I'm sure there are a few of these data sheets out there, and I realize this won't be useful for a year, but it's fresh on my mind and I think it will be quite helpful.
What: Carnival is a giant celebration around the world in the days leading up to Lent. It differs from city to city and country to country, but what I'll be focusing on are the two biggest Carnivals in Brazil, Salvador and Rio de Janeiro.
Safety: A fanny pack will be the best purchase of your carnival. Keep a condom, 100-200 reals, and a phone you don't mind losing. I recommend an old iPhone 4 or 5, you can get a SIM card for $15 with unlimited whatsapp. If you catch someone pick pocketing you, don't try to fight. They will be with a group and that's a quick way to end your carnival. Grab their hand and push it away. If you see a fight, scatter from it. Be careful using google maps for directions. One minute you might feel safe, the next you are in a Favela or on a bridge full of crackheads (that happened). Just be smart and if something doesn't seem right, get out of the situation as quickly as possible. Bring sunscreen, lots of it. 30spf isn't even enough if you are light skinned and you sweat it all off really quickly. Also drink a bunch of water. 35 Celsius combined with lots of alcohol and not enough water leaves a lot of people miserable at Carnival.
You will hate Brazil carnival if:
- You are a germaphobe. You will be waking in literal piss and making out with girls that have kissed quite a few guys already
- You aren't ok making out with 16 and 17 year olds. Age of consent is 14, I'll draw the line at 16 though.
- You get attached to a female quickly. You'll go get a beer and when you return she's making out with another dude.
- You hate sweating profusely. Rio carnival can be as hot as 37 Celsius.
Getting the Kiss:
In a span of about 7 hours between two Blocos, my buddy (roosh forum member as well) and I nearly kissed 100 Brazilian women. This strategy is tried and tested, and trust me, the more you talk the less chance you have with Brazilians.
Step 1: walk up to the group and ask if they speak English. If they say yes, ask their name. They'll ask where are you from. Sometimes only 1 of a group will speak English. She'll get a big smile on her face and swing her body around so it's facing you. Alternatively the friends will grab a girl and push her towards you and say she does. She is the target. If no one does, ask for Spanish if you speak it. Alternatively jump straight in to step 2 with the one you think is hot.
Step 2: At this point either you or your wing will have gravitated to one more closely than the other. The wing then says Beija (kiss) to the unclaimed girls and starts to quietly chant Beija over and over. Normally it doesn't take long, but more and more people join in until it's too much to bare. If she is really against it you can try for a peck or settle for a cheek kiss. Once the first one gets his kiss, you can ask a second for a Beija and she'll either be in or the chant will start again. Depending on the time of the night, this will be basically the end of the interaction.
Step 2 alternative: No one has gravitated particularly and one girl seems into both, just straight up ask her who she wants to make out with. Hint: it'll be the one that made the initial approach, regardless of looks.
Step 3: Collect a whatsapp or Instagram, tell them you want to have a drink with them later in the week, one last makeout and good bye.
Note: at any point if a girl holds eye contact with you, touches you with something, pulls on part of your costume, or shows any interest at all, walk up confidently and start kissing them. I was a block from my hostel and a girl on the sidewalk held eye contact, I walked up, no words were said and a minute later she was against a wall with her hand down my pants and mine down hers. Another time we were in McDonalds at 4 in the afternoon and I started chatting up a girl. A minute later we were making out. (Side note: last night (5 days later) she finally accepted my Instagram request and opened with a Portuguese "hey my good looking love" followed by "I want to be with you." Of course it happened to be the day I left for Buenos Aires)
Also, there is no point in getting jealous it she's making out with another guy right after you. That's what they do, it's the equivalent to hugging someone in the USA and you wouldn't get mad at a girl for hugging someone after she hugged you, would you?
SALVADOR:
Overview: Carnival in Salvador is legit. It doesn't hold back. You need to watch your back at all times, anything in your pocket will be gone within an hour, and you need to avoid the 1984 style marching military police that won't hesitate to start kidney punching you if you get in their way when they are marching through the seas of people. Disclaimer: if you are a gringo they will probably not punch you, rather use their stick to slide you out of the way.
