[Altrighter]

So, we all know a good-paying job raises your SMV, a great motorcycle, etc. But those are things that, while we have to work on them, takes time for us to accomplish. Even getting buffed might take some time if you're not taking steroids and have the right genetics (I'm an ectomorph myself and have a hard time at the gym).

What are the things you can do to raise your SMV fast? Game, of course. But how about doing some martial art? Getting a tattoo? I'm asking for ideas.

Just in case you're wondering I'm on a LTR with a girl that has a higher SMV (by Heartiste's test I'd rank as a classic beta and she would be a higher beta/lesser alpha; even though I see myself as a higher beta because I dont take shit from women - including her - and like to lead, also have a good number of lays; i really think that test is skewed towards the american reality, in Brazil we dont need that much cocky and funny). Got and keep her through game (being demanding, leading, always showing less affection and being firm with her whenever she does something I dont like). The thing is, I think she is starting to catch up on the fact her SMV is higher and I need to raise mine.

[presidentcarter]

What martial art do you plan on learning overnight?

General grooming and fashion (I'd classify tattoos as fashion) are the only quick fixes I can think of.

Rest of it you got to work for (sexual market VALUE).

[Altrighter]

You won't get good on any martial art from day 1, but the simple fact you're doing some raises your value in her eyes.

[Matrixdude]

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[Simeon_Strangelight]

First - the language used by you shows that you need to read up on Game. Check out rationalmale.com.

Your assessment of calling your girl a "Beta or Alpha" is already wrong. Women have a different grade - they should always be a Beta to your Alpha. Her market value is derived from her beauty, fitness and youth. She may very well be an 8 or who knows a 9 who you got young. A 10 is a personal 9. Also an 8 could already work as a model if tall enough.

Your market value is not only derived from your looks, but also height, personality (the more cocky, self-confident etc.), your Game, your money, your job, your family, your friends, your social status etc. So essentially you may be looks wise below her, but that does not mean that you are in raw market value. But to assess that you need to learn more about the Red Pill.

It seems that you are concerned about her leaving you for someone better. First rule:
1) Never mateguard - that reeks of desperation and Beta-state. Some lesser Alphas do it too, but it seldom works.
2) You go about and have your own goals, let a woman be your side-dish and not the main one. That is what attracts women to you.

That means the best way to raise your SMV is to have goals in life, start working out, start slimming down if overweight, start learning fun stuff you would like to do (if somewhat attractive to women - playing computer games will be fun to you, but will not raise your SMV), become someone "who is going places". Learn Game and become better with women, learn concepts of Game. Be more dominant with your girl, fuck her in a very dominant demanding way. Flirt with other women, seduce other women slightly even if you have no desire to fuck them - that will help you as well.

Even starting on that voyage will give you a boost in SMV at least as she sees it. Also become a man who can get hotter or as hot girls as her - you cannot be concerned that she may leave you.

Tattooes can help sometimes, but in a LTR that does not impact her so much. There are no quick "get attractive" solutions. It is a always a process, but one that you can start with the first step right now.

[Fightersword]

I can't think of anything other than attitudinal changes for short term, which you seem to understand. In the short term focus on your hygiene and staying confident. Honestly I'd say stop worrying that much about being at her SMV, or you'll get inside your head and start making mistakes you shouldn't be making because you'll think you aren't even if you are.

I'm not sure how long your LTR has been going on, but it could just be 'settling down' a bit per se. If that's the case that's not a bad thing.

Otherwise your SMV can't be raised overnight. Start putting in the exercise, learn a martial art, raise your standing socially, etc.

Frankly I think you could just be making a mountain out of a molehill from the little I have to go on. You obviously want to keep the LTR, maybe you've settled into the idea of it a lot and you're starting to put more value into the relationship than before. Thus you start worrying about these things you wouldn't have worried about before. So I'd cut that out, breathe, work on your long term SMV, and not worry about it so much. If you really start to notice some red flags you should take steps to correct them if they don't warrant getting out of the LTR, but otherwise I wouldn't get in your head too much about it. In that aspect picking up more hobbies like martial arts will be good because you'll have more to think about than the LTR along with it raising your SMV.

