[Latinopan]

(12-23-2016 06:49 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 05:20 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Many Europeans wants Europe to be more like United States Of America, they want it to be an United State Of Europe, Schengen is a way to simulate the way Americans can freely move from one state to the next. The Euro is a way to simulate the USA dollar. Many now are calling for a EU super state, and a EU army.

However they don't understand they don't have the American culture, they don't have the gun culture.

The UE, and the Schengen zone is a pirated version of United States.

The EU is the version of the USA that the liberal left would want to live in. Basically one bureaucratic monster of a Marxist nanny state. Thank God and our founders for the first and second amendments. Because both are sorely lacking in Europe.

Bottom line is that the USA cannot be copied without going through the type of conditions that led to its creation. Liberation from British tyranny created a mindset and perspective of the world that is unique. You can bitch and moan about the current state of the U.S. but as someone who had to earn the privilege I can assure you that it is extremely exciting to become an American. It's not exciting to become a German or a French. It's very nice and it buys you a lot of 1st world privilege. But America stands on its own - it has an inherent spirit that until recently was envied by the rest of the world.

That in fact should be our goal. To once again stand as #1 and to be the envy of the rest of the world.

Which is why liberals in the USA want America to be more like EU, they want the same kind of laws implemented in the EU, massive regulations, they don't get the USA is able to be because the way it was designed. Take for example the recent election, Hilary won popular vote, but USA president is elected by electoral college, so liberals in California and coasts cities don't get to dictate what people in Wyoming are able to do.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There is a gofundme for the family of the driver - a worthy cause, because the government support in Poland is crap and life insurance is certainly minimal:

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They already collected 130k and this is fantastic, because it will go a long way in Poland. The driver did what he could and I really think that the terrorist wanted to drug the driver, thus put the blame on him and flee.

[url=https://twitter.com/ViveCharlieMag/status/812322786756542464]

Refugees Welcome update pic.

[Glaucon]

Weep for what was, will never be again...

[redpillage]

(12-24-2016 03:02 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

Weep for what was, will never be again...

Those Germans do not exist anymore and they will never come back. You cannot impose a collective inherited guilt complex on an entire population and expect it to come out psychologically and culturally intact. A lot of damage has been done and the wounds are deep.

Of course that was the entire idea in the first place. Not sure if many of you guys know that the 'made in Germany' label was imposed on German manufacturers by the Allies. No German business was allowed to sell its products abroad without labeling it as being 'made in Germany'. Of course that in the end completely backfired as it became known as a label of quality and durability. As opposed to avoiding German products people started to seek them out as they were superior.

I have often been rather harsh on the Germans and I believe with reason. However, if you consider what Germany has been through since shortly after these scenes were filmed then it's rather astounding that there still is a Germany left. It lost two world wars and was harshly punished each and every time, having to pay reparations for decades on end. Culturally it was completely ripped to pieces and humiliated by the systematic de-nazification process post WW2.

Then its remaining territory was cut in half and one part basically was turned into a prison slash socialist experiment. Then over 30 years later the economically Western half had to reintegrate an economically decimated Eastern half which incurred huge expenses and effort plus the social effort to bring millions of separated families back together.

Eager to leave its dark history behind Germany joined the European Union and soon dominated due to its superior manufacturing base and economic strategy. Which however turned it into the paymaster of Europe and it got stuck with handing tens of Billions of Euros to the PIGS members, well knowing that it most likely would never ever get a cent of it back.

Just a few years later Merkel opens the floodgates as she decided to offer free lodging, health care, education, and other perks to pretty much all of the Middle East and the African continent. And once again the Germans took on the challenge of another generational project, but this time one that may actually wind up destroying them.

Consider for a moment that all of the above happened to a relatively small European nation in the timespan of 101 years (i.e. 1914 - 2015) - almost exactly one century. And also consider that 'Germany' as we know it wasn't really a country until the roughly the 1880s.

