[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Interesting if disturbing sidebar - Evalion, the neo-Nazi chick whose photo was the first in the OP, had her laptop seized by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) when trying to re-enter Canada from a trip in Germany.

I point this out not because I have any real sympathy for her specifically - I don't - but because I'm starting to wonder if, soon enough, adherence to manosphere/alt-right viewpoints is going to start being regarded by Western intelligence and domestic security services as akin to Islamic jihadist ideology. At least in Canada, it is already widely known that many of the white supremacist organizations in this country were Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) fronts.

We already have multiple leftist journalists talking about the "radicalization" of young white men by the manosphere/alt-right, drawing parallels between them and the young Muslim men going to Syria to fight for ISIS or conducting terror attacks at home. Then you also have to consider that in places like Canada or Britain or Australia, there exist nowhere near the same levels of protection of free speech that you would see in the United States.

No doubt there are more than a few people who would love to see ordinary members of our movements being targeted for 'deradicalization.'

[DevilsMoJo]

Alt right girls aren't about race or servitude (leave that shit to the Democrats)

They're willing to defend themselves with guns, rightly call out RINOs as cucks, expose SJWs as misogynists, and vote against Obama/Hillary

[cascadecombo]

^why does that sound like just another form of what was 'feminism'

[TooFineAPoint]

(12-17-2016 01:51 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

there are more than a few people who would love to see ordinary ALL members of our movements being targeted for 'deradicalization.'

Fixed

[Leonard D Neubache]

My concern. In terms of red-pill ideology where do these women fit in real life?

Red-pill women are theoretically meant to be subservient to an alpha husband. How pray tell does an alpha husband handle a million guys staring at his wife's tits all day on youtube? Either I'm too alpha to tolerate that kind of thing or I'm not alpha enough but that's the trouble. It's getting hard to tell which is which.

Older, uglier women preaching the red-pill? Fine. I get it. They've earned the role of the wise elder. Girls like Southern? I don't wish harm on them, really, but they're soft porn and unfortunately they will also detract from the message of the smarter yet less pretty women who actually have merit.

They're here. Sure. But I'm not bothering to visit their channels or upvote them. Go to wise men for wisdom. Go to XVideos for the tits.

[fokker]

WB Millennial Millie and Faith Goldy.

[Lunostrelki]

Real "alt-right" girls are the kinds that don't care about politics because they're too busy with the kids, setting the house in order, and socializing with other girls of their class.

Even according to MSM polls, upwards of 80% of married women supported Trump IIRC. The fact that less than half of women total supported him shows how dysfunctional sexual relations in our country have become.

[Le Sigh]

There's already an *alt-right* female figure attention whore psyops (((troll))):

His name is Milo.



Sorry bitches, the position has been filled.

[Delta]

(12-16-2016 12:50 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

I want to talk about the rise in alt right female personalities. Do you think these are attention whores who are just look to jump on the alt right. These girls can spew alt right talking points in get as many views as senior alt right members. We need to be cautious about the beta males in our ranks given these girls more attention that they deserve.

You're vastly overestimating the influence and attention these girls are garnering. The first video has 11k views only because it has the most clickbaity title in the history of the universe, and the second chick only has 425 views despite being hot (yes she is, I don't care what any of you say).

And for those who could bring themselves to watch these videos, they're unbelievably stupid. These girls are not intellectual figures, they're low grade online attention whores.

[Samseau]

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We don't know for sure what these girls are doing in their private lives, but I'm open to giving them the benefit of the doubt. Remember, if you were a woman alive today, you'd have a hard time finding a true benevolent alpha male to marry.

[John Michael Kane]

(12-20-2016 01:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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We don't know for sure what these girls are doing in their private lives, but I'm open to giving them the benefit of the doubt. Remember, if you were a woman alive today, you'd have a hard time finding a true benevolent alpha male to marry.

You can laugh all you want, but despite all our railing against feminists and SJW's, there are certainly a minority of American women worth looking over. What are the exact percentages? Who knows? Still, in my own social circle I know a dozen plus married couples where they got married young and already have kids. Most of these girls are in their mid-20's to late 20's. I find it a bit pedantic to suggest that there are zero conservative women worth giving a chance in the United States. You're not a reductionist thinker Samseau, that much I know. The next generation belongs to those who show up, and moving abroad and having a location independent income isn't an option for most men. For any man wishing to start a family, that means he has to shop within the market that is available to him. Do you honestly think the two women in the original post wouldn't be opened to being a benevolent alpha male's wife? My guess is that they are publishing what they are in large part to attract that kind of man.

It is a brilliant marketing strategy by that measure.

