[MMX2010]

kaotic Wrote:

Not sure how I'm not keeping my story straight when I'm clearly telling you - you don't understand from a game perspective and someone with a sense of humor.

He was clearly stating in a humorous way that he sees dudes white knighting and protecting "m'lady" and that won't get them the pussy, but running asshole game will.

Like I said before - you don't understand this from a game perspective and I don't expect you to.

"A game perspective", my ass.

Roosh's very first book on Game told us to write down our motives for learning Game before we started learning it. What he didn't say, and what I discovered, is that whatever motives you have will be validated by learning Game.

So, if you want to learn Game mostly to prove that women are fucked up, you'll learn that women are fucked up. And if you want to learn Game mostly to prove that all your failures with women were primarily your fault, you'll learn that. And if you want to learn Game primarily to discover a great Conservative woman to marry and have kids with, you'll learn that.

Telling me that there's only one Game perspective, (conveniently, the only one you can think of), disproves your notion that you "question everyone's motives".

You do the fucking opposite. You assert that there's only one motive for everyone you question, and close your mind to other potential motives.

Bonus fact: If you're between 28 and 45, you learned Game during the "Enjoy the decline" phase of the Manosphere. A primary motivation you had for learning Game was probably "to show how fucked up women and society are".

Learning Game under those conditions reinforces the pathway in your brain called "Let's point out how fucked up everything is." While Trump was running, he excited that part of your brain - but if Trump starts to fix a crap load of negative shit, then perhaps things weren't as fucked up as you thought; you just needed to care more and try harder.

Hence, you supported him while he was running, but you're starting to resent him as he's winning.

[MMX2010]

(04-28-2017 05:15 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Tfw people mock objective facts, because they can't refute them.

[Extinguished Light]

This conversation is frankly ridiculous. A harmless joke about gaming Lauren is hardly worth this level of temper tantrum. You seem to be forgetting that women like guys with game better than beta orbiters anyways.

Restoring normal gender roles and relations is part of reversing the decline. Protecting your women is part of restoring normal general roles, but motivation-wise those guys around her are mostly there because they want to sleep with her. It doesn't seem particularly egregious to me to recognize that it will be someone with better game or higher status who does so rather than the white knights around her.

[JohnKreese]

[spokepoker]

So nothing happened at the 2nd rally, right?
Had to zip through like two pages of bullshit to figure that out.

[kaotic]

It amazes me how far off you really are.

This is laughable that you're drawing your argument this far out, which has been proven time and time again with you.

(04-28-2017 05:27 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

"A game perspective", my ass.

Roosh's very first book on Game told us to write down our motives for learning Game before we started learning it. What he didn't say, and what I discovered, is that whatever motives you have will be validated by learning Game.

So, if you want to learn Game mostly to prove that women are fucked up, you'll learn that women are fucked up. And if you want to learn Game mostly to prove that all your failures with women were primarily your fault, you'll learn that. And if you want to learn Game primarily to discover a great Conservative woman to marry and have kids with, you'll learn that.

Telling me that there's only one Game perspective, (conveniently, the only one you can think of), disproves your notion that you "question everyone's motives".

You do the fucking opposite. You assert that there's only one motive for everyone you question, and close your mind to other potential motives.

Bonus fact: If you're between 28 and 45, you learned Game during the "Enjoy the decline" phase of the Manosphere. A primary motivation you had for learning Game was probably "to show how fucked up women and society are".

Learning Game under those conditions reinforces the pathway in your brain called "Let's point out how fucked up everything is." While Trump was running, he excited that part of your brain - but if Trump starts to fix a crap load of negative shit, then perhaps things weren't as fucked up as you thought; you just needed to care more and try harder.

Hence, you supported him while he was running, but you're starting to resent him as he's winning.

That's a mouthful of assumptions right there, and oddly enough I think that says more about yourself in your views with women than anything.

There isn't ONE game "perspective" I'm saying from my POV regarding the statement of gaming Lauren.

You still don't get what I'm saying, but I'm done trying to explain it.

I actually learned inner game first before taking on game as we know it on the forum - it's not to take advantage of fucked up girls or to say girls are really fucked up. I got into game because I love women, I wanted to be better with them, I love sleeping with them, and enjoy their company - provided they are decent to my given standards. Why do you think I go on so many dates per week and spend alot of time in the game section of the forum, along with helping newbies?

I don't go out of my way to search for fucked up people or see the bad in people.

Why in god's name would I resent Trump for winning ? I love that glorious bastard ! I still haven't jumped off the train like some have, to each their own.


You know it's funny, you speak about game alot, but you're the last guy who should be lecturing me about game.

Like I said before: Ironic, coming from a guy who avoids the game forum like the plague.