A lot of nations have gone through hardship during their existence but I think the last century has been rather rough on the Germans. They just can't get a break. Be this due to its own ambitions or because of external meddling, it's probably a combination of both.

As a final point. There are certainly forces in the world that want to see Germany destroyed and one could argue that they have succeeded or are least are getting pretty close to finishing the job. Many sympathizers of that destruction (for whatever reason) may however have lost complete sight of the myriad of cultural contributions that Germany bestowed on the world prior to 1914. It once was called the country of thinkers and poets (Dichter und Denker) and for a reason. By destroying this cultural legacy the world seems to want to cuts its nose off to spite its own face.

And of course in today's 'modern enlightened' world the destruction of an entire people would be called genocide and thus not permitted. The initial strategy was to keep them distracted and politically/socially divided. But then a new strategy was considered, instead of controlling Germany or perhaps having to face it head on again in the distant future (economically or militarily) it was decided to slowly turn the Germans into something else - something less German and less threatening. And thus began the globalist initiative of multi-culturalism based on lessons already learned from France, Great Britain, as well as the United States.

In essence the realization was that a people with an average IQ of roughly 110 would always represent a threat and thus had to be 're-engineered' into something else. It started with the Turks, then with Eastern and Southern Europeans, but the most effective results seemed to be produced by Middle Eastern Muslim as well as North African tribes who couldn't be more different from Germanic people.

[Parzival]

With Germany its like this high skilled kid that lives in a bad surrounding. In some good cases the kids get out there and use his skills and talents to rise. In some others its beaten down like a dog from the other kids still it turns mad.

[void]

@redpillage: Nice summary. The plan of the Allies to have a weak Germany already backfires, considering 9/11 was partly enabled by enrichers from Hamburg/Germany. The same is valid for the attacks in France, which were also enabled or done by immigrants using Germany to live in or enter Europe.
Pray for a recovery, imagine what happens if Germany disintegrates again. Europe will go back to war times.

[redpillage]

(12-24-2016 10:45 AM)void Wrote:  

@redpillage: Nice summary. The plan of the Allies to have a weak Germany already backfires, considering 9/11 was partly enabled by enrichers from Hamburg/Germany. The same is valid for the attacks in France, which were also enabled or done by immigrants using Germany to live in or enter Europe.
Pray for a recovery, imagine what happens if Germany disintegrates again. Europe will go back to war times.

Absolutely. If Germany falls then the rest of Europe will be embroiled in conflict and war for many generations. Unfortunately I don't think it cannot be saved at this point as that ship sailed thirty years ago. The genetic transformation that has been seeded since the 1970s is almost impossible to reverse now and is only accelerating. It would take a civil war on the scale and bloodshed of Yugoslavia. And we all know the UN would not tolerate that.

[Easy_C]

(12-23-2016 02:49 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 10:22 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Yeah, keep in mind that the people who actually carry out the attacks are usually morons, mind controlled by those who have a little bit more game. I'm speaking from experience and not conjecture. It was the same way in places I've been (some which are the same places these "refugees" hail from). Regardless of the organization, the foot soldiers in Islamic countries are usually barely literate, not very smart in terms of book knowledge or common sense(though usually very clever at subterfuge and theft), and incel due to Muslim polygamy and wife trading.

Kind of like dealing with US gangs. Even if this guy did it, it doesn't mean much. They guy was a low IQ patsy who doesn't know much.

The guy with a high IQ in Islam is usually at the top or he leaves Islam. The leaders of ISIS are certainly smarter, but there are probably infested with globalist secret service agents so that their reports are probably going everywhere at night.

Either way - the guy was held up by two Italian cops because they suspected him of doing a burglery (maybe he hid on a private property). He started firing and shot one cop in the shoulder and a young cop trainee killed the bastard. If the Jihadi were a better shot, then he might have taken out both cops, but that is easier said than done.

Yep....and now you're starting to understand it.