They expand their social circle through political activism, thus exposing themselves to more men who think like them, and from there, picking one. They are running girl game at a fairly high level. My only problem with them doing so would be if it comes out that they are just sleeping around and doing it for the attention, and never get into a LTR/marriage. If they are pushing 30 and have never had a LTR, then, by all means, heap scorn on them. If they are using their publicity to attract and pick a man, what's wrong with that? Remember, women don't go out and actively "game" like us. Their method of locking down a man is fairly passive, that is, to pick from what's available (and makes a pass at them). They are expanding the number of men who make a pass at them. They run the risk of becoming attention whores if they never pick anyone, but hopefully they have a good father figure that shows them there is more to gain by locking a good man down than having the fleeting attention of many.

[Cattle Rustler]

I can count with one hand the number of High School Sweetheart wives who look "WB" nowadays. And with each year the number goes down. 18-21 was a rude transition, these bitches did not know the consequences of drinking all those carbs.

[heavy]

Depends who you're talking about...case by case.

Ann Coulter obviously knows her stuff. She's a 1%er of females nerdy enough to dive into the nuances of public policy.

The small players aren't converting or convincing anyone important. I'd say the more normal down to earth babes arguing our points for us are merely sign that the culture is shifting. As noted above, normal down to earth would be ones who want and have husband and kids (someday).

[Samseau]

(12-20-2016 02:36 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(12-20-2016 01:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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We don't know for sure what these girls are doing in their private lives, but I'm open to giving them the benefit of the doubt. Remember, if you were a woman alive today, you'd have a hard time finding a true benevolent alpha male to marry.

You can laugh all you want, but despite all our railing against feminists and SJW's, there are certainly a minority of American women worth looking over. What are the exact percentages? Who knows? Still, in my own social circle I know a dozen plus married couples where they got married young and already have kids. Most of these girls are in their mid-20's to late 20's. I find it a bit pedantic to suggest that there are zero conservative women worth giving a chance in the United States. You're not a reductionist thinker Samseau, that much I know. The next generation belongs to those who show up, and moving abroad and having a location independent income isn't an option for most men. For any man wishing to start a family, that means he has to shop within the market that is available to him.

And the market is dead.

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Do you honestly think the two women in the original post wouldn't be opened to being a benevolent alpha male's wife?

No, otherwise they'd be married right now.

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My guess is that they are publishing what they are in large part to attract that kind of man.

Looking for the best sucker.

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It is a brilliant marketing strategy by that measure.

Gold-digging never changes.

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They expand their social circle through political activism, thus exposing themselves to more men who think like them, and from there, picking one. They are running girl game at a fairly high level. My only problem with them doing so would be if it comes out that they are just sleeping around and doing it for the attention, and never get into a LTR/marriage. If they are pushing 30 and have never had a LTR, then, by all means, heap scorn on them. If they are using their publicity to attract and pick a man, what's wrong with that? Remember, women don't go out and actively "game" like us. Their method of locking down a man is fairly passive, that is, to pick from what's available (and makes a pass at them). They are expanding the number of men who make a pass at them. They run the risk of becoming attention whores if they never pick anyone, but hopefully they have a good father figure that shows them there is more to gain by locking a good man down than having the fleeting attention of many.

The amount of makeup they wear suggests they are in it more than just to find a husband.

But more to the point, the idea that women have a difficult time finding a benevolent alpha to marry today is absolutely preposterous.

There has never been an easier time for an America women to find a man today. American woman today have more options than any of her ancestors by a factor of 1000x. The dating market is so stacked in favor of females it's not even funny. It's not even worth debating. Just laughing at, hence the original gif.

[John Michael Kane]

(12-20-2016 02:45 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

I can count with one hand the number of High School Sweetheart wives who look "WB" nowadays. And with each year the number goes down. 18-21 was a rude transition, these bitches did not know the consequences of drinking all those carbs.

Drinking, especially in excess certainly creates flabby arms and legs. I lived in Chicago where many of the girls there can drink the men under the table. Too much cold weather and not enough exercise, compounded with booze makes for flabby bodies.

That also speaks to the men they are dating. The average man in the US is flabby. Why should he expect a fit woman if he doesn't hold himself to a high standard? Since I've worked on my game and exercised more, I attract higher quality women than I used to. People like winners. If you are a winner (fake it till you make it if you have to), you can be more selective about who you date, much less who you marry.

That also speaks to an important point that many men fail to take into consideration. When you are a dating a woman, make sure you test her! Take her out for hikes deep into the wilderness, play basketball with her, do couples yoga. See if she is responsible to staying active and fit. If the answer is anything but a strong "yes", then you have a high-risk woman for getting fat in a few years. Men lead, women follow. If a man lead and a woman doesn't follow, next her. Repeat the process till you find one that does follow.

[John Michael Kane]

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And the market is dead.

