[Benelli]

Hey,

First post - I have high expectations! Been reading a bit on the forum for the past two weeks, lots of valuable info here. Decided to register due to:

1. Two weeks ago, in the beginning of august, I'm out clubbing with some friends.

2. I approach a really cute girl who was smiling at me. We talk for a bit, I make some joke and it's a generally funny and cool conversation. I'm about to leave and she says I can add her on Facebook. Sure, whatever.

3. I add her (limited settings, I can't see her profile pic but assume it's her , which I mention in a short message). I also touch on a previous conversational topic in a funny way. It's the right girl, and she accepts and replies within a day or so. Don't remember exactly.

4. I realize I've been talking to a 9. Boom. She was dressed in a pretty indie outfit where we met, and "covered herself up". I think she might even have fake tits and many facebook pictures display her in various upscale venues/restaurants/locations - lots of LV/gucci bullshit. Kind of nouveau riche style.

5. I let two days pass and joke some more, but abruptly cut off the topic and just suggest we should meet up for a drink some time.

6. She replies four days later. Funny, humorous tone - and ends with "why not have a drink.." and some thing about good locations she knows of and ends with "XX".

This is where I need your jedi master wisdom.

Is the ambivalence, aloofness I'm sensing in her reply (lack of enthusiastic "Fuck yea, let's meet up right now!") a sign of non-interest or is she simply playing the "cool cat game"? Sure, who replies overly enthusiastic..

Maybe she's above my league. Attached is an image of her. Maybe a little more tanned as when I met her.

I'm a good looking guy bla bla bla, have labia-wettening skillz/hobbies I'm letting girls "discover" without bragging, dress well and never have a problem talking with/entertaining girls. I'm just a control freak (maybe I think too much) - It's like I need to decide on her level of interest before I even make my next move.

I am new to game. Maybe this is why I also over-think some things, and look for the wrong cues. I have not really had a problem hooking up with girls before, but have still been laying on the soft side - I realize the potential in gaming girls and how much funnier life becomes when using this mindset.


[EDIT] She's three years older than me, judging by her profile information

[ElJefe]

She's not playing any games with you. Not yet. There's a reason for that. Cool girls are, strangely enough, cool.

She's probably got the friends she needs and no shortage of male attention givers. You haven't shown you're higher status than her, so she's not feeling any need to impress you, although you've already made a good first impression. You still have to deal with her being a possible flake and not really being serious.

This is what your first date is going to accomplish. You don't get laid if you aren't above her league. That's why they say fake it till you make it. As a rule girls go after higher status men. You are going to communicate your HIGHER status to her during that date through body language, cocky/funny humor and being a genuinely cool guy. You'll tease her, kino, and get her tingling. You'll continue going two steps forward, one back - kissing would be good (but, and I disagree with Roosh here, I don't feel it's 100% necessary first date - whatever suits yours style).

So wait at least a day or two to respond so you don't give off the vibe of being too eager. You have to be cool with any outcome - no big deal. Then accuse her of taking you to these spots just so she can get you easily drunk and take advantage of you - or that she might in fact be some kind of psycho who's going to bash you over the head with a bat as soon as you show up in her hood (if she lives in a nice area, tell her it's a ghetto, etc.).

This will set the scene for you qualifying her and establishing your higher status.

If she flakes after you've set up a time, do not respond to her "cancel" text or call until 10-15 minutes before the date. Then the one word reply: "gay" is fine.

After you've been out once, you'll know how well you did if she shoots you a message within a few hours after.

PS. And don't tell her your age. For any reason. If she asks, just accuse her of fantasizing about hooking up with older guys.

[Samseau]

What is the question here? What the hell are you babbling about? You got the date. Don't try and figure out if she's cool or ambivalent towards you FROM A FUCKING FACEBOOK MESSAGE. How can you judge some text on the screen? You need more info. Once you see her in person you'll be able to handle the rest.

If you like any of the places she suggested, take her there. If not, take her somewhere else. Take a xanex before you go on the date and have a good time.

[Benelli]

And you said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.