types at every corner.

Sorry to be so negative about Barca once again...

I actually think the "less Americans" thing is debatable. You see a lot of Canadians and Americans on the beach side during the winter months. It's rare to see an American, at least a non Hispanic American, west of the beach year round. During the summer months, a lot of black Americans go to Miami Beach. Overall, Americans are probably a minority as far as Miami Beach tourists go and you very rarely see any in other parts of Miami Dade.
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#39

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (04-29-2017 06:11 PM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  

No disrespect brother but I think you do need your head examined because everything you wrote is just repeating what I said. Jist of what I said :

-Quality of fit birds on the street through the roof in both Milan and Turin.

-Milan is full of high heeled tall wannabe models who date 30s and over extremely wealthy businessmen frequently mafia guys.

If you want to look at hot girls then get yourself onto the sports illustrated homepage no need to go to Milan. Anyone who has the bank roll to drive a ferrari and hit the Milan clubs in the money no object fashion that it takes to bang them models would not come on rvf to ask for suggestions between Milan and Barcelona. That person most likely have been both cities multiple times or just would hit both cities and conquer top poosay and write a datasheet on sugardaddy game.

There is no game good enough to lure wannabe models in Milan on a consistent basis other than to look like one yourself or have the bankroll for it. Budget is not the word.

If you go Budapest or Kiev you can work budgets and pretend show off to be a semi baller and work game to pull models. Milan requires rented sports car and min 1000 euros a night table service in the club to approach them birds.

This is very common. Any guy who is not good with ladies, always blames everything to money. Girls don't go with them because he doesn't have money/status or social status. This is wrong to certain extend.

Some guys are just horrible with women. Thats pretty much it, even if they make 7 figure salary.

There is a lot of game in Milan that you can do and pull some amazing models. My friend from Los Angeles started mba program at Bocconi in here, he's 28, full-time student and he's rotating 4 models. He just got here in January. It's all about the game.

Of course, money and social status help but that's not the everything. I know a lot of loser Wall Street guys in New York who can't get women. So, if you are trying to land SI Sports Illusrated girl in Milan, chances are very slim but not every model happens to be SI Girl.

You can land a lot of hot models in Milan with game. I'm not saying you'll end up having long term relationship with them but you can easily bang them. Almost all guys do. Even my weirdo promoter Israeli friend was able to bang few this year.

Just because you couldn't get any, it doesn't mean they all wanna date with Berlusconi in Milan.

To make story short, quality of girls in Barcelona can't come close to quality of girls in Milan. Not in a million years. Just because Milan is the fashion capital and you really get to see one of the hottest girls in the world but are you capable of landing them? That's totally another issue. You have to have A game.

I'm not saying I banged models daily in Milan but you can land 1 or 2 per month if you try, especially at some specific venues on Tuesdays and Thursdays. They don't really go out much on Fridays and Saturdays.
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#40

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 08:15 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

Quote: (04-29-2017 06:11 PM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  

No disrespect brother but I think you do need your head examined because everything you wrote is just repeating what I said. Jist of what I said :

-Quality of fit birds on the street through the roof in both Milan and Turin.

-Milan is full of high heeled tall wannabe models who date 30s and over extremely wealthy businessmen frequently mafia guys.

If you want to look at hot girls then get yourself onto the sports illustrated homepage no need to go to Milan. Anyone who has the bank roll to drive a ferrari and hit the Milan clubs in the money no object fashion that it takes to bang them models would not come on rvf to ask for suggestions between Milan and Barcelona. That person most likely have been both cities multiple times or just would hit both cities and conquer top poosay and write a datasheet on sugardaddy game.

There is no game good enough to lure wannabe models in Milan on a consistent basis other than to look like one yourself or have the bankroll for it. Budget is not the word.

If you go Budapest or Kiev you can work budgets and pretend show off to be a semi baller and work game to pull models. Milan requires rented sports car and min 1000 euros a night table service in the club to approach them birds.

This is very common. Any guy who is not good with ladies, always blames everything to money. Girls don't go with them because he doesn't have money/status or social status. This is wrong to certain extend.

Some guys are just horrible with women. Thats pretty much it, even if they make 7 figure salary.

There is a lot of game in Milan that you can do and pull some amazing models. My friend from Los Angeles started mba program at Bocconi in here, he's 28, full-time student and he's rotating 4 models. He just got here in January. It's all about the game.

Of course, money and social status help but that's not the everything. I know a lot of loser Wall Street guys in New York who can't get women. So, if you are trying to land SI Sports Illusrated girl in Milan, chances are very slim but not every model happens to be SI Girl.

You can land a lot of hot models in Milan with game. I'm not saying you'll end up having long term relationship with them but you can easily bang them. Almost all guys do. Even my weirdo promoter Israeli friend was able to bang few this year.