Dead in many instances? Absolutely I agree with you. Dead across the board? Absolutely not. If you live in a major urban center where everyone is trying to live the Sex In The City lifestyle, of course you'd think that. There are still pockets of conservative people throughout the United States who are counter cultural. Have you ever been to rural Idaho? Lots of young, married couples out there. They don't make much money, but many live happy, genuine lives.

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Do you honestly think the two women in the original post wouldn't be opened to being a benevolent alpha male's wife?

No, otherwise they'd be married right now.

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My guess is that they are publishing what they are in large part to attract that kind of man.

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Looking for the best sucker.

Since when is trying to find a man to marry looking for a sucker? That is double-speak. You can't blame a woman for sleeping around and not getting married, then say she's up to no good by wanting to find a stable man to settle down with. Which one is it? Men and women are both looking for the best deal our combined assets will grant us. We all settle on some front, because none of us are perfect 10's.

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It is a brilliant marketing strategy by that measure.

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Gold-digging never changes.

So, by expanding their social circle and access to high-status men, they are automatically gold-diggers? When I go out and network with successful businessmen, am I a gold digger too? We all want to have successful friends, and women have a strong incentive to find a man who can provide. If these women are ignoring perfectly good middle-class men that are making a pass at them, then you have a point. A woman in it only for the money isn't worth marrying. Still, we don't know the details of their personal lives. If they have a boyfriend or not. If they demand expensive jewelry or not. That's up to the men who date them to find out. A certain amount of graciousness, while at the same time keeping your eye open for red flags is part of what makes a Red Pill man RP.

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They expand their social circle through political activism, thus exposing themselves to more men who think like them, and from there, picking one. They are running girl game at a fairly high level. My only problem with them doing so would be if it comes out that they are just sleeping around and doing it for the attention, and never get into a LTR/marriage. If they are pushing 30 and have never had a LTR, then, by all means, heap scorn on them. If they are using their publicity to attract and pick a man, what's wrong with that? Remember, women don't go out and actively "game" like us. Their method of locking down a man is fairly passive, that is, to pick from what's available (and makes a pass at them). They are expanding the number of men who make a pass at them. They run the risk of becoming attention whores if they never pick anyone, but hopefully they have a good father figure that shows them there is more to gain by locking a good man down than having the fleeting attention of many.

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The amount of makeup they wear suggests they are in it more than just to find a husband.

Strongly agree they could cut down on the makeup. Not to my taste. That being said, I've known at least two girls that come to my in my close social circle who also wore too much makeup, but were also feminine and sweet. Both are married. One has two kids already before 30. The one who got married just last year posted this week on facebook she's having a child and can't wait to be a mother. Sorry to say, but bad makeup skills isn't a reliable indicator that a woman is a horrible human being.

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But more to the point, the idea that women have a difficult time finding a benevolent alpha to marry today is absolutely preposterous.

There has never been an easier time for an America women to find a man today. American woman today have more options than any of her ancestors by a factor of 1000x. The dating market is so stacked in favor of females it's not even funny. It's not even worth debating. Just laughing at, hence the original gif.

Yes and no. Yes, desirable women have lots of choices in the internet age. The corollary to that is that men who are the "complete package" in the internet age also have tons of options. Both men and women (especially the highly desirable ones) exercise too much choice in the current market. One of the biggest all-time players I've ever known marketed himself as a benevolent alpha male type. Social, sweet talking, good looking and made decent money. He constantly strung one woman on at a time, pretending that they were going to get married, etc. All the while, he already WAS MARRIED to a wonderful woman with two kids that he cheated on constantly. He used his desirability to rack up notches after marriage.

There are good men out there who want to get married, for sure. I agree with you on that point. But many of them never had masculine influence in their lives, and are often weak men. They don't understand what attracts or keeps a high quality woman. Many have social issues. Millions of men are addicted to porn, substance abuse, gambling and other problems. Are the women of America perfect little angels? Absolutely not. I'd wager to say a very slim minority of them are worth marrying. Still, to claim that the average American man doesn't have any work to do to make himself desirable or well-rounded is certainly a one-sided tale.

[Roosh]

Here's one. She's more anti-SJW than alt right.

[Laner]

(12-20-2016 08:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Here's one. She's more anti-SJW than alt right.

I know lots of women like her.

Half Asian so: Asian mother and white father who would have been an adventurous alpha. Parents still together; mixed marriages with Asian females have among the best chances of staying together.

I do know some turbo libtard Asian hapas though, but its because their dads are pussy white guys and the mother a Tiger Mom.

For white guys to marry Asians in the 80's took some social risk. They had to have a certain amount of Zero Fucks in order to make it work, which in turn made the marriage work, which in turn made their daughters quick and bright with a lot of daddies girl bundled in.

