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Mexico City: April 2017
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Mexico City: April 2017

I meant to use last night to write a Puerto Vallarta data sheet, which I will tackle another time. Instead, I wanted to instead give my thoughts on Mexico City. There are already good threads on Mexico City here and here, but given what I cover and the length, felt it was best suited to its own thread.

I lived in Mexico City for 6 weeks. I speak a pretty good level of Spanish, although far from fluent, and lived in the Roma neighborhood for the entire time.

Initial impressions

La Roma, and Mexico City, is a lot like Brooklyn. There’s not a lot of high-density buildings, which means the streets aren’t packed and busy, despite the amount of people living in the city (8.9 million people, about half a million more than New York City).

While I was expecting Manhattan, it reminded me more of Brooklyn crossed with a city in Spain. Old architecture, wide streets. For game this meant the streets aren’t packed with people, and there aren’t a ton of girls walking on the streets, unlike Manhattan.

I think a street approach area is good if you can go two hours and make eight approaches. To do this in Mexico City is not that easy, because there just aren’t that many girls worth approaching on the street.

Jagnum’s advice: If you see an 8, doesn’t matter how you are feeling, run after her. Doesn’t matter if she walked into a store. Run after her. It might be a week until you see an 8 again.

One evening I went to Condesa and walked around Avenida Amsterdam for two hours – made one approach.

Another afternoon I walked around Avenida Yucactan and Monterrey for two hours – made one approach.

A third afternoon I walked around Cuauhtemoc and Alvaro Obregon and Tabasco – made a couple approaches, maybe five, and got three numbers. And one date, and one bang, on a second date from that.

But that’s generally the idea here, you have to invest time approaching, figure out where’s good. If you can’t make eight approaches in two hours, try changing up the time of day, or the location where you’re approaching.


Neighborhood

I spent most of my time in La Roma, and a little time in Condesa. There’s Polanco as well which as I understand it, is more women in their 30s and a bit wealthier. I’m sure there are other neighborhoods, but it was difficult enough to find an affordable place to live in La Roma. I was relatively happy there.

I have a feeling Juarez might be a cool area to live. It’s not too far from Roma and Condesa, and there are a lot of coffee shops. It’s cheaper than both of those neighborhoods, so you might find more locals there.

A few girls I met lived in Navarte, which is south of Doctores. Another few lived northwest of Polanco. Neither of those are nice neighborhoods, but girls have no issue taking a 20-min Uber ride to see you on a date, because it might only cost 100 pesos ($5 US).

If I could do it again, I’d try to find a place just west of Orizaba in La Roma. That’s where more of the talent can be found at the Plaza Luis Cabrera or nearby area. It’s prohibitively expensive to live there in a 1-br, so you might need to find a roommate. I lived about a 10 min walk east of there, which I felt was a very, very good location. It was good value and I could take a bus to the heart of Roma or Condesa and be there in 10 minutes. I might also live in Juarez if I did it again. I made a map and put it here:

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Girls

Mexico City has the advantage of bringing girls from all over Mexico there for work, so you’re not just stuck with one type of Mexican girl (Chilangas).

That being said, Chilangas are by and large unattractive.

A few years ago, I was in Guadalajara for a couple days. I remember a conversation I had with a woman I met at a club in her 30s. I was chatting her up, and asked her, “What’s the difference between where she’s from (Gudalajara), and the people from Mexico City (Chilangos)?”

She told me, “Chilangos are short, dark, and ugly.”

I was surprised by her bluntness. “What makes you so sure they’re like that?” I responded.

“I used to be married to one,” she replied.

I thought she was hating on her ex-husband, but sadly, it’s mostly true. They’re also fat. When I was in Guadalajara I felt like I could count on one hand the number of fat women I saw on the streets near Chapultepec in six days. Mexico City is the first place I’ve lived in Mexico where I started to see that Mexico has many people who are overweight.

There are also a lot of 4’s.

There are cute Chilangas - don't get me wrong. I went on a first date with a tall woman who looked more like she was from Spain than Mexico, but told me she was Chilanga.

I insta-dated a girl I met at a rock venue one evening who looked very Chilanga – short and dark, but she had a cute face, young girl 20 years old, and a nice thin body. We got tacos, then went to a Mezcal bar, made-out a bunch, but I couldn’t get her back to my place.

Both of them flaked and didn’t have 2nd dates with either.

Flakes – For whatever reason, a lot of girls here are flaky. I don’t think it’s any worse than the States though, and it’s probably nowhere near as bad as Colombia.