1000 comments on 25 pages on your profile, yet only about 30 in the game section all related to that retarded socio-sexual hierarchy thread - except maybe ONE actual post in the game forum

1 Comment In The Game Section....


Don't sit here and try to act holier than thou.


The biggest joke of all: This was all started BECAUSE of a joke.


I'm headed out for the weekend, go ahead, have your last say, you always do.

[weambulance]

I've only made three posts in the game section out of my last 1000 posts.

Well, I'm in monk mode right now, so that's why. I've been totally ignoring women for months. I haven't even been in the Would you hit it? thread! For shame.

[Suits]

(04-28-2017 09:21 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

I've only made three posts in the game section out of my last 1000 posts.

Well, I'm in monk mode right now, so that's why. I've been totally ignoring women for months. I haven't even been in the Would you hit it? thread! For shame.

What have you achieved in the last several months due to entering "monk mode?"

[Leonard D Neubache]

If a period lasts more than one week, see your doctor.

[weambulance]

I have so far gained quite a lot of self knowledge from iterative introspection, and became a substantially better programmer and system architect through targeted practice and study. And I wrote a shitload of working code in the process that will be useful for various projects.

This was weak compared to the productivity I can achieve if I just go lock myself in a cabin 10 miles from cell service. I'm trying to learn how I can become as efficient and focused here as I am there. I'm also trying to figure out why I can rapidly context switch if I'm being a hermit, but I can't if I'm around people and distractions.

Obviously I don't want to live my whole life as a hermit in the woods, so I need to figure out what it is about being isolated and disconnected that actually makes the difference. I know it isn't just having nothing else to do but work. So I'm working on various software tools and environmental changes that will help me improve my productivity and multitasking ability (by which I mean having two or three distinct projects running at once) based on what I've learned so far from the aforementioned introspection.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-28-2017 05:15 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Although on one hand. Noting how limp-wristed most Antifa are.

Isn't "fighting" Antifa equivalent to a "participation award"?

[Transsimian]

Obviously false, as AntiFa don't mix with PoC

[MMX2010]

Zelcorpion Wrote:

Who would have thought that the Autism epidemic & sexual market deterioration would have such upsides in the form of the non-PC 4-chan army.

Not every man can be the Alpha stud, but every man can be useful in a sane society.

Great work.

I work with teenagers in one of the many counties that voted 60+% for Donald Trump. While it's still true that about 60% of them are apolitical, the Trump-supporters (or those claiming to be moderate conservatives) have never been higher.

They haven't caught my generation's cynicism, and so they don't respect that cynicism as "cool" or "edgy" anymore. They also haven't heard of Game, so they don't conclude that all motivations stem from "getting pussy" or "getting the bang".

Who knows whether they'll stay that way (since college tends to produce cynical, disaffected young adults), but they remind me of something Anonymous Bosch said about a year ago, "The age of narcissism is over. People are increasingly wanting genuine emotion and genuine feeling, to produce genuine relationships."

[jps]

Are we neomasculinists now supposed to judge women according to masculine standards of physical strength and ability to fight? It’s like buying into the feminist badass princess trope. Isn’t that part of what we wanted to avoid? Isn't protecting women who appreciate it and respect our role what we should be doing anyway?

Of course Lauren's going to be protected by men. And women are turned on by violence, so that "white knight" beating back Antifa is far more likely to get her pussy than some dude thinking he's running asshole "game" from the back. Where could there a more advantageous circumstance to DHV? Mr. Frontline has a golden opportunity that rear echelon asshole doesn't.

In many romance novels, there's a scene where the man opens a can of brutal whupass on someone trying to hurt the woman. Then she fucks his brains out that night. That violent scene is at the very heart of female fantasy.

[MMX2010]

(04-29-2017 12:48 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Although on one hand. Noting how limp-wristed most Antifa are.

Were they limp-wristed when they had the full support of the Berkeley police behind them? Were they limp-wristed when they were stabbing and assaulting Trump supporters with impunity? Were they limp-wristed when their political violence canceled Milo's speech, and even they forced Ann Coulter to cancel her speech?

Or were they limp-wristed only after r/Pol doxxed Eric Clanton, an event which couldn't have happened without Based Stick Man, Gavin, Lauren, Brittany and their supporters?

Care to RETCON some more?

[MMX2010]

kaotic Wrote:

That's a mouthful of assumptions right there, and oddly enough I think that says more about yourself in your views with women than anything.

It's not an assumption that sexuality is the most powerful motivator. It's not an assumption that he political attitude you inhabit while having sex becomes powerfully enforced within your mind. Those are facts, scientifically proven to anyone who bothers to study evolutionary biology.

kaotic Wrote:

There isn't ONE game "perspective" I'm saying from my POV regarding the statement of gaming Lauren. You still don't get what I'm saying, but I'm done trying to explain it.

