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07-06-2017, 03:39 AM
I've thought about the whole business.
As mentioned above, how many people actually pay for the stuff with so much free on the tube sites etc?
I understood how Vivid, Jenna Jameson, Ron Jeremy etc became rich before broadband and cheap hosting etc. But today, there are LOADS of companies, big and small, but how do they make money?
I know people who've made money in porn. But that was more "the olden days". And crime was never that far away. Atleast in the olden days, you could sell the softcore version to cable TV companies.
Vivid and the like seem to be involved in events and stuff. But how does that pay?
In the USA, I notice "starlets" might get a couple of hundred USD for a film performance but charge way more for escorting eg 1000usd per hour. Perhaps that is what funds some/much of it? Thats certainly the case in some countries. But most of these "porn stars" are anything BUT "stars".
I suppose virtual reality and niche markets MIGHT give some money... atleast for a very little while.
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07-06-2017, 05:16 AM
I know a guy who does this, i helped him with the tech side so I have a pretty good grasp of how it's done.
casting women = escorts, cam girls, strippers, sexyjobs.com, eastern europe, ocmodeling.com, hussiemodels.com, and many more adult model casting agencies. Bigger agencies will at first reject you if you have 0 content on your site so you'll need to get rolling with amateur girls. Not surprisingly lots of johns try to book porn star models for escorting which is something they don't like due to the risk and no fame benefit.
equipment = some high end sony camera that was about $3,0000, you could probably get by with a panasonic GH4, a pair of cheap 700w studio lights available on amazon
website = elevatedx.com which is like wordpress for adult sites, lets you setup membership, billing, trials, etc. Used by many big sites. Their server/hosting service is way overpriced, go with vultr.com or digitalocean.com instead
payments/merchant account = ccbill.com is what he uses, oldest and most stable with weekly payments but they charge a higher fee than most. The upside is 0 headaches and it's a trusted name among the few remaining people who pay for porn and is easy to setup with just about any website. There are other options but no sense in fiddling around to say 3% on fees
marketing = uploading clips to all the free porn tube sites, subreddits, forums, and making webm's to post on 4chan's /gif/. These places don't send much sales directly since they are 99% freeloaders but people searching through google for keywords will find them and he gets a lot of sales that way. A clip hosted on pornhub is 500% more likely to show up on the first page than if you hosted that video on your own site. He uses semrush to evaluate the big sites like pornhub, xvideos, etc and then filters by keywords for which ones he should use.
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07-06-2017, 09:56 AM
Is making porn DVD's and selling subscriptions to websites actually still lucrative? There is endless free steaming porn on adult sites. Those sites primarily just get paid by ads since they are covered head to toe in advertisements.
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07-06-2017, 10:37 AM
Quote: (07-06-2017 09:56 AM)General Stalin Wrote:
Is making porn DVD's and selling subscriptions to websites actually still lucrative? There is endless free steaming porn on adult sites. Those sites primarily just get paid by ads since they are covered head to toe in advertisements.
Some independent porn distributors have used the free porn sites as a lead generator for their paid stuff. They ain't living like Kings, but they are not answering to some pointy haired boss...
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07-06-2017, 12:59 PM
I actually did this way back when, but my porn site was weak. I basically created a website dedicated to all the hip-hop based strip clubs in the USA, and you could read and write reviews for free, and there was a forum. Funny thing is girls started promoting their services in my forum. lol. I also had videos that I merely embedded from other websites that showed hip-hop type of girls dancing nude in various clubs, parties, music videos, etc. I didn't make much money at all, just enough to buy a round a groceries each month, because I did not charge for the site. I was worried that people would not want to pay for my weak amateur site that I created in my living room. My revenue came from advertisements, and I used JuicyAds and other third party sites to manage my ads. I had a full time job at the time, and then shut the site down for various reasons. It was fun though. I had quite a bit of users and visitors on a regular basis. I created and ran the site myself, and had to personally approve all club reviews before they were posted to block spam. To this day I still don't think there is another website up like mines that is dedicated to that niche. I have a tech background so it wasn't too bad for me getting the site up, just took time. I may relaunch the site one day, but I will need to make it mobile friendly because I created it before all the smartphones, apps, and iPads came out.