Your game instincts will be the best judge for whether it’s likely you’ll see her again or not.

Students:

Is there a campus or student area in which to approach? I certainly didn’t find one. UNAM which is a massive university, is far from the center of the city, at least a 40 minute bus ride. I didn’t go. If anyone has insights into student populations in Mexico City, it would be good to hear.


Night Game

In six weeks, I think I went out to game at night only three, maybe four nights. I planned to go out more, but twice I met a girl in the evening somewhere, but an insta-date consumed the evening instead.

I went out for night game twice on Friday and did the same thing both times. One time led to a bang at 3 am, and the other time almost did.

Go to Gin Gin on Oaxaca around 10 pm. It’s one of the cooler bars in Mexico City. Nice spot. Get a spot at the bar, you don’t need a reservation. Then simply wait, and open a table or set of girls close to the bar.

The first Friday I did that, I opened a set of girls at a table, got a number, but never met her. They left, and then two girls showed up to hang out at the bar. I told one of them to watch my drink while I went to take a leak. When I got back, we got to flirting and talking. After about 45 minutes at Gin Gin, they told me they were going to another bar on Avenida Tamaulipas, called Wallace. I ended up bedding the friend later that night.

The second time, four weeks later, same thing. Opened a set of three girls at a table nearby the bar. They invited me to join their table, then we all went to a bar with live music on Avenida Tamaulipas, called Don Quintin. I wasn’t making inroads, and went to the bar to get a drink. Met another girl and her friend at the bar, chatted them up. I ended up spending the rest of the night with this girl, we made out just about everywhere in the club, danced dirty, had a great time, brought her outside, but couldn’t get her back. It was close.

For some reason though, when I went directly on a Saturday to these same bars on Avendia Tamaulipas, Wallace and Don Quintin, I got absolutely nowhere with girls.

There are also clubs on Oaxaca – I went to Terazza, but honestly you can skip it. It’s a small rooftop and that’s it. It’s so loud you can hardly talk. There’s also Poe which has a 300 peso cover ($15 US) which is high for Mexico City, probably one of the most expensive clubs there, but I chose not to go. I’d rather go to a bar like Wallace, or a bar with live music like Don Quintin, where I’ll have a much better chance to actually meet girls instead of dealing with groups of club girls.

There’s also a bunch of restaurants and bars around the Fuente de la Cibeles. My first week in Mexico City I went to Chuchito Perez. I was invited out there on a Thursday by a girl I met at the place where I was temporarily working, along with her friends.

We ended up moving to Café Paraiso after a cool, hole-in-the-wall dance spot with a Cuban vibe, complete with the waiters outfits and décor and a DJ spinning Cuban music. I would come back here late night one Thursday, if I was to do Mexico City again.

And somewhere in one of the threads I read, “Pata Negra” is a place for easy lays, but when I went on a Saturday night, there were maybe 3 girls in the whole place and 100 dudes. I left after ten minutes. I’m not sure where the easy lays were.

Jagnum’s advice: Start your night on Friday at Gin Gin around 10 pm, and run “sniper game” for tables in the bar vicinity.


Approaching on the street

I wrote a post about this on this thread, but I think approaching on Av. Sonora in Condesa is a good high-density area. The streets Medellin and Monterrey just east of Sonora can be good too, but I couldn’t quite figure out what time is ideal. Sometimes at 4 pm they’d be packed with girls, sometimes at 4 pm they’d be empty.

I also often approached around Alvaro Obregon as well as up and down Orizaba and east and west on Tabasco, which are the three main streets in La Roma. You might find cute girls, but you might have to wait. I approached here in the morning around 9 am, I approached here in the afternoon multiple days around 3 or 4 pm. There’s no best time, or worst time. Simply check out the streets in La Roma when you can afford to spend two hours.

Jangum’s advice: Check out Avenida Sonora weekdays around 12:30 pm to find some talent heading to and from the office around lunchtime, and again in the afternoon at 4 pm.

Most of my game was openers, flirting, and questions I translated into Spanish put onto about 50 flashcards. If you’re interested in these, PM me.

Again Mexico City is weird that some days you might go an hour and see a dozen girls worth approaching, and other days, go two hours and see none. I tend to get approach anxiety if I’m say, on my way to the gym, or running errands, or walking back to a business call, but honestly it’s those moments where you’ll need to act even if you’re wearing shorts and sneakers and walking to the gym.

I never approached on Reforma, which is where there’s a central tourist attraction (the Angel de La Independencia) and a ton of high-rise office buildings. But it’s quite possible that after work one weekday evening could be a good spot to street approach girls leaving work.

