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What are the "pros'" approach to number ratio?
01-24-2017, 10:17 PM
Just curious for the pros out there - what is your approach to number ratio?
Obviously this data will be skewed...like there are those of you who pick up on IOIs easily, and others who "shotgun", but just curious what is a respectable ratio?
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01-24-2017, 10:32 PM
I don't consider myself a "pro", but I have some experience under my belt.
I usually day game, so keep that in mind, but on a good day I'm probably around 80-100%, and on a bad day probably as low as 20%.
That being said, numbers don't mean shit, which is something you learn when you begin to do enough approaches. I think a pretty good player averages 1 lay from every 20 or so truly "cold" approaches.
There is A LOT that goes on from getting the number to actually having sex though, so keep that in mind.
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01-25-2017, 06:48 AM
Here in Korea I'm running like 80%+ because I can just ramble a bit and hand a girl my phone with the keypad open and its never once failed me (any non-number closes were because I didn't go for it for whatever reason). Numbers into dates/sex is way more relevant though. Nobody's ever fucked a phone number.
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01-25-2017, 09:30 AM
I think what the more important question for you is: what an amateurs approach to number ratio is. Go find out and report back here.
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What are the "pros'" approach to number ratio?
01-25-2017, 10:05 AM
Depends what country. In Japan it would be around 100% simply because the contact means absolutely nothing. In Australia it was around 40% for a similar reason (although I'm far from a spam approacher). If you can sustain a conversation there's a high chance she'll give you her number (or a fake one) just to politely avoid breaking the rapport. Its worth noting that in general, the number means nothing. Don't even give it any significance.
A more meaningful figure would be approach to date ratio, followed by date to sex ratio (approach to sex you can count as an 'immediate and successful date' so it tallies both). I don't use either though, I generally think in terms of evenings or hours of work. Either that evening, which you could've spent at home watching interesting YouTube videos, ultimately results in a lay or it doesn't. Either those 4 hours you spent trolling through online dating and messaging results in a date or it doesn't.
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01-25-2017, 03:09 PM
You should not know how many approaches you did in the first place. If you do then it means you have some specific definition what approach is and what it isn't. That will only cripple you.
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What are the "pros'" approach to number ratio?
01-26-2017, 10:17 AM
If you simply use 'apocalypse opener' you would bang one 1/15-20 girls as opposed to 1/50 by number/date/bang approach
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01-26-2017, 01:22 PM
Not even sure it's worth dragging tinder into this conversation if it's supposed to be about 'game' and cold approach.
Tinder is simply looks based. People get laid non-stop from tinder without having game but simply being very good looking.