[weambulance]

United CEO: Man dragged off plane was ‘disruptive,’ ‘belligerent’

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April 11 (UPI) — In an email to employees, United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz said flight crew used proper protocols to address a “disruptive and belligerent” passenger who was dragged off a plane by police.

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Munoz said that when flight crew asked the passenger to relinquish his seat, the man “raised his voice and refused to comply.” Munoz said each time flight crew asked him to vacate the seat, the passenger “refused and became more and more disruptive and belligerent.”

Munoz said the crew was “left with no choice” but to call security officers to assist in removing him from the flight.

“This situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused and it became necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help,” Munoz wrote in the letter. “While I deeply regret this situation arose, I also emphatically stand behind all of you, and I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right.”

Chicago aviation officials placed an officer on leave after the incident.

“The incident on United Flight 3411 was not in accordance with our standard operating procedure and the actions of the aviation security officer are obviously not condoned by the Department,” the Chicago Department of Aviation said in a statement.

The digging continues.

[AlphaRN]

(04-11-2017 11:40 AM)Menace Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 10:30 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-air...drugs-sex/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3043210

The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.

Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.

Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In medical board documents ... Dao denied paying for sex, but indicated he accepted sexual favors from an associate in exchange for reducing a debt that associate owed him.

In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine with some restrictions. Last year, the medical board imposed even more restrictions -- now he can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.

Interestingly, and relevant to the United incident, one doctor assessing Dao's case said he had interpersonal problems, noting "... he would unilaterally choose to do his own thing."

While all that may be true, none of those acts are an affirmative defense that United can use if he chooses to sue.

I would have to disagree. Being a 100-time felon with a history of anger problems and drug abuse just might come back to hurt him.

[The Beast1]

(04-11-2017 11:48 AM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:40 AM)Menace Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 10:30 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-air...drugs-sex/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3043210

The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.

Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.

Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In medical board documents ... Dao denied paying for sex, but indicated he accepted sexual favors from an associate in exchange for reducing a debt that associate owed him.

In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine with some restrictions. Last year, the medical board imposed even more restrictions -- now he can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.

Interestingly, and relevant to the United incident, one doctor assessing Dao's case said he had interpersonal problems, noting "... he would unilaterally choose to do his own thing."

While all that may be true, none of those acts are an affirmative defense that United can use if he chooses to sue.

I would have to disagree. Being a 100-time felon with a history of anger problems and drug abuse just might come back to hurt him.

While the court of public opinion will agree with you, a court of law won't. That's not how our legal system works. Even a convicted felon who has already paid his debt to society deserves an impartial trial by a jury of his peers.

A good lawyer wouldn't allow such information in court and a judge would look dimly on a plaintiff who brought it up.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-11-2017 10:02 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Last year I bought business class tickets to Bogota on American. The plane was late departing from Vegas and the crew had their bags in my overhead compartment (yes the fucking crew) and they made me gate check my carryon (all I had). I was annoyed but when we landed I had a tight connection and I asked the stewardess to tell someone I needed my bag right away. She actually did tell some fat black lady that platinum member and J class customer Fisto needed his carryon and I saw her saw "uh huh" then walk her fat ass up the ramp. I didn't get my suitcase until the whole plane had gotten off. Of course I missed my flight in Miami. I spoke to a lady at the airport and the best I was able to do by running strong game was get a shitty hotel at the airport , meals at a shitty restaurant and a 100 dollar voucher. This is after I explained I'd already paid for a hotel in Bogota and had a surprise etc etc (I was able to change my reservation but because of Platinum status with Starwood). These airlines so not give a shit about you. I now have executive platinum with American and I often feel I'm nothing more than a nuisances to them when I call the dedicated line (both times I called to book a reservation they quoted me prices that were wildly different than the price on American's website)

I won't be pursuing status with them again and will probably match with another carrier like Alaska or Delta or both if possible.

Since First Class died, they simply don't care very much about premium customers.

