[federernadal]

So Ive tried usual venues such as the gym, coffee shops, meetup.com, but any other ideas? I tried the mall but honestly it is too hard to tell if someone is underage so I just avoid the interaction.

I have much stronger belief in daygame as it catches women off guard (as opposed to being the 29th guy to approach her in the bar).

I like local events, but being a smaller sized city those are few and far between.

So where do I meet a girl in her early 20s?

[TornadoByProxy]

You need to learn to search the forum better. This is your second thread asking a question easily answered via search. I'm not trying to be too hard on you. But you aren't going to get nearly as many responses to your one, single, specific question as you will mining the thousands of threads that already exist.

Find a thread with a similar theme and ask your question there if you have to.

For this question, the short answer is social circle game. Join interest groups and network through them. Middle America (and the world in general) are becoming more insular.

[federernadal]

I'm just looking for places where I can try stuff like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuE_VSfR_cQ&t=179s

And Social circle game sounds like the antithesis of day/cold approaches. That is what I am specifically after.

[Turnus]

Downtown areas, shops. sporting events, concerts, volunteer events, classes, grocery stores. Basically any place people gather.

[wi30]

Universities and Community Colleges.

[realologist]

(12-16-2016 09:02 PM)federernadal Wrote:  

I'm just looking for places where I can try stuff like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuE_VSfR_cQ&t=179s

And Social circle game sounds like the antithesis of day/cold approaches. That is what I am specifically after.

That is false. Social circle allows approaches to come to you. Allows girls to come in warm. Allows you to lock down certain places. That's what small town Midwest game is about.

You can cold approach but if you shotgun it you will get a bad rep and that spreads very quickly in small Midwestern towns. Social circle counters that by looking like you are just a friendly guy that talks to everyone.

Then when you hit all these events that people mention it's more likely you know somebody that can get you in free/discounted and hook you up, introduce you to people (girls).

[federernadal]

I may have given the wrong idea of the size of the city I am in. The population here is 500k+ if you include suburbs. It would take me quite a while to develop a rep no matter how hard I shotgun!

I get social circle game, but if/when things go sour it seeps into that social circle as well, so I like cold approaching.

[realologist]

(12-20-2016 01:01 AM)federernadal Wrote:  

I may have given the wrong idea of the size of the city I am in. The population here is 500k+ if you include suburbs. It would take me quite a while to develop a rep no matter how hard I shotgun!

I get social circle game, but if/when things go sour it seeps into that social circle as well, so I like cold approaching.

Bigger than I thought. I was thinking more like 250k.

I would throw in a few approaches to what you are already doing. Throw a few into the grocery store, mall. Find any free or cheap events and game there. Once the "spring fever" hits go to parks or any outside. Always a good mine for chicks ready to get some dick once the weather warms up.

[LeoneVolpe]

^ Agree with grocery stores being a good resource, especially in the Midwest.

Anybody remember when The Fonz took Richie to the supermarket to pick-up chicks?

Start at 3:49

[federernadal]

Alright, I may be beating a dead horse but I really dont get it. Maybe its because it is the winter so everyone is inside, but today after work I head to Barnes and Noble (drove out of my way) - NO prospects. Then go to a grocery store - NO prospects. Then go to the gym - NO prospects.

What am I doing wrong? I only have a few hours after work between like 5-8 to daygame, and I am seeing zilch. Where should I be going to maximize my chances to see talent? Or are there times where you just "charge it to the game" and move on?

[LeoneVolpe]

^ All shopping centers experience a natural lull after the holidays. Until the cold weather breaks and/or people's finances stabilize post-Christmas spending, don't expect to see a whole lot of people out and about right now. Have you tried online game?

[federernadal]

Nah Im not interested in doing online game. Nothing against those who do, but I love the excitement I get from cold approaching. I mean, surely the hundreds of hot girls out and about downtown on Saturday night cant just be holed up at work/home all day during weekdays. Where do they go? Perhaps I am in the wrong gym? Wrong grocery store?

[LeoneVolpe]

Trust me, I'm all for doing cold approaches -- but if the weather's too cold, no one's going to be walking around outside. You've got to supplement your game somehow. But to each his own, if online game isn't for you, it isn't for you. I think a lot of chicks find themselves a "holiday boyfriend" to get them through the winter months that they can conveniently dump once spring/summer rolls around and return to ho'ing around with their slutty friends.

[federernadal]

Actually every time I go to the mall (weekday or weekend) I see some prospects (whether they work there or are shopping). But there are only 2 malls in this city and I cant justify just going to malls on a daily basis. Just feels weird to be a "regular" at a mall. Perhaps I need to find a coffee shop. Or maybe this is my body's way of expressing approach anxiety. I am automatically only going to places where I wont find prospects?