I get what you're saying, kaotic. How fucking complicated is, "Dude, it was just a joke?"

Not complicated at all, so the correct assumption is that I've always understood what you've been saying - but I don't agree with it.

kaotic Wrote:

I got into game because I love women, I wanted to be better with them, I love sleeping with them, and enjoy their company - provided they are decent to my given standards. Why do you think I go on so many dates per week and spend alot of time in the game section of the forum, along with helping newbies?

Tell us about the women you've slept with. Did they care about politics?

Do you have children? If not, why not?

Do you have long term relationships, (longer than one year, with women whom you see at least once a week, and whom you've promised not to sleep with anyone else?), or are you a serial dater?

You also posted that you're worried about the rise of White Nationalism because, as an Indian who fought in the US Military, you're scared that people will ignore your service while focusing on your race. Given that there were definitely Alt-right members in the Berkeley rallies, can you explain how you know that your own racial insecurity IS NOT clouding your vision?

kaotic Wrote:

The biggest joke of all: This was all started BECAUSE of a joke.

A mean-spirited, dismissive joke from a non-fighter of our enemies.

[I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE]

(04-29-2017 11:08 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 12:48 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Although on one hand. Noting how limp-wristed most Antifa are.

Were they limp-wristed when they had the full support of the Berkeley police behind them? Were they limp-wristed when they were stabbing and assaulting Trump supporters with impunity? Were they limp-wristed when their political violence canceled Milo's speech, and even they forced Ann Coulter to cancel her speech?

Or were they limp-wristed only after r/Pol doxxed Eric Clanton, an event which couldn't have happened without Based Stick Man, Gavin, Lauren, Brittany and their supporters?

This discussion is getting really tiring so maybe we should lay it to rest once and for all: Antifas are generally limp-wristed when compared to normal people/conservatives. That stems from the audience of who comprises antifa: generally liberal arts college(-educated) champagne liberals, marxists and some multicultural malcontents. They do not lift, they don't work blue collar jobs, they rarely experience hardship (unless it is self-imposed hardship like living in abandoned squat houses/veg farms or dumpster diving) and thus are limp-wristed compared to your average conservative who might've experience some more nitty gritty physical labor.

THAT SAID, even the most malnourished among us, has the potential to harm others, especially when they caught someone off-guard as a group and use physical force multiplicators like tools, u-locks, bottles, knives, pepper spray etc. Harming someone as part of an anonymous black block blob when you have the numbers, weapons and cover of others is really nothing impressive and you don't have to be "tough" to be able to do that; even girls can do that! That's why being part of such antifa groups is so appealing for leftists: it compensates for their innate limp-wristedness.

[Enoch]

^ Sorry for thread derailment. Just really want to see a Roosh V forum member knock/wife that up and send her back to the kitchen!

L.S. is running excellent girl game right now to get male attention. If she was just in it to fight lefties, she wouldn't post IG photos like this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSltY_JgmpV/...rencheriie

In the greater scheme of things, yes MMX she is fighting the good fight, and doing far more than I (publicly, that is). Which makes it even more imperative that guys know how to exit beta orbiter status and get on a romantic footing with girls like that.

[MMX2010]

(04-28-2017 05:47 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  

Restoring normal gender roles and relations is part of reversing the decline. Protecting your women is part of restoring normal general roles, but motivation-wise those guys around her are mostly there because they want to sleep with her. It doesn't seem particularly egregious to me to recognize that it will be someone with better game or higher status who does so rather than the white knights around her.

Reversing normal gender roles is indeed part of reversing the decline. But the arguably largest part of the decline is the loss of community, fertility, and two-parent homes that stem from women seeking sex without relationship, (or sex without consideration of a man's needs and wants).

Therefore, promoting that form of sexually is endorsing the decline.

This promotion was perfectly fine before Trump, because it was universally concluded that the system was so fucked up that no one outside of the political establishment would ever win. After Trump, however, that conclusion of irreversible fucked-upedness is highly disputed, and so everyone must re-evaluate which side they're on.

If you reject, "Enjoy the decline", you must reject all parts of it, particularly the cynicism which concludes that sex-without-relationships and especially sex-without-children is the primary pursuit of man.

If you still accept, "Enjoy the decline!", by all means accept all parts of it. But know that accepting all parts of it means that you're de facto against Trump repairing America so that more people have more families. And you're also de facto against the Trump supporters who want to restore the family.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-29-2017 11:27 AM)Enoch Wrote:  

^ Sorry for thread derailment. Just really want to see a Roosh V forum member knock/wife that up and send her back to the kitchen!

L.S. is running excellent girl game right now to get male attention. If she was just in it to fight lefties, she wouldn't post IG photos like this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSltY_JgmpV/...rencheriie

In the greater scheme of things, yes MMX she is fighting the good fight, and doing far more than I (publicly, that is). Which makes it even more imperative that guys know how to exit beta orbiter status and get on a romantic footing with girls like that.