Most numbers, unfortunately, didn’t lead to a first date. I think Mexico City and Mexico in general, is a place where street game didn't yield a good return on dates. In one way, the U.S. has an advantage here. That being said, I’m not sure what I would do instead of street game, which brings me to my next point.


Tinder

Never used it. But from what I’ve heard, the girls on Tinder in Mexico City are not cute. I’m not surprised because the average girl here isn’t cute. But when you have to invest as much time as you do running street game to get dates, you may be better off using Tinder.

Sure, you may be able to get a better looking girl from the Street, but with flakes and the amount of time it takes, it’s probably a good idea to add Tinder to your arsenal.

I am a Luddite when it comes to online game. However, if I were to go to Mexico City again, I’d pay for someone to take professional photos and I’d sign up for Tinder. To spare the energy and time of street approaches.

Other venues

I got one girl’s number at Mercado Roma. I got another at a bookstore/library on Alvaro Obregon where she was working by herself; “Excuse me, you seem very focused. Are you writing the next great Mexican novel?” (Credit to Roosh). There are also the girls behind the counters at shops and cafes, as you go about your business. In cases where she shows interest in you, flirt with her for as long as you can, and then, ask for her number. Two of my bangs came this way. The one roommate I had in CDMX for two weeks, got into a serious relationship with a girl he met on his first day here without any game, when he was asking her whether she knew where the “cultural center nearby was for Spanish classes”. She worked behind the counter at a taco stand.


Food

Mexico City has some of the best food I’ve had anywhere. (Although Puerto Vallarta has it beat). You can eat extremely well, for $10, and ridiculously well for $20. I didn’t have any street food there, although I’m sure it’s fine. Perhaps, I was being overly cautious. I would, however, order quesadillas from little “take-out” stands in buildings but without seating space.

I remember ordering a sandwich at a spot in Condesa near Avenida Amsterdam and asking for goat cheese as an extra, and they gave me an entire goat there was so much cheese. The whole sandwich couldn’t have been more than 80 or 100 pesos ($4-5 US).

Tacos are great at El Parnita, the place is packed every day and is only open from 1 to 6 pm.

Mercado Roma has a great falafel place that I went to a bunch.

Anyway, the food in Mexico City is good. You won’t be disappointed.


To summarize

In order of what I would do:

- Starbucks game. An afternoon at Starbucks on Avenida Sonora in Condesa, and there should be good-looking girls to talk to.
- Street game. Be prepared to go two hours to make just one or two approaches. Obviously not sustainable so change up the time of day and location in order to find areas where you can make 6-8 approaches over two hours.
- Girls working game. If you’re getting any signs of interest from a girl who’s behind a counter, flirt with her as long as you can, and then ask her for her number.
- Friday night game. See above for where to start your Friday night in Mexico City.


Despite the flakiness, the large number of 4’s, the extremely dry air, and the crazy drivers, I’d definitely live here again.

There are girls here from all over Mexico (and the world too, although I avoided white girls like the plague), and some of the best bangs I had were here. There are many cool bars and clubs to go, unlike Monterrey or Guadalajara. The girls here are more “liberated", also unlike those cities. A large number of girls I met in Monterrey and Guadalajara were more traditional Mexican no sex until 10-dates type, or will only sleep with guys in their social circle (in those cities it’s best to stick to students, to find the DTF girls).


Outside trips

We took a trip to Cuernavaca, which is a nice little city over an hour away without traffic. Some Chilanga I met on an airplane told me Valle de Bravo is a good spot to relax. Guanajuato (where I lived for a week) is about a four-plus hour bus ride away, but a great weekend getaway. It’s one of the most picturesque cities in Mexico. Playa del Carmen is a flight away. Oaxaca, which I didn’t go, is a place all Mexicans love because it’s the heart of their culture.


PM with any questions. There are a lot of experts on Mexico City here on the forum, I am by no means the only one.

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I doubt the girl your roommate is in love. She's probably looking for an easy way to get out of the taco stand. Hilarious to read though.

How do I know? Experience. Just replace taco stand with bootlegged DVD stand.

The "short dark and ugly" is just another example of mexican hueism/classism.

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Game is the difference between a broke average looking dude in a 2nd tier city turning bad bitch feminists into maids and fucktoys and a well to do lawyer with 50x the dough taking 3 dates to bang broads in philly.
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I've been to Mexico city about 10 times in my life.. My mother is a chilanga.. Dad went here on vacation and brought my mom back to the us after a few month courtship.