Just because you couldn't get any, it doesn't mean they all wanna date with Berlusconi in Milan.

To make story short, quality of girls in Barcelona can't come close to quality of girls in Milan. Not in a million years. Just because Milan is the fashion capital and you really get to see one of the hottest girls in the world but are you capable of landing them? That's totally another issue. You have to have A game.

I'm not saying I banged models daily in Milan but you can land 1 or 2 per month if you try, especially at some specific venues on Tuesdays and Thursdays. They don't really go out much on Fridays and Saturdays.

Would you agree that Milan both has the best quality women in Italy and is the easiest city in Italy? Do guys who get blanked in Milan say "all people in Milan are stupid" just like guys who get blanked in Miami say, "all Miami people are stupid"? Milan argueably has the smartest people in Europe.
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#41

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 08:28 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Would you agree that Milan both has the best quality women in Italy and is the easiest city in Italy? Do guys who get blanked in Milan say "all people in Milan are stupid" just like guys who get blanked in Miami say, "all Miami people are stupid"? Milan argueably has the smartest people in Europe.

Yes, as an Italian, Milan is the easiest city to bang chicks in Italy.

Having said, when I say Milan is the easiest city, I don't really mean Italian girls in Milan.

Since Milan attract so many girls all over the world, I would say Milan is the easiest city but I rarely banged any Italian girls in Milan. If you go to, for example, Florence or Parma, it's kind of harder because there are not many foreign girls there.

All the girls come to Milan to work for fashion business. I didn't count but I'd say %90 of the girls I banged in Milan were not Italian girls. I don't even hit on Italian women anymore. That would take %500 effort for me to get a bang, instead I would use that time on gaming foreign girls in Milan and I would get 3-4 bangs instead of getting 1 italian bang.

I mean, I kinda banged a lot of models in Milan. Especially, Scandinavian ones.
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#42

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-04-2017 07:10 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2017 10:17 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

Quote: (05-04-2017 09:58 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

So my takeaway from this thread is that Barcelona is because its has a beach and is full of tourists and attractive women.

So...

What can Barcelona offer me that Miami can't?

Less Americans.

Numbers wise yes less Americans...but during my Barca trip, there were a SHIT ton of bro out American types.

Since the city is not as big as Miami, it's hard to avoid the annoying tourist traps of Barca so you'll run into the worst breed of visitors (any nationality) whether it be bro out or obnoxious family types at every corner.

Sorry to be so negative about Barca once again...

No problem, I also have some favorite hatreds ))) Warsaw or Odessa come to my mind... I just think Barcelona is quite a beautiful and enjoyable city, with plenty of women from all over the world and open to be banged.
Some downs of it are the tourist traps, bro tourists etc, that can be easily be avoided if you speak some spanish (wich I think is your case) and walk around with eyes wide open. Can not compare to Milan since I have never been there, but if Italy was a good place to score, the world would not be full with Italian sex tourists, they are simply everywhere )))
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#43

Barcelona or Milan?

I love both cities and have visited several times. Both have great food, architecture, art. Barcelona has better party options but Milan is classier. I'd visit neither with girls foremost in mind however. Several Med options with better ROI for that.
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#44

Barcelona or Milan?

Just got a quick question about Italian girls...

Would you say that the girls in Milan are approachable without speaking Italian?

Two years ago myself and a friend found ourselves in "Ipsos" in the Greek island of Corfu. This happened to be the town where all the 18-19 year old Italians choose to have their summer vacation. It was basically no other nationalities there.

We approached a lot of sets and got the same experience three nights in a row. In a group of 6-8 girls, about 1 spoke poor english and had to work as the translator for the other girls. I´ve been to almost every country in Europe, but I have to say that Italian youth may be the worst english speakers there are out there..

Soo much talent, yet so difficult to get over the language barrier.
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#45

Barcelona or Milan?

OP, you're from NYC and are seriously planning a 3-4 day trip across the pond to visit some Med cities during summertime?
Why?
A stopover on the way to somewhere else?
Otherwise you'd probably spend more time in transit and traveling than actually doing something on the ground. Seems like a bad investment of time and money.
Just saying.

I've been to both cities, and prefer Barcelona.
Great weather, it's cheap, there's beaches, great food, tons of interesting things to do, a never ending rotation of tourist chicks from all over Europe.
High energy and a lot of fun.

As for Milan, I wholeheartedly agree with goldenhinde.

Quote: (05-02-2017 02:43 PM)goldenhinde Wrote:  

As for Milan, I didn't vibe with that city in any way. It completely lacks the lively feel and southern atmosphere of Barcelona, feels more like a German city awkwardly misplaced to Italy, also it's a very flat city without any hills, mountains, sea or large river. Architecture is mediocre at best (by Italian as well as by European standards), even the Cathedral square is nothing special. City center is full of ugly streets with fashion stores, which is great when you are a mid-20 or mid-30 girl spending cash that your sugardaddy left on the hotel room nightstand the night before, but nothing a guy would enjoy in any way. Best about Milan was the really good and affordable ice-cream, but you can get that anywhere else as well. Milan was the ugliest and most boring city of all that I saw in Italy.