NO woman will be able to attract a High Value Alpha with her brain. She can advertise her body somewhat to reel in Mr. Big.

[Leonard D Neubache]

MMX has been totally flipping out ever since the missile strike on the Syrian airfield.

I'm pretty sure it's not just me reading too much into his posts. Guys talk about the pronunciation of tomato and potato and bang, like a flash, there's MMX smashing a bottle on the bar and waving the remains around like a lunatic.

MMX, you need to take a chill pill or you're going to burn yourself out and burn your relationships here. Southern doesn't give a fuck what any of us think and none of us are actually going to fuck her.

It's not worth getting your shit twisted over.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-29-2017 11:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

MMX has been totally flipping out ever since the missile strike on the Syrian airfield.

I'm pretty sure it's not just me reading too much into his posts. Guys talk about the pronunciation of tomato and potato and bang, like a flash, there's MMX smashing a bottle on the bar and waving the remains around like a lunatic.

MMX, you need to take a chill pill or you're going to burn yourself out and burn your relationships here. Southern doesn't give a fuck what any of us think and none of us are actually going to fuck her.

It's not worth getting your shit twisted over.

[Brother Abdul Majeed]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/docume...up-nambla/

All these degenerate groups are tied to one another. I'm not actually surprised to find out that there's a link between Antifa and NAMBLA. Some of those noodle-armed wispy bearded Antifags look as though they have groomed by pederasts.

Quote:

The Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration & Immigrant Rights, and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary — more commonly referred to as By Any Means Necessary or BAMN — is one of the militant leftist groups waging a campaign against conservatives and Trump supporters in Berkeley. The group’s planned aggressive demonstrations against conservative commentator Ann Coulter and the students coming to hear her talk led to the cancellation of Coulter’s speech this week due to safety concerns. (RELATED: ‘INFERNO’ — Milo Speech Cancelled After Rioters Set UC Berkeley Campus Ablaze)

BAMN’s parent organization worked directly with the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in the years just before it founded BAMN, according to NAMBLA documents reviewed by The Daily Caller. In addition, a member of that parent organization said to have founded BAMN is an admitted member of NAMBLA, which she has described as the victim of a “witch-hunt.”

BAMN, which did not return a phone call and voicemail seeking comment, was founded by the Revolutionary Workers League, a small, Detroit-based Marxist organization. Many of BAMN’s leading members over the years have also been RWL members.

Quote:

NAMBLA’s November-December 1991 bulletin, reviewed by TheDC, described at one of its conferences the “participation of Revolutionary Workers League, a Trotskyite group centered in the Detroit area. RWL is supportive of gay rights in general and NAMBLA in particular.” The journal contained details of the organization’s conferences and activities, as well as detailed, erotic stories about naked young boys.

The bulletin noted that “a number of proposals were put forward by the Revolutionary Workers League” at the NAMBLA conference.

Quote:

Shanta Driver, described by the Capital Research Center as BAMN’s founder and co-chair, was affiliated with RWL as early as 1983, according to the Workers Vanguard, a communist publication. She also identified herself to the Los Angeles Times as an activist with RWL in late 1995 while protesting in Berkeley.

Driver argued before the Supreme Court on behalf of BAMN as recently as 2013.

Driver’s former law partner, Eileen Scheff — who has represented BAMN on multiple occasions, including at the Supreme Court — has been a self-described “member of NAMBLA.” The bulletin identified Scheff as an RWL member.

Quote:

At a 1991 NAMBLA press conference, Scheff denounced the “witch-hunt” against pedophiles.

“As an activist in the legal and political struggle for lesbian/gay rights and for freedom of sexual expression, I am here to support NAMBLA and to demand that the witch-hunt against it must be stopped,” Scheff said at the conference. “The media and police are targeting NAMBLA because it stands for the rights of young people to have consensual sex with whomever they want.”

[MMX2010]

(04-29-2017 11:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

MMX has been totally flipping out ever since the missile strike on the Syrian airfield.

Don't project your unwillingness to discuss something onto me.

If you don't want to discuss something, don't discuss it, but if you do want to discuss the issue - this post is for you.

[cascadecombo]

(04-29-2017 11:33 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

If you reject, "Enjoy the decline", you must reject all parts of it, particularly the cynicism which concludes that sex-without-relationships and especially sex-without-children is the primary pursuit of man.

If you still accept, "Enjoy the decline!", by all means accept all parts of it. But know that accepting all parts of it means that you're de facto against Trump repairing America so that more people have more families. And you're also de facto against the Trump supporters who want to restore the family.

Why do so many people demand there only be two options in life when there are almost always several if not a multitude?