It's not even debatable if you're well read. There's a number of books out there (don't remember titles, my family had them) from people who were familiar with how Mossad would use double agents to subvert and influence Islamic terror cells.

Look into that a little bit deeper. You'll discover something that I know about because I was told by somebody, but I'm not comfortable saying very often on the web. If you think I'm implying something big you're on the right track.

[LeeEnfield303]

(12-24-2016 10:45 AM)void Wrote:  

@redpillage: Nice summary. The plan of the Allies to have a weak Germany already backfires, considering 9/11 was partly enabled by enrichers from Hamburg/Germany. The same is valid for the attacks in France, which were also enabled or done by immigrants using Germany to live in or enter Europe.
Pray for a recovery, imagine what happens if Germany disintegrates again. Europe will go back to war times.

Very interesting that a system of checks/balances and demilitarizing (both physically and mentally) between the European countries themselves (to prevent another world war) would leave Europe as a whole supine for outside invasion again, as in the 1200-1600s.

[void]

In a chain, the weakest member decides where it breaks. The same applies to Europe, the EU and EURO. Military strength is no indicator how a country handles it's business. Look at Poland, Czech-Republic, Hungary, they also have a weak military. The determining factor is the mindset, and Germany has been trained to be a cuck since the end of WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazifica...tive_guilt
The Allies should have tried to establish a neutral Germany, like Switzerland. Would have been better for everyone in the long run.

France is fucked over by how they handle their former colonial history.

[Enigma]

Some members of the religion of peace enriched a church in a small town in the southern Philippines on Christmas Eve, spreading the gifts of Allah to at least a dozen people. How many attacks... ahem, cultural celebrations (successful and attempted) does that make in the past week? I guess we can look forward to more of this diversity in holiday seasons to come.

[Rocha]

(12-24-2016 06:03 PM)void Wrote:  

In a chain, the weakest member decides where it breaks. The same applies to Europe, the EU and EURO. Military strength is no indicator how a country handles it's business. Look at Poland, Czech-Republic, Hungary, they also have a weak military. The determining factor is the mindset, and Germany has been trained to be a cuck since the end of WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazifica...tive_guilt
The Allies should have tried to establish a neutral Germany, like Switzerland. Would have been better for everyone in the long run.

France is fucked over by how they handle their former colonial history.

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

Also from the same linked Wikipédia article:

The term denazification was first coined as a legal term in 1943 in the Pentagon, intended to be applied in a narrow sense with reference to the post-war German legal system. Soon afterward, it took on the more general meaning.[1]

Very soon after the program started, due to the emergence of the Cold War, the western powers and the United States in particular began to lose interest in the program, and it was carried out in an increasingly lenient and lukewarm way until being officially abolished in 1951. The American government soon came to view the program as ineffective and counterproductive. Additionally, the program was hugely unpopular in Germany and was opposed by the new West German government.

So, blaming and unpopular political program, closed in 1951 for the events going on today...

[LikeABaller]

(12-23-2016 08:51 AM)Samseau Wrote:  



If this is actually the real culprit, then rest in hell.

Why does schengen need to get banned?

Why is it Muslims cause us to lose all of our freedoms?

Can't use an airport without getting a radiation wave, or your entire body frisked. Can't buy a gun. Can't use facebook or twitter freely. Can't have open air Christmas markets. Can't have trucks on normal roads anymore.

Why can't we just ban Islam and Muslims? Way easier and more effective than any of these half-assed measures.

Banning Islam will not solve any problem, a new one will pop up. Just like how jews were the "culprits" in 1940's, the new scapegoats are Muslims. When you get rid of the muslims a new problem will arise. There will be always blood on the face of this earth, I've lost faith in humanity and don't give a fuck about political matters anymore.

In 40's it was the jews, after that it was the communists, after the soviet union collapsed suddenly muslims started blowing themselves up in the name of jihad Why didn't these suicide attacks take place prior to 1989 when islamists were one of the biggest allies of the capitalists and the west?