All that said, it's also really fun. There are 3 different areas where the parties happen, although Barra seems to be the go to one for the type of people this forum will be looking for. Basically there is a giant parade with 3 options. The cheapest option is free, just walk with the parade and find a float with music you like. We did that a few nights and had a fantastic time. The 2nd is a bloco, which is a roped off moving parade float. It has bathrooms and open bar and you choose one with the music or artists that you like. It can be 1000s of people inside, so it's possible to lose your friends inside.. not a bad idea to have an area within it to regroup. The final option is Camarotes which starts at about $250. These are stationary bars along side the parade. Think about the two story bars on Bourbon Street with everyone hanging out on the balconies. This includes everything from food to drinks to massages, and can include a-list DJs. Both of the latter options include a tshirt which acts as your ticket. You can also leave and enter both as much as possible, so you aren't just limited to talking to the people inside. Some people also create their own Blocos with rope as well.
Logistics make it a bit tough to get laid here for multiple reasons:
1- You probably don't want to go out alone here, so unless you have a group you are with, hostels may be the way to go. Unfortunately it'll be about the same price as splitting an airbnb, and your chances of getting laid get chopped by probably 66%.
2- Much of the Salvador parties is based on either Blocos or Camarotes, which aren't cheap, with the good ones costing up to $1000. You most likely won't be convincing a girl that paid $300 to leave before the night has run its course.
Where to stay: as close to Barra as possible would be ideal. Galaria 13 was an amazing hostel with delicious breakfast and a pool, but expensive during carnival week, in the wrong neighbourhood, and no guest policy. I also met some amazing people there, so I can't say I regret it. Cabs are non existent at the end of the night, and the only way to get a girl back will be taking separate moto taxis.
Cost: beers are 2 reals each, or 3 for 5 if you push it. Caipirinhas are R$5-10. Accommodation is around $70 usd per person if you split an airbnb or for a dorm room at a hostel. The street meat is delicious and very inexpensive.
Women: the people in salvador are very dark skinned. Luckily if you aren't a fan, there will be lots of girls visiting from other areas so you'll be able to find what you are looking for, just not in the same quantities as Rio.
RIO DE JANEIRO
Rio's Carnival is basically a never ended series of Blocos in different neighborhoods. The website wikirio.com.br as well as their app lists everything you need to know about each bloco, which range from my favorite (and many Brazilians' favorite as well) Sargent Pepper, the stationary Beatles cover band bloco, to a marijuana bloco, to Super Mario bloco. They can range from 100s of people to 10,000s of people. Basically you meet at a start point and the parade marches through the streets with everyone in tow. Some, including my favorite, are set up more like a festival experience with a fixed stage. All along the route there will be food and drink vendors. Some of the Blocos start at 8-9am so don't expect to sleep much. There was one that I had made out with 25 girls before 2pm. I napped afterwords, and am still feeling the sunburn 6 days later.
Where to stay: if you stay at a hostel, you need to stay at Books hostel. It's ridiculous. If you want to bang multiple gringas, this is your place. I slept with 4 girls from the hostel in 6 days, and that was with dedicating basically all of my time to Blocos. If you want to bang multiple Brazilian girls, this is not your place. All that said, if you want to combine the best of both worlds, rent an apartment in Lapa, head over to books to party (open the public), find a couple good wings, plant some seeds with the gringas for later, and don't get sucked into the giant gringo parties where you end up waiting on the street for 2 hours every time you try to get a group together for the Blocos.
Transportation isn't bad in Rio, and logistics are going to vary bloco by bloco so you would be fine in Copacabana, Ipanema, Gloria, or a few other neighbourhoods. Lapa is probably one of the better spots for the nightlife however.
Cost: Beers are R$3 for 10, caipirinhas are 5-10 depending on the size, and tequila shots are 5. Accommodation is $60-100 usd per person if sharing an Airbnb, or $60-80 usd for a dorm.
