[norberts]

(03-21-2017 03:52 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 01:10 AM)norberts Wrote:  

The guy she introduces to you as her cousin could be her boyfriend or husband!

a situation difficult if not impossible to recover from.

Plus one from me. This is so important and so hard for outsiders to comprehend. I know, I fell for it at one time,

One reason why outsiders don't get it before it is too late is because the way things work in the DR often defies "western" logic. I can't think of another place where being a chapiadora is engrained in culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDOM2vSkkw with chicas affectionately calling their pals chapi. 7s and up will pull requests on you anyway they can especially if they are not middle class and can sense an opening when they test you. Think of it as a critical test and recognize it for what it is. There are few places with a greater sense of nationalism than in the DR, the gringo is deep down an outsider and always will be even when married. There are legit chicas but you have to look hard, often away from tourist type areas. Keep her constantly on her toes, go out often with her in public where she is going to be seen by people who know her (think extended family, friends, co-workers, classmates), keep her guessing and be unpredictable dropping in unannounced if you live outside the DR. If she starts trying to schedule you to certain blocks of days or steering away from places, just know that something is up, find a better one.

Never hesitate to call BS out right away, keep it short, simple and if necessary be ready to send her home without hesitation if she has any BS or attitude. When they know you won't take BS anyway that they try to pass it to you, and that your NO is direct and final without hesitation (for example just say no to Panama, no reason, no explanation -- just like a local would). If you do it right, you'll earn their respect and loyalty all without having to spend money unnecessarily. Learning to say No is key.

(02-16-2017 05:18 PM)Salsero Wrote:  

I'd be interested to hear whether this is perceived as a grey area, or simply requires ruthlesness.

Many posts before this one say this already, your gut feeling already knows it. For the original OP, put aside the "savior" feelings, think like a local dude (chicas over 25 are past their best by date with endless better looking options available) and that will help you decipher the grey areas. If you're going to ask a random local for advice, remember the nationalism bit, they always side with their own unless it's someone who truly has your back. Try the "ruthless" approach the next time and see if she comes back like a boomerang once she calms down from crying or pride. If you're just out to have fun, you're guaranteed to get it one way or another, but if you want anything more and wish to preserve your sanity, adjust your game accordingly.

[Salsero]

Thanks for all the advice. DR chicas are smokin but money hungry.
Following my original post.... - I didn't shell out for any trips, though ultimately she asked for "capital to start a clothing business..." $1000 up front.

I kinda scoffed and told her she could have $100 to buy the first set of inventory and we could work to incrementally continue growth with the proceeds. I haven't heard from her since. Shame really.

Game and girls in the DR requires a certain type of ruthlessness that can't be learned in the first world....
Show her a good time, order in Pizza Hut (they love US fast food), get bottle service at the club so she can take those selfies - but always benefit directly from your expendature with her.