Heck the U.S government gave stinger to the Taliban so they can shoot down Russian planes.

[chakalaka]

(12-24-2016 10:05 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 03:02 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

Weep for what was, will never be again...

Those Germans do not exist anymore and they will never come back. You cannot impose a collective inherited guilt complex on an entire population and expect it to come out psychologically and culturally intact. A lot of damage has been done and the wounds are deep.

Of course that was the entire idea in the first place. Not sure if many of you guys know that the 'made in Germany' label was imposed on German manufacturers by the Allies. No German business was allowed to sell its products abroad without labeling it as being 'made in Germany'. Of course that in the end completely backfired as it became known as a label of quality and durability. As opposed to avoiding German products people started to seek them out as they were superior.

I have often been rather harsh on the Germans and I believe with reason. However, if you consider what Germany has been through since shortly after these scenes were filmed then it's rather astounding that there still is a Germany left. It lost two world wars and was harshly punished each and every time, having to pay reparations for decades on end. Culturally it was completely ripped to pieces and humiliated by the systematic de-nazification process post WW2.

Then its remaining territory was cut in half and one part basically was turned into a prison slash socialist experiment. Then over 30 years later the economically Western half had to reintegrate an economically decimated Eastern half which incurred huge expenses and effort plus the social effort to bring millions of separated families back together.

Eager to leave its dark history behind Germany joined the European Union and soon dominated due to its superior manufacturing base and economic strategy. Which however turned it into the paymaster of Europe and it got stuck with handing tens of Billions of Euros to the PIGS members, well knowing that it most likely would never ever get a cent of it back.

Just a few years later Merkel opens the floodgates as she decided to offer free lodging, health care, education, and other perks to pretty much all of the Middle East and the African continent. And once again the Germans took on the challenge of another generational project, but this time one that may actually wind up destroying them.

Consider for a moment that all of the above happened to a relatively small European nation in the timespan of 101 years (i.e. 1914 - 2015) - almost exactly one century. And also consider that 'Germany' as we know it wasn't really a country until the roughly the 1880s.

A lot of nations have gone through hardship during their existence but I think the last century has been rather rough on the Germans. They just can't get a break. Be this due to its own ambitions or because of external meddling, it's probably a combination of both.

As a final point. There are certainly forces in the world that want to see Germany destroyed and one could argue that they have succeeded or are least are getting pretty close to finishing the job. Many sympathizers of that destruction (for whatever reason) may however have lost complete sight of the myriad of cultural contributions that Germany bestowed on the world prior to 1914. It once was called the country of thinkers and poets (Dichter und Denker) and for a reason. By destroying this cultural legacy the world seems to want to cuts its nose off to spite its own face.

And of course in today's 'modern enlightened' world the destruction of an entire people would be called genocide and thus not permitted. The initial strategy was to keep them distracted and politically/socially divided. But then a new strategy was considered, instead of controlling Germany or perhaps having to face it head on again in the distant future (economically or militarily) it was decided to slowly turn the Germans into something else - something less German and less threatening. And thus began the globalist initiative of multi-culturalism based on lessons already learned from France, Great Britain, as well as the United States.

In essence the realization was that a people with an average IQ of roughly 110 would always represent a threat and thus had to be 're-engineered' into something else. It started with the Turks, then with Eastern and Southern Europeans, but the most effective results seemed to be produced by Middle Eastern Muslim as well as North African tribes who couldn't be more different from Germanic people.

These people fucked Europe 2 times in a time span of 30 years. And probably we will have a 3rd time. How Merkel influenced the refugees decision to come to Europe by her "open arms" policy. Let´s cut the crap with the germans. They are no innocents. No innocents at all.

[void]

I can testify, that WWII feels like the biggest and only topic in history classes, and you get hammered in your brain that something like "that", has to never happen again. If we watched movies, it was Schindler's List or if we had to read a book in German classes, they were often about Nationalism or rather that Nationalism is bad. I don't know what they teach in schools nowadays, but in retro-spection the priniciple of "collective guilt" was well and alive during my school years. We were not allowed to be proud of our country, because people did horrible things decades ago. If you are proud to be German, you are a Nazi.
We are at fault, for not establishing a proper national identity in the long run, and probably never will.