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07-07-2017, 01:28 AM
Quote: (07-06-2017 10:37 AM)crdr Wrote:
Quote: (07-06-2017 09:56 AM)General Stalin Wrote:
Is making porn DVD's and selling subscriptions to websites actually still lucrative? There is endless free steaming porn on adult sites. Those sites primarily just get paid by ads since they are covered head to toe in advertisements.
Some independent porn distributors have used the free porn sites as a lead generator for their paid stuff. They ain't living like Kings, but they are not answering to some pointy haired boss...
Adapt or Die Homie
Saw this also in France, find on porn tubes some french amateur vids that were about 5mn long with some good action, then at the end they used to tell you "for more suscribe to our site...",.
Basically the same group of friends keep fucking pros and "
women who want to try porn once in their boring life" I thought "
there is no way guys be that thirsty to pay that much money to have access to some amateur vids".
The funny part is that the site got no longer new vids but still get subscriptions so... might be interesting to go in...
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07-07-2017, 01:59 AM
If you can produce high quality content, someone will buy it and utilize it.
The problem is most people can't even make a freaking professional sounding podcast let alone a decent looking and sounding porno.
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07-07-2017, 03:52 AM
The big money in this industry as long as you are not the owner of a website like YouPorn or Pornhub is not the production of porn it is buying banner space on these sites and generate sales from the traffic.
Excoclick and TrafficJunky are huge media companies brokering these spaces.
The business model in a nutshell is like this:
1. Have a product to sell. Usually these products are penis enlargement rebill offers or membership to dating websites.
2. Build a landing page/order page for your product
3. Create ad creatives
4. Buy banners space via brokers like Exoclick or if you big enough get a direct deal.
5. Track everything with a tracking tool like Voluum and optimize accordingly.
6. Make more money from your products than you pay for media buys = PROFIT
I met guys at conferences who are making $10k per day with this. However this space is really competitive and you need a lot of cash to buy banner space. Not a field where a beginner can start easily.
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08-15-2017, 08:31 AM
I think the next big thing in porn will be the Netflix model. Pay 10 bucks a month and you get access to every premium porn video from all the studios. Unless someone has already done that.
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08-15-2017, 10:58 AM
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08-20-2017, 06:36 AM
Guys who believe that advances in technologies for the adult entertainment industry will somehow force women to the relationship table when men become less interested in sex with a living female are mistaken. History shows that only one thing effects women's behavior - poverty.
Why would any woman that has her material and economic needs met care about being with a man that would otherwise prefer porn? Not getting laid is a far bigger problem for men than for women.
If you want women's behavior to change, repeal the legislation our beta fathers white-knighted for and take away daddy government's social programs which support, encourage and incentivizes women's eat-pray-fuck carousel riding lifestyles.
Men that opt for porn over pussy are betas that couldn't get it to begin with. Would you care if a fat ugly bitch didn't want to fuck you? No. So don't expect women to care if they lose out on men they'd never look twice at.
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08-22-2017, 05:04 PM
As far as starting your own porn paysite if you don't know much about this I guarantee you will fail or lose money. Do yourself a favor and sign up for another paysites affiliate program and send them sales (earn 50% with no risk). If you can't do this your marketing skills are not good enough to promote your own sites. The other half is shooting the content. The best selling content will be found by you hiring your own girls (which is a skill in itself). If you can do this and sell the content to other people you have the other half nailed down. There is a huge demand for content like this, but not that great of a demand for washed up porn skanks everyone has seen on other sites. Typically someone is good at one thing or the other and hardly ever both. I personally know people who have been in the business for 20+ years and still don't do very sell shooting+selling their own stuff.