Most frequent flyers are working for corporations and unable to change much anyway, so why bother.

In addition private jets have begun to become cheaper and you have sites where you can usually buy a leftover flight on a private jet at the price of a business class.

Of course there are ways on how to milk the miles system and why it makes sense for frequent flyers, but you cannot expect first rate service anymore.

[jasond]

(04-10-2017 01:53 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

I have very little doubt in my mind that man is a homosexual.

Rvf strikes true again, correctly identifying the United passenger as a closet gay, just from hearing his girly scream. Amazing work.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-drag...s-for-sex/

"According to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure, Dao was arrested in 2003 on the drug-related offenses following an undercover investigation.

The board’s probe into the criminal charges found that Dao became sexually interested in a male patient, Brian Case, whom he gave a physical examination to, including a genital examination, and whom he eventually made his office manager.

Case quit that job due to “inappropriate” remarks made by Dao, who then pursued him and arranged to give him prescription drugs in exchange for sexual acts, according to the documents, filed last year."

[AFS]

1. If you bought a ticket, and the airline has the capability, they should transport you to your destination.

2. They have no right to throw you off the plane at a whim, regardless of the "fine print" or laws. What if every person on a flight was going to a funeral, or had a medical condition that doesn't allow them to delay travel?

3. Cops have no right to beat a man and drag him from a flight for committing absolutely no crime.

Many people don't have a choice in what flights they take. This could be the only airline servicing this route. Or other options are too expensive. Either way, I can't believe people are making excuses for the airline. This could have been your grandmother or grandfather carried screaming off the plane, or perhaps your son or daughter.

[BrewDog]

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[TooFineAPoint]

(04-11-2017 12:38 PM)AFS Wrote:  

2. They have no right to throw you off the plane at a whim, regardless of the "fine print" or laws. What if every person on a flight was going to a funeral, or had a medical condition that doesn't allow them to delay travel?

They do have a "right", and they can (and will). As this incident proved.

[The Catalyst]

[Cr33pin]

[Kona]

(04-11-2017 12:18 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:48 AM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:40 AM)Menace Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 10:30 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-air...drugs-sex/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3043210

The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.

Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.

Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In medical board documents ... Dao denied paying for sex, but indicated he accepted sexual favors from an associate in exchange for reducing a debt that associate owed him.

In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine with some restrictions. Last year, the medical board imposed even more restrictions -- now he can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.

Interestingly, and relevant to the United incident, one doctor assessing Dao's case said he had interpersonal problems, noting "... he would unilaterally choose to do his own thing."

While all that may be true, none of those acts are an affirmative defense that United can use if he chooses to sue.

I would have to disagree. Being a 100-time felon with a history of anger problems and drug abuse just might come back to hurt him.

While the court of public opinion will agree with you, a court of law won't. That's not how our legal system works. Even a convicted felon who has already paid his debt to society deserves an impartial trial by a jury of his peers.

A good lawyer wouldn't allow such information in court and a judge would look dimly on a plaintiff who brought it up.

So just to clarify, the state of Kentucky admits he is a shitty doctor. They decided that since he sucks at his job, he is only allowed to do it one day a week?

Who besides pill poppers would go to this guy?

Aloha!

[C-Note]

This story is starting to be part of the current culture wars. I'm noticing on social media that since it is coming out that this guy was gay, a bad doctor, and generally shady character, the SJWs are getting defensive about it. I see some good trolling opportunities ahead.

[RIslander]

(04-11-2017 12:26 PM)jasond Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 01:53 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

I have very little doubt in my mind that man is a homosexual.

Rvf strikes true again, correctly identifying the United passenger as a closet gay, just from hearing his girly scream. Amazing work.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-drag...s-for-sex/

"According to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure, Dao was arrested in 2003 on the drug-related offenses following an undercover investigation.