Women: much more light skinned than up north. You still get some dark, and overall darker than the average American, but for me the further south the girl was from, the better looking I found her to be. Endless gorgeous 17-20 year olds in skimpy clothing. Take advantage of the day time, the quality drops a lot after 10-11pm as the younger ones go home. This is different than salvador since in salvador the party doesn't start until the evening.
Final thoughts:
I recommend staying at least a full week after carnival ends. The Blocos continue until Saturday (there is a massive one at 9am the Saturday morning after carnival ends) and if you follow the above guide you'll have dozens of contacts to follow up with. 10 days would probably be even better. I'm guessing I'd have had about 4-5 more closes at least if i had through next weekend. Every time I go on Instagram I have 3-4 messages from girls I met.
Don't be a pussy. The one who makes the approach is the one that has the best success. I think most people would say my wing is a better looking guy than me, but I ended up with the hottest one on basically all of the sets I opened.
Don't gringo party it up. You are paying so much money to be there, if that's all you want to do just go to a party hostel in Eastern Europe or one of the cheaper South American cities. Or to Rio any other time during peak season, Books will always be a shit show.
Find a good wing or two and make moves. Anything more than 4 or 5 people and it becomes a logistical nightmare to get moving and stay together. If someone is dragging you down, ditch and move on.
Get a SIM card. It'll set you back like $20 for a gig and unlimited whatsapp. Do that everywhere, not just carnival. It's such a minor investment to be able to catch that late night whatsapp or tinder message. I hear too often about people who get home to find out they were being messaged by a girl that wanted to meet up.
Turn your normal pick up brain off. A friend and I were so damn frustrated the first day of carnival because everyone was making out, and we were getting shut down after a really good "western style" 10 minute pick up attempt. I'd estimate you have two freebie sentences, then it's -10% chance every sentence after that, with the odd exception.
Edit: my results were 7 lays in 11 days. 3 Brazilians, 2 Aussies, a Danish girl, and a Brit. See my personal thread for how those when down
What: Carnival is a giant celebration around the world in the days leading up to Lent. It differs from city to city and country to country, but what I'll be focusing on are the two biggest Carnivals in Brazil, Salvador and Rio de Janeiro.
Safety: A fanny pack will be the best purchase of your carnival. Keep a condom, 100-200 reals, and a phone you don't mind losing. I recommend an old iPhone 4 or 5, you can get a SIM card for $15 with unlimited whatsapp. If you catch someone pick pocketing you, don't try to fight. They will be with a group and that's a quick way to end your carnival. Grab their hand and push it away. If you see a fight, scatter from it. Be careful using google maps for directions. One minute you might feel safe, the next you are in a Favela or on a bridge full of crackheads (that happened). Just be smart and if something doesn't seem right, get out of the situation as quickly as possible. Bring sunscreen, lots of it. 30spf isn't even enough if you are light skinned and you sweat it all off really quickly. Also drink a bunch of water. 35 Celsius combined with lots of alcohol and not enough water leaves a lot of people miserable at Carnival.
You will hate Brazil carnival if:
- You are a germaphobe. You will be waking in literal piss and making out with girls that have kissed quite a few guys already
- You aren't ok making out with 16 and 17 year olds. Age of consent is 14, I'll draw the line at 16 though.
- You get attached to a female quickly. You'll go get a beer and when you return she's making out with another dude.
- You hate sweating profusely. Rio carnival can be as hot as 37 Celsius.
Getting the Kiss:
In a span of about 7 hours between two Blocos, my buddy (roosh forum member as well) and I nearly kissed 100 Brazilian women. This strategy is tried and tested, and trust me, the more you talk the less chance you have with Brazilians.
Step 1: walk up to the group and ask if they speak English. If they say yes, ask their name. They'll ask where are you from. Sometimes only 1 of a group will speak English. She'll get a big smile on her face and swing her body around so it's facing you. Alternatively the friends will grab a girl and push her towards you and say she does. She is the target. If no one does, ask for Spanish if you speak it. Alternatively jump straight in to step 2 with the one you think is hot.