[LeoneVolpe]

^ Don't adopt a defeatist mindset about it. As with most things in life, there are fertile and rest periods. If things aren't coming along on the approach front as much as you'd like, develop yourself in another way for the time being. Perhaps you could read some books you've been putting off, or take up a new hobby or something? Having a wide array of interests will not only help you seem more interesting to chicks, you'll truly become more interesting as a result of such pursuits.

[federernadal]

Alright, I just want to punch myself in the face. Went to the gym, hot girl by herself giving decent vibes to me, DID NOT approach (even though had plenty of opportunity - blew it by telling myself "oh shes wearing headphones"). Then another decent looking girl who was also working out near me etc, DID NOT approach ("oh she has a tattoo, not my type").

I just really want to kick myself between the legs. Last cold approach I did was at the gym couple weeks ago (they were 2 college girls, didnt number close and wanted to kick myself after too).

This must be the most common problem ever, and with solutions all over the place, but just felt like I needed to put in a rant against myself someplace. Perhaps it will help.

[federernadal]

Back at the gym at the same time to redeem myself. Sure enough, the second one from yesterday is there!!!

She came a bit late, so I was already 45 mins into my workout. Ran around doing random exercises for 45 more mins, and she is still on the treadmill...at this point I remember a guy has to lead and not time his actions based on what a women is doing (and Im also really hungry) - so go right up to her as she is on the treadmill (she is incline walking not running) and say "I find you attractive so I needed to flirt with you". She smiles.

Turns out to be pretty cold throughout the approach, looking all over the place, expressionless etc. I had a slight smile throughout trying to make conversation, and finally just say "let me get your facebook." She gave it right there. Looks single. I added her, but have not been added back (I actually had another gym approach a few weeks ago not accept my fb request later on).

Either way, whether this goes anywhere or not, I feel good! Especially because I have been down for this last month since another girl I went out with (no bang) stopped answering my texts and is now with another guy.

THANKS ROOSH!

[federernadal]

Looks like she's not going to add me on Facebook either. Kind of expected that. Oh well.

[federernadal]

How do the pros get over rejection? A girl I went out with picked another guy over me and it's got me down, which surely is affecting my game and possibly other things too... What's the fastest solution?

[realologist]

Another girl is always the fastest solution.

But trying to get to the root of the problem is bigger.

Find out what it take to be the other guy. The frame you have is all wrong already. You should be in the mindset of choosing the chicks. Not them choosing you vs. all the other guys she has lined up. Just that will help put you as "the other guy".

Work on attraction and playing with/on the EMOTIONS of these girls along with the frame change. Once you do that the number of times you are "the other guy" will go up.

[Turnus]

Gotta give you props for that gym approach, but man, I'm not sure if that was the right opener to use in that situation. Maybe something light and funny and then dropped the 'I think your attractive approach'. Have an abundance mindset to get over the rejection. Time to find the next one.

[federernadal]

Any further inputs on where I should spend the 3-4 hours of my weekdays? I remember when I went to a festival in this city and SOOO many hot girls popped up! I was like, "where do you girls vanish during normal days??"

So I thought about it like a girl - where would I go if I were a girl during the day? Gym, supermarket, bank...any other ideas? Im always coming up dry when I go to these places.

Also, please dont say bars/clubs. I STRONGLY prefer day game. Much more colorful, and night game has alcohol involved, crazy drunk orbiters and what not. Day game is what separates the great players from the good ones IMO.

[realologist]

(01-26-2017 11:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  

Any further inputs on where I should spend the 3-4 hours of my weekdays? I remember when I went to a festival in this city and SOOO many hot girls popped up! I was like, "where do you girls vanish during normal days??"

So I thought about it like a girl - where would I go if I were a girl during the day? Gym, supermarket, bank...any other ideas? Im always coming up dry when I go to these places.

Also, please dont say bars/clubs. I STRONGLY prefer day game. Much more colorful, and night game has alcohol involved, crazy drunk orbiters and what not. Day game is what separates the great players from the good ones IMO.

Find out popular after work restaurants and bars that are busy during the week. Most of these are in downtown spots or business sectors. Not quite night game because people are there immediately after work so they don't plan on getting drunk and it's still early.

[federernadal]

That would get expensive quick, and I dont really like alcohol...looking forward to warmer weather and just headed out to the parks and stuff. Unless anyone has other ideas?

[realologist]

(01-27-2017 07:24 PM)federernadal Wrote:  

That would get expensive quick, and I dont really like alcohol...looking forward to warmer weather and just headed out to the parks and stuff. Unless anyone has other ideas?

The thing about getting girls is not doing what makes you comfortable. It's about doing what's uncomfortable because it works. You keep doing that uncomfortable thing until it becomes comfortable.

You clearly want girls to be where you want to go but that's probably not happening at the rate you want. To catch the prey, you have to be where the prey is or you will never get the results you want with women.