[RexImperator]

[reciproke]

If I despise one thing more than the masochistic selfhate indoctrinated by German society and education, it's this whiny victim mentality and the wallowing in self pity about what used to be. It's the same difference. Lukewarm nostalgia and romanticism is a sentimentality we can't afford now.

I am concerned about what is going to be in 40-50 years, yes. Demographics aren't looking good, yes. But I haven't seen any evidence yet that literally everything is futile. And without this evidence I see everything less than trying as defeatism. Daydreaming too.

Let me be clear. I'm not going to fight wind mills and will bounce to Eastern Europe as soon fighting the good fight means pointless self destruction. I consider this option also for my future family.

Sweden is worse off, more PC and more feministic, they were completely neutral in the last century. France, Great Britain and the US have their own problems. There is no german "Sonderweg". Cultural Marxism and Political Correctness is an international phenomenon. Conservative Eastern Europe is a bulwark against cultural marxist globalism.

The next year will be massively important, the elections in France and Italy will have massive impact on the future of the EU. Don't forget the german election, so let's not cry wolf now.

We as Germans should learn from Trumps victory. Speak out, voice your opinion and draw a line in the sand. It will show others that there are people who aren't following social conditioning and encourage them that not everything is lost, yet. And it will sow doubt in the hearts of our opponents.
I'm not planning to discuss here longer as I'm sub two fiddy posts, but my German comrades seriously need a stern "Vorwärts, Soldat!".

[Travesty]

I agree with some of the above. Germans have proven more than a few times now they can't handle power well. I think they should be split into smaller nations with less power and influence.

Like being sent in the corner.

[Valentine]

(12-24-2016 06:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

You're clearly quite unaware of the global propaganda campaign to create guilt in Germans that they were complete evil racist aggressors in the World Wars and that this was the only reason why they occurred.

You're also clearly unaware that the migrant invasion is planned by global powers decades in advance and supported by multiple countries governments, banks and corporations. Try glancing over this 500+ page thread to catch up on these facts.

[LikeABaller]

German guys are just too nice haha. I don't think this has anything to do with white/nazi guilt though. Men seem to be getting more feminine across the globe, and women more masculine. The only exception are the people in wartorn areas, because over there survival instinct kicks in, but in the west where there is no threat of war/invasion that instinct does not kick in.

How come there is white/nazi guilt but no jihad/islamist guilt? Can you see my point now?

Fuck imagine 200 years ago, a man had to be physically strong in order to make good money. But what about todays world? You can be a nerd who sits on his ass all day and studies, then go to college and you can still make good money, so the result is we have overweight feminine dudes.

[Rocha]

(12-24-2016 09:06 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 06:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

You're clearly quite unaware of the global propaganda campaign to create guilt in Germans that they were complete evil racist aggressors in the World Wars and that this was the only reason why they occurred.

You're also clearly unaware that the migrant invasion is planned by global powers decades in advance and supported by multiple countries governments, banks and corporations. Try glancing over this 500+ page thread to catch up on these facts.

Yes I am aware of all that. Actually just checked and I have 64 posts on that thread...

I think that as a matter of fact you are the one unaware on the lack of naivety and perversion of Germans... i have been repeatedly saying that they are no snowflakes...

There is of course amazingly bright, genuinely good and beautiful German people, and the positive contributions they gave to mankind are undeniable, Kant, Schoppenauer, Bach, Goethe, Guttenberg, Einstein, Beethoven, Wagner, Hesse, Nietzsche, Benz, Daimler, Planck, Kinski, Oberth, even warriors and leaders such as Rommel, Frederik, Bismarck, von Blucher...

On the other side...Hitler, Merkel, Dirlewanger, Barbie, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengele...