Step 2: At this point either you or your wing will have gravitated to one more closely than the other. The wing then says Beija (kiss) to the unclaimed girls and starts to quietly chant Beija over and over. Normally it doesn't take long, but more and more people join in until it's too much to bare. If she is really against it you can try for a peck or settle for a cheek kiss. Once the first one gets his kiss, you can ask a second for a Beija and she'll either be in or the chant will start again. Depending on the time of the night, this will be basically the end of the interaction.
Step 2 alternative: No one has gravitated particularly and one girl seems into both, just straight up ask her who she wants to make out with. Hint: it'll be the one that made the initial approach, regardless of looks.
Step 3: Collect a whatsapp or Instagram, tell them you want to have a drink with them later in the week, one last makeout and good bye.
Note: at any point if a girl holds eye contact with you, touches you with something, pulls on part of your costume, or shows any interest at all, walk up confidently and start kissing them. I was a block from my hostel and a girl on the sidewalk held eye contact, I walked up, no words were said and a minute later she was against a wall with her hand down my pants and mine down hers. Another time we were in McDonalds at 4 in the afternoon and I started chatting up a girl. A minute later we were making out. (Side note: last night (5 days later) she finally accepted my Instagram request and opened with a Portuguese "hey my good looking love" followed by "I want to be with you." Of course it happened to be the day I left for Buenos Aires)
Also, there is no point in getting jealous it she's making out with another guy right after you. That's what they do, it's the equivalent to hugging someone in the USA and you wouldn't get mad at a girl for hugging someone after she hugged you, would you?
SALVADOR:
Overview: Carnival in Salvador is legit. It doesn't hold back. You need to watch your back at all times, anything in your pocket will be gone within an hour, and you need to avoid the 1984 style marching military police that won't hesitate to start kidney punching you if you get in their way when they are marching through the seas of people. Disclaimer: if you are a gringo they will probably not punch you, rather use their stick to slide you out of the way.
All that said, it's also really fun. There are 3 different areas where the parties happen, although Barra seems to be the go to one for the type of people this forum will be looking for. Basically there is a giant parade with 3 options. The cheapest option is free, just walk with the parade and find a float with music you like. We did that a few nights and had a fantastic time. The 2nd is a bloco, which is a roped off moving parade float. It has bathrooms and open bar and you choose one with the music or artists that you like. It can be 1000s of people inside, so it's possible to lose your friends inside.. not a bad idea to have an area within it to regroup. The final option is Camarotes which starts at about $250. These are stationary bars along side the parade. Think about the two story bars on Bourbon Street with everyone hanging out on the balconies. This includes everything from food to drinks to massages, and can include a-list DJs. Both of the latter options include a tshirt which acts as your ticket. You can also leave and enter both as much as possible, so you aren't just limited to talking to the people inside. Some people also create their own Blocos with rope as well.
Logistics make it a bit tough to get laid here for multiple reasons:
1- You probably don't want to go out alone here, so unless you have a group you are with, hostels may be the way to go. Unfortunately it'll be about the same price as splitting an airbnb, and your chances of getting laid get chopped by probably 66%.
2- Much of the Salvador parties is based on either Blocos or Camarotes, which aren't cheap, with the good ones costing up to $1000. You most likely won't be convincing a girl that paid $300 to leave before the night has run its course.
Where to stay: as close to Barra as possible would be ideal. Galaria 13 was an amazing hostel with delicious breakfast and a pool, but expensive during carnival week, in the wrong neighbourhood, and no guest policy. I also met some amazing people there, so I can't say I regret it. Cabs are non existent at the end of the night, and the only way to get a girl back will be taking separate moto taxis.
Cost: beers are 2 reals each, or 3 for 5 if you push it. Caipirinhas are R$5-10. Accommodation is around $70 usd per person if you split an airbnb or for a dorm room at a hostel. The street meat is delicious and very inexpensive.