That's exactly the paragraph I was about to write. Milan is good for high quality girls, and not much else.
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#46

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-05-2017 04:29 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  

OP, you're from NYC and are seriously planning a 3-4 day trip across the pond to visit some Med cities during summertime?
Why?
A stopover on the way to somewhere else?
Otherwise you'd probably spend more time in transit and traveling than actually doing something on the ground. Seems like a bad investment of time and money.
Just saying.

I've been to both cities, and prefer Barcelona.
Great weather, it's cheap, there's beaches, great food, tons of interesting things to do, a never ending rotation of tourist chicks from all over Europe.
High energy and a lot of fun.

As for Milan, I wholeheartedly agree with goldenhinde.

Quote: (05-02-2017 02:43 PM)goldenhinde Wrote:  

As for Milan, I didn't vibe with that city in any way. It completely lacks the lively feel and southern atmosphere of Barcelona, feels more like a German city awkwardly misplaced to Italy, also it's a very flat city without any hills, mountains, sea or large river. Architecture is mediocre at best (by Italian as well as by European standards), even the Cathedral square is nothing special. City center is full of ugly streets with fashion stores, which is great when you are a mid-20 or mid-30 girl spending cash that your sugardaddy left on the hotel room nightstand the night before, but nothing a guy would enjoy in any way. Best about Milan was the really good and affordable ice-cream, but you can get that anywhere else as well. Milan was the ugliest and most boring city of all that I saw in Italy.

That's exactly the paragraph I was about to write. Milan is good for high quality girls, and not much else.

Yes mostly curiosity is drawing me to visit. Waiting to get a deal on a flight. Right now its $1200. I could fly to Miami for $300, so I am waiting for a good deal on BCN (if it ever comes)
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#47

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-05-2017 03:16 PM)Bateman Wrote:  

Just got a quick question about Italian girls...

Would you say that the girls in Milan are approachable without speaking Italian?

Two years ago myself and a friend found ourselves in "Ipsos" in the Greek island of Corfu. This happened to be the town where all the 18-19 year old Italians choose to have their summer vacation. It was basically no other nationalities there.

We approached a lot of sets and got the same experience three nights in a row. In a group of 6-8 girls, about 1 spoke poor english and had to work as the translator for the other girls. I´ve been to almost every country in Europe, but I have to say that Italian youth may be the worst english speakers there are out there..

Soo much talent, yet so difficult to get over the language barrier.

Haha, of course. Approaching to Italian girls in English is always better than Italian, even if you knew Italian.

I met some Italian girls in Miami few years ago, I approached them in English and I didn't tell them I was Italian until I banged her. When I took my shirt off though, she saw my italian tattoo but I managed to say, my grandma had Italian roots.

If you approach italian girls in Italian, everything automatically will be %100 harder.

As for Italians speaking English, big countries don't really speak English. Spain and France are same too. I didn't speak one word of English until I went to Los Angeles for college. We don't really need to learn English as opposed to small countries in Europe. When I went to Sweden, I was shocked why everyone was speaking English.
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#48

Barcelona or Milan?

Quote: (05-01-2017 08:08 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

Anyone visit Barcelona solo? Would you recommend it?

Did Barcelona solo a couple of years ago, no stress, met alot of cool people from all over the world. During summer months the beach area is happening.
Stay in one of the many hostels and for sure you will meet people.
Just go. There is plenty to keep you busy for days and people are friendly, english is spoken.
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#49

Barcelona or Milan?

Barcelona is the party capital in Europe! In the summer is full of sedent tourist girls.. I have been there like 7 times in the last 3/4 years and I got lucky all of them. I also met a bunch of good people, made new friends, locals included.

For summer time I obviously recomend the clubs in Barceloneta, which will be full from Sunday to Saturday. There was 1 year that in 4 nights in BCN, I have never made it to the club, since i got hooked up with girls who were just sitting on the beach. Pubcrawls from hostels are also fun. Clubs like Razzmatazz, Otto Zuts, Bling Bling, Sutton, La Fira or Apolo are very good as well.

Day Game: Ciutadela Park, Guell Park, Barceloneta, and Bunkers del Carmel (not that touristic but my favourite landscape spot of BCN).
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#50

Barcelona or Milan?

Been to both. Milan is good for high roller game. Barcelona is one of the best cities in the world for getting multiple flags with tourists. The combination of the beach lifestyle + nightlife in a big city is what attracts the girls. I can only think of Miami and Rio that offer a similar landscape.
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