The board’s probe into the criminal charges found that Dao became sexually interested in a male patient, Brian Case, whom he gave a physical examination to, including a genital examination, and whom he eventually made his office manager.

Case quit that job due to “inappropriate” remarks made by Dao, who then pursued him and arranged to give him prescription drugs in exchange for sexual acts, according to the documents, filed last year."

[Kona]

I'm on Dr. Dao's side now more than ever.

His personal situation has nothing to do with any of this. This is just an attempt by the powers that be, who are United shareholders, to discredit him.

And what the hell other kind of doctor can you be in Kentucky? Its a bunch of damn pill poppers living there anyway. They probably bust every single doctor that is related to the judge.

Aloha!

[cascadecombo]

(04-10-2017 06:41 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

Who is masochistic enough to fly though the anus of the planet, O'hare.

I recently had the fortune of getting a layover there, was offered a quicker connection but turned it down since I had never been there and wanted to explore the place. My decision was quickly found to be in poor taste. I'll never stop there again if I have the choice.

[AlphaRN]

Interested to see how his toxicology reports come back. No one in their ``right mind'' acts like a toddler being told to leave a toy store before running up and down the ails of a plane screaming his head off.

[BrewDog]

(04-11-2017 05:55 PM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

Interested to see how his toxicology reports come back. No one in their ``right mind'' acts like a toddler being told to leave a toy store before running up and down the ails of a plane screaming his head off.

I don't know how anyone had any legal authority to demand bloodwork from the man.

[scotian]

^The security dudes didn't seem to have much trouble getting blood from him.

[The Beast1]

(04-11-2017 06:25 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 05:55 PM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

Interested to see how his toxicology reports come back. No one in their ``right mind'' acts like a toddler being told to leave a toy store before running up and down the ails of a plane screaming his head off.

I don't know how anyone had any legal authority to demand bloodwork from the man.

Where was this reported? Blood tests aren't taken in cases like this. DUIs yes, but not getting beaten and dragged from a plane.

There won't be any toxicology reports coming out and in a few months we're going to get a report about how this man got his settlement lottery payout after United's lawyers told Munoz how stupid this whole thing became because he wouldn't shut his mouth.

[Sam Malone]

[weambulance]

(04-11-2017 06:54 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 06:25 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 05:55 PM)AlphaRN Wrote:  

Interested to see how his toxicology reports come back. No one in their ``right mind'' acts like a toddler being told to leave a toy store before running up and down the ails of a plane screaming his head off.

I don't know how anyone had any legal authority to demand bloodwork from the man.

Where was this reported? Blood tests aren't taken in cases like this. DUIs yes, but not getting beaten and dragged from a plane.

There won't be any toxicology reports coming out and in a few months we're going to get a report about how this man got his settlement lottery payout after United's lawyers told Munoz how stupid this whole thing became because he wouldn't shut his mouth.

But I saw on Fox Business a couple hours ago that now Munoz is very sorry and appalled at what happened!



He's appalled that his bonus might take a hit, I'm sure.

[Suits]

I'm switching teams.

Having seen video of the incident, which revealed have shoddily the Vietnamese doctor was dressed, I've decided that he did indeed deserve to get manhandled and thrown off the flight.

I personally never fly in anything less than a suit, because I have class.

Poor people and women in comfortable pants shouldn't be allowed to fly.

[BrewDog]

(04-11-2017 08:11 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Having seen video of the incident, which revealed have shoddily the Vietnamese doctor was dressed, I've decided that he did indeed deserve to get manhandled and thrown off the flight.

Maybe he didn't want to get blood on his nice suit.

[Stun]

[Only One Man]

Fuck this piece of shit doctor. United obviously handled this situation terribly and it never should have escalated to the level it did, but I don't think it's unfair to expect a grown man not to act like a fucking three year old in a difficult situation.

Also, fuck these doctors who illegally or even legally over prescribe the shit out of powerful medications. These scumbags are a big reason why the US has a deadly painkiller epidemic.