Women: the people in salvador are very dark skinned. Luckily if you aren't a fan, there will be lots of girls visiting from other areas so you'll be able to find what you are looking for, just not in the same quantities as Rio.
RIO DE JANEIRO
Rio's Carnival is basically a never ended series of Blocos in different neighborhoods. The website wikirio.com.br as well as their app lists everything you need to know about each bloco, which range from my favorite (and many Brazilians' favorite as well) Sargent Pepper, the stationary Beatles cover band bloco, to a marijuana bloco, to Super Mario bloco. They can range from 100s of people to 10,000s of people. Basically you meet at a start point and the parade marches through the streets with everyone in tow. Some, including my favorite, are set up more like a festival experience with a fixed stage. All along the route there will be food and drink vendors. Some of the Blocos start at 8-9am so don't expect to sleep much. There was one that I had made out with 25 girls before 2pm. I napped afterwords, and am still feeling the sunburn 6 days later.
Where to stay: if you stay at a hostel, you need to stay at Books hostel. It's ridiculous. If you want to bang multiple gringas, this is your place. I slept with 4 girls from the hostel in 6 days, and that was with dedicating basically all of my time to Blocos. If you want to bang multiple Brazilian girls, this is not your place. All that said, if you want to combine the best of both worlds, rent an apartment in Lapa, head over to books to party (open the public), find a couple good wings, plant some seeds with the gringas for later, and don't get sucked into the giant gringo parties where you end up waiting on the street for 2 hours every time you try to get a group together for the Blocos.
Transportation isn't bad in Rio, and logistics are going to vary bloco by bloco so you would be fine in Copacabana, Ipanema, Gloria, or a few other neighbourhoods. Lapa is probably one of the better spots for the nightlife however.
Cost: Beers are R$3 for 10, caipirinhas are 5-10 depending on the size, and tequila shots are 5. Accommodation is $60-100 usd per person if sharing an Airbnb, or $60-80 usd for a dorm.
Women: much more light skinned than up north. You still get some dark, and overall darker than the average American, but for me the further south the girl was from, the better looking I found her to be. Endless gorgeous 17-20 year olds in skimpy clothing. Take advantage of the day time, the quality drops a lot after 10-11pm as the younger ones go home. This is different than salvador since in salvador the party doesn't start until the evening.
Final thoughts:
I recommend staying at least a full week after carnival ends. The Blocos continue until Saturday (there is a massive one at 9am the Saturday morning after carnival ends) and if you follow the above guide you'll have dozens of contacts to follow up with. 10 days would probably be even better. I'm guessing I'd have had about 4-5 more closes at least if i had through next weekend. Every time I go on Instagram I have 3-4 messages from girls I met.
Don't be a pussy. The one who makes the approach is the one that has the best success. I think most people would say my wing is a better looking guy than me, but I ended up with the hottest one on basically all of the sets I opened.
Don't gringo party it up. You are paying so much money to be there, if that's all you want to do just go to a party hostel in Eastern Europe or one of the cheaper South American cities. Or to Rio any other time during peak season, Books will always be a shit show.
Find a good wing or two and make moves. Anything more than 4 or 5 people and it becomes a logistical nightmare to get moving and stay together. If someone is dragging you down, ditch and move on.
Get a SIM card. It'll set you back like $20 for a gig and unlimited whatsapp. Do that everywhere, not just carnival. It's such a minor investment to be able to catch that late night whatsapp or tinder message. I hear too often about people who get home to find out they were being messaged by a girl that wanted to meet up.
Turn your normal pick up brain off. A friend and I were so damn frustrated the first day of carnival because everyone was making out, and we were getting shut down after a really good "western style" 10 minute pick up attempt. I'd estimate you have two freebie sentences, then it's -10% chance every sentence after that, with the odd exception.
Edit: my results were 7 lays in 11 days. 3 Brazilians, 2 Aussies, a Danish girl, and a Brit. See my personal thread for how those when down
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