You still think that a country capable of producing all of these names and more (good or bad does not matter) is made of special brainwashed snowflakes??

[Valentine]

(12-24-2016 09:43 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:06 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 06:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

You're clearly quite unaware of the global propaganda campaign to create guilt in Germans that they were complete evil racist aggressors in the World Wars and that this was the only reason why they occurred.

You're also clearly unaware that the migrant invasion is planned by global powers decades in advance and supported by multiple countries governments, banks and corporations. Try glancing over this 500+ page thread to catch up on these facts.

Yes I am aware of all that. Actually just checked and I have 64 posts on that thread...

I think that as a matter of fact you are the one unaware on the lack of naivety and perversion of Germans... i have been repeatedly saying that they are no snowflakes...

There is of course amazingly bright, genuinely good and beautiful German people, and the positive contributions they gave to mankind are undeniable, Kant, Schoppenauer, Bach, Goethe, Guttenberg, Einstein, Beethoven, Wagner, Hesse, Nietzsche, Benz, Daimler, Planck, Kinski, Oberth, even warriors and leaders such as Rommel, Frederik, Bismarck, von Blucher...

On the other side...Hitler, Merkel, Dirlewanger, Barbie, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengele...


You still think that a country capable of producing all of these names and more (good or bad does not matter) is made of special brainwashed snowflakes??

The outliers you've named do not define the whole population.

Likewise you can look at all of RVF as outliers in their respective countries. How a few exceptional men think is in no way indicative of the whole.

And the whole will absorb the propaganda, as is the same for every single red pill topic we discuss on the forum.

The difference between other countries and Germany is that they have had a massive dose of guilt propaganda. Noticing that but still putting the blame entirely on Germans is illogical.

[Rocha]

(12-24-2016 09:56 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:43 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:06 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 06:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

You're clearly quite unaware of the global propaganda campaign to create guilt in Germans that they were complete evil racist aggressors in the World Wars and that this was the only reason why they occurred.

You're also clearly unaware that the migrant invasion is planned by global powers decades in advance and supported by multiple countries governments, banks and corporations. Try glancing over this 500+ page thread to catch up on these facts.

Yes I am aware of all that. Actually just checked and I have 64 posts on that thread...

I think that as a matter of fact you are the one unaware on the lack of naivety and perversion of Germans... i have been repeatedly saying that they are no snowflakes...

There is of course amazingly bright, genuinely good and beautiful German people, and the positive contributions they gave to mankind are undeniable, Kant, Schoppenauer, Bach, Goethe, Guttenberg, Einstein, Beethoven, Wagner, Hesse, Nietzsche, Benz, Daimler, Planck, Kinski, Oberth, even warriors and leaders such as Rommel, Frederik, Bismarck, von Blucher...

On the other side...Hitler, Merkel, Dirlewanger, Barbie, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengele...


You still think that a country capable of producing all of these names and more (good or bad does not matter) is made of special brainwashed snowflakes??

The outliers you've named do not define the whole population.

Likewise you can look at all of RVF as outliers in their respective countries. How a few exceptional men think is in no way indicative of the whole.

And the whole will absorb the propaganda, as is the same for every single red pill topic we discuss on the forum.

The difference between other countries and Germany is that they have had a massive dose of guilt propaganda. Noticing that but still putting the blame entirely on Germans is illogical.

Everyone knows that the main target for subversive anti-propaganda where, are and will always be the Russians. Yet, compare them to Germans as a country and as a people...
The propaganda about Germany crimes, is more or less on the scale Portuguese people, Spanish, French or British receive regarding their colonial past and crimes, Germans suffer no more than any other former major European super power in this regard.

Also, much more Russians where killed in WW2 comparing to Germans, so this puts also aside the theory that only the weak genes survived WW2, this is also put aside by the excellence of Germans in sports, countless of gold medals (for both RFA, RDA and unified Germany) post WW2...