Also: WB. Good Laaaawd I would bang so bigly

[John Michael Kane]

She points out the importance against female promiscuity and speaks against single moms. Says family matters most. I'd date her and if she is a real talker in real life, wife her up and put 10 buns in her oven.

[262]

Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

You'll also note that most posters who've spent time in the Game know the real deal, and are calling it out. QC's statement in the schism thread applies to girls even more than men - judge them by the character of their actions, and not their politics, which can change on a whim.

That's also why I have little respect for politics posters who've barely spent time in the other parts of the forum. I'll take the rare SJW who Games, lifts, has style, and gets paid, over the politics poster who happens today to be on the right, but barely does any of these. Much easier to bring the former to the right than to get the latter to action, aside from "raising awareness" by posting (though my guess is they'll be ironically silent in this case, as has happened in the past on these call outs).

[TigerMandingo]

(12-21-2016 06:16 AM)262 Wrote:  

Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

You'll also note that most posters who've spent time in the Game know the real deal, and are calling it out. QC's statement in the schism thread applies to girls even more than men - judge them by the character of their actions, and not their politics, which can change on a whim.

That's also why I have little respect for politics posters who've barely spent time in the other parts of the forum. I'll take the rare SJW who Games, lifts, has style, and gets paid, over the politics poster who happens today to be on the right, but barely does any of these. Much easier to bring the former to the right than to get the latter to action, aside from "raising awareness" by posting (though my guess is they'll be ironically silent in this case, as has happened in the past on these call outs).

How do you know that just because guys don't post in the game forum much they are automatically losers?

I'm 6'3, probably more jacked and better looking than you and post exclusively in the EE/politics forums.

Bring it

[nomadbrah]

(12-21-2016 06:16 AM)262 Wrote:  

Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

You'll also note that most posters who've spent time in the Game know the real deal, and are calling it out. QC's statement in the schism thread applies to girls even more than men - judge them by the character of their actions, and not their politics, which can change on a whim.

That's also why I have little respect for politics posters who've barely spent time in the other parts of the forum. I'll take the rare SJW who Games, lifts, has style, and gets paid, over the politics poster who happens today to be on the right, but barely does any of these. Much easier to bring the former to the right than to get the latter to action, aside from "raising awareness" by posting (though my guess is they'll be ironically silent in this case, as has happened in the past on these call outs).

You're so full of passive aggressive bitchiness, it really is getting embarassing. You don't know shit about the posters in the politics forum.

I know about you that you nickel and dimed yourself to a savings account like a good little boy and have lived in Poland for a year or two, where else? I have been self employed location independent for more than 5 years and lived abroad for the better part of 10 years. You don't know any of the motivations of why politics posters don't write more personal stuff, but it is really embarassing when you think you are in some position to lecture when it's quite possible you're behind the curve.

[Il Bersagliere]

(12-21-2016 09:39 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 06:16 AM)262 Wrote:  

Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

You'll also note that most posters who've spent time in the Game know the real deal, and are calling it out. QC's statement in the schism thread applies to girls even more than men - judge them by the character of their actions, and not their politics, which can change on a whim.

That's also why I have little respect for politics posters who've barely spent time in the other parts of the forum. I'll take the rare SJW who Games, lifts, has style, and gets paid, over the politics poster who happens today to be on the right, but barely does any of these. Much easier to bring the former to the right than to get the latter to action, aside from "raising awareness" by posting (though my guess is they'll be ironically silent in this case, as has happened in the past on these call outs).

You're so full of passive aggressive bitchiness, it really is getting embarassing. You don't know shit about the posters in the politics forum.

I know about you that you nickel and dimed yourself to a savings account like a good little boy and have lived in Poland for a year or two, where else? I have been self employed location independent for more than 5 years and lived abroad for the better part of 10 years. You don't know any of the motivations of why politics posters don't write more personal stuff, but it is really embarassing when you think you are in some position to lecture when it's quite possible you're behind the curve.

[Roosh]

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Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

And we just bang them if we want while keeping them away from the platforms directly.

[Laner]

(12-21-2016 10:39 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Since Roosh seems to be correct in his assessment that more of these chicks seem inevitable, I say let the Gameless men fawn over their new waifus.

And we just bang them if we want while keeping them away from the platforms directly.

Exactly. For every one of these women jumping onto this bandwagon, there are likely 100 more who just feel relieved that they can finally speak their mind a bit, perhaps just enough to find a guy that is not a pussy.

Its been discussed both on this forum and in private that the amount of women that flocked to us since Trumps election win has been astounding. For the past year and half, all those silent women were actually making an internal stand.

And they chose to come with us. But don't think for a second that means I will let women into my book club, mens club (RVF Tribe) or here on this forum. Its also nice knowing that exactly zero of the women in my life have ever, or would ever, ask to be a part of it in the first place.