Great write up. Classism is dramatic in cdmx. Hop on the metro and ride through the east side and you will see nothing but lower class (short, dark, pudgy). Hang out in Polanco and Condesa and there can be some lookers..

I think coming here as a youth gave me an iron stomach. I drink from rivers, eat anything and everything in India/Latin America and don't get sick.

Oaxaca has the worst talent of any city that I'd love to visit repeatedly.
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Quote: (04-25-2017 09:36 PM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  

I've been to Mexico city about 10 times in my life.. My mother is a chilanga.. Dad went here on vacation and brought my mom back to the us after a few month courtship.

Great write up. Classism is dramatic in cdmx. Hop on the metro and ride through the east side and you will see nothing but lower class (short, dark, pudgy). Hang out in Polanco and Condesa and there can be some lookers..

I think coming here as a youth gave me an iron stomach. I drink from rivers, eat anything and everything in India/Latin America and don't get sick.

Oaxaca has the worst talent of any city that I'd love to visit repeatedly.

There's a Oaxaca data sheet on the forum, and the OP on that sheet mentioned there's talent as you get out to the beach towns there. Curious on your opinion, I didn't get a chance to go to Oaxaca, at least on this trip.

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When you guys say, "dark", do you mean like this complexion:


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Cause that shit is on time for me.
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Oaxaca is phenomenal for culture.. I dont know theres something about it.. I know a few mexican artists and they always flock to Oaxaca.. Beautiful streets, central plaza.. but the quality of women is horrendous, go here but pipeline. day game is a nogo, just so many natives around selling crap.. not sure about nightlife but some high end restaurants with with frescas getting treated by dudes.

to the guy above, dark like that is totally acceptable but she is european descent. talking dark, with even darker eyes. short. pudgy. indigenous.

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Quote: (04-27-2017 06:40 PM)Stakes Is High Wrote:  

Oaxaca is phenomenal for culture.. I dont know theres something about it.. I know a few mexican artists and they always flock to Oaxaca.. Beautiful streets, central plaza.. but the quality of women is horrendous, go here but pipeline. day game is a nogo, just so many natives around selling crap.. not sure about nightlife but some high end restaurants with with frescas getting treated by dudes.

to the guy above, dark like that is totally acceptable but she is european descent. talking dark, with even darker eyes. short. pudgy. indigenous.

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Wasn't that Goldmund guy posting about getting top quality in Oaxaca? It didn't make too much sense to me, then he seemed to get banned in the middle of posting about it and I'm not even sure why he got banned.
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Quote: (04-27-2017 06:52 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Wasn't that Goldmund guy posting about getting top quality in Oaxaca? It didn't make too much sense to me, then he seemed to get banned in the middle of posting about it and I'm not even sure why he got banned.

Just read his trip report to Oaxaca and DF, hadn't read it before. Seemed like a talented guy with helpful info. The one he bedded who he described as a real hottie was from Tijuana (GManifesto has called it a "triple black diamond city"). Not surprised she was from there. But, he met her in Oaxaca. Sounds like he had night game success there using that survey thing and tight game.

@the high - I like darker-complexion girls. Dark isn't the problem in DF. It's the ugly that's the problem. You have to be patient and approach a lot.

My trip in this country is almost complete after three-and-a-half months, but I'll add for the best faces in Mexico, check out the Bajio region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baj%C3%ADo

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Quote: (04-29-2017 01:44 PM)Jagnum Wrote:  

Quote: (04-27-2017 06:52 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Wasn't that Goldmund guy posting about getting top quality in Oaxaca? It didn't make too much sense to me, then he seemed to get banned in the middle of posting about it and I'm not even sure why he got banned.

Just read his trip report to Oaxaca and DF, hadn't read it before. Seemed like a talented guy with helpful info. The one he bedded who he described as a real hottie was from Tijuana (GManifesto has called it a "triple black diamond city"). Not surprised she was from there. But, he met her in Oaxaca. Sounds like he had night game success there using that survey thing and tight game.

What does triple black diamond city mean? Something tells me that it means something other than D grade. Also, SJW stands for soy, John Gayer, and weesh.
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In regards to the night life, you should've went to some of the places I wrote about in the other Mexico City thread instead of the typical tourists places. Terraza Roma is only good on thursdays when they play reggaeton. Thats definitely the night to go. I wouldnt step foot in Don Quitin or Gin Gin unless I was already with a chick.

Take a walk around the corner from Gin Gin and you can find some really decent clubs (Janis,Prinze,Ohana)
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