There is something more going on in here than simply blaming propaganda on Germans presumed weakness. Many times I look and interact with a German, which occurs much more often than I wanted to... I sense a potentially perverse soul...

[T and A Man]

Yeah, I don't think the likes of Leonhard Euler or Joseph-Louis LaGrange were deadlifting muscle men, they were the equivalent of nerdy guys studying, and probably earned more than most brawny labourers.

Guilt, well its an advanced emotion that self regulates poor behaviour, the unfortunate thing is it can be exploited.

Germans feel that they should never revisit one aspect of their past, its being exploited that they shouldn't embrace any aspect of their past, despite Germans having a great legacy of art and science.

Muslims not having any guilt, well wherever there is Islam, there is trouble. Pretty much every area where Islam borders non-Islam there is conflict, and many Muslim areas have secular conflict as well.

Lack of guilt probably explain the lack of failing to reflect on the turmoil they cause, hence they continue to revisit the civilisation destroying behaviour they are notorious for.

[Valentine]

(12-24-2016 10:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:56 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:43 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 09:06 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-24-2016 06:16 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

You guys continue to blame todays Germany demise regarding rapefugees on external powers intervention, and brainwashing of German citizens. Seriously, I think everyone here should stop with that cold shoulder. The blame is on Germans and no one else.

You're clearly quite unaware of the global propaganda campaign to create guilt in Germans that they were complete evil racist aggressors in the World Wars and that this was the only reason why they occurred.

You're also clearly unaware that the migrant invasion is planned by global powers decades in advance and supported by multiple countries governments, banks and corporations. Try glancing over this 500+ page thread to catch up on these facts.

Yes I am aware of all that. Actually just checked and I have 64 posts on that thread...

I think that as a matter of fact you are the one unaware on the lack of naivety and perversion of Germans... i have been repeatedly saying that they are no snowflakes...

There is of course amazingly bright, genuinely good and beautiful German people, and the positive contributions they gave to mankind are undeniable, Kant, Schoppenauer, Bach, Goethe, Guttenberg, Einstein, Beethoven, Wagner, Hesse, Nietzsche, Benz, Daimler, Planck, Kinski, Oberth, even warriors and leaders such as Rommel, Frederik, Bismarck, von Blucher...

On the other side...Hitler, Merkel, Dirlewanger, Barbie, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengele...


You still think that a country capable of producing all of these names and more (good or bad does not matter) is made of special brainwashed snowflakes??

The outliers you've named do not define the whole population.

Likewise you can look at all of RVF as outliers in their respective countries. How a few exceptional men think is in no way indicative of the whole.

And the whole will absorb the propaganda, as is the same for every single red pill topic we discuss on the forum.

The difference between other countries and Germany is that they have had a massive dose of guilt propaganda. Noticing that but still putting the blame entirely on Germans is illogical.

Everyone knows that the main target for subversive anti-propaganda where, are and will always be the Russians. Yet, compare them to Germans as a country and as a people...
The propaganda about Germany crimes, is more or less on the scale Portuguese people, Spanish, French or British receive regarding their colonial past and crimes, Germans suffer no more than any other former major European super power in this regard.

Also, much more Russians where killed in WW2 comparing to Germans, so this puts also aside the theory that only the weak genes survived WW2, this is also put aside by the excellence of Germans in sports, countless of gold medals (for both RFA, RDA and unified Germany) post WW2...

There is something more going on in here than simply blaming propaganda on Germans presumed weakness. Many times I look and interact with a German, which occurs much more often than I wanted to... I sense a potentially perverse soul...

It's very difficult to quantify propaganda but the propaganda about WWII really is incomparable compared to that of what any of these other countries have had to deal with.

To this day it's highly taboo and even illegal to dispute the Holocaust, and being called a Nazi is one of the greatest insults you can make.

The brainwashing effect of this propaganda is so powerful that even in the past few weeks we've seen the Left use these on Trump and Spencer and successfully incited huge online mobs against them.