[XXL]

(12-10-2016 04:03 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  

So, we all know a good-paying job raises your SMV, a great motorcycle, etc. But those are things that, while we have to work on them, takes time for us to accomplish. Even getting buffed might take some time if you're not taking steroids and have the right genetics (I'm an ectomorph myself and have a hard time at the gym).

That's the whole point of it. Something valuable and respected takes time to accomplish.

(12-10-2016 04:03 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  

What are the things you can do to raise your SMV fast? Game, of course. But how about doing some martial art? Getting a tattoo? I'm asking for ideas.

Dude, having a motorcycle, a tattoo or being good at fighting, etc, those things themselves will not help you. It's about WHO is driving, WHO is rocking that tattoo and WHO is good at martial art. It's about you. Just by the way you write I'm guessing that I could give you 1000000$ and you would get eaten alive by women.

You know why?

Because you write stuff like this...

(12-10-2016 04:03 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  

Just in case you're wondering I'm on a LTR with a girl that has a higher SMV (by Heartiste's test I'd rank as a classic beta and she would be a higher beta/lesser alpha; even though I see myself as a higher beta because I dont take shit from women - including her - and like to lead, also have a good number of lays; i really think that test is skewed towards the american reality, in Brazil we dont need that much cocky and funny). Got and keep her through game (being demanding, leading, always showing less affection and being firm with her whenever she does something I dont like). The thing is, I think she is starting to catch up on the fact her SMV is higher and I need to raise mine.

You read lame game content without thinking critically about it, it messes you up hard and makes you worry about wrong things. Understand that if you go with this kind of looking at defining yourself and the way you relate to women only makes you massively unattractive to your GF and women in general.

Here is a quick summary of what I mean. Game and relationships are very complex topics with plenty of different social dynamics at play at all times. You cannot objectively compare your and girl's value to point out who's who. Shit, YOU CANNOT EVEN DEFINE those values accurately. Any kind of "test" that is meant to break it down is inaccurate and misleading simply because it ignores the way man and woman relate to each other on deeper level, psychologically, mentally, sexually, emotionally, etc. So basically shit that you read is not only a "bad data but literally a fallacy and glaring example of the white ivory tower armchair speculation, from eggheads who couldn't put any of their theory into practice if you gave them 10 years. What these social scientists don't see while they're writing about interactions that they supposedly use as empirical data in their published studies [high five to anyone who recognizes the quote] is that they completely disregard a very simple yet absolutely crucial thing....

Human nature.

This cannot be put into one simple algorithm. This is art, not science. There's much more to it.

My best suggestion and advice is to free your mind of trash game knowledge and start learning about real game. And in the meantime you can work on your lifestyle and status. If that's your path then choose career path that will puts you around many women on the regular and give you free access to them daily. Go figure. There are threads here about it, do the work alright Alrighter?

Good luck.



Heartiste refugees on he rise

[Mercia]

I agree with most of the conceptual stuff that's been covered. It sounds like you want to improve your SMV solely to hold onto your mate. This mentality doesn't work beyond the short run, if it ever yields results. The need to be a better man should drive your self-improvement efforts.

Although there's a whole bunch of pillars (career, resources, fitness, lifestyle, appearance, social networks) that will net you results, as others have mentioned, appearance definitely yields the quickest effects.

Assuming you're not a tub of lard, you can hit the shops and update your wardrobe without breaking the bank. There's tons of fashion sites out there targeting men - an okay place to start is either Real Men Real Style or Ashley Weston. Some of these sites have good content on the basics of getting a good wardrobe going.

The most common mistake us guys make is wearing shit that doesn't fit our bodies. You need to understand your body shape and how different types of apparel should fit:

• Jeans
• Polos
• Suits
  

Even if you're a tub of lard upgrading your wardrobe will make a difference. That said, fashion is a quick fix and most guys would focus on mid term goals in their pursuit of self-improvement.

[Gatekeeper]

Having a custom wardrobe (ie fitted clothing) is very impressive and demonstrates smv. Ideally working on yourself would allow everything else to fall in place.

[btz]

attractive female friends

i've had to move around a lot and it's the first thing I do in any new city, immediately throw myself into the friendzone with a group of attractive women. My story is I just broke up with my girlfriend of 4 years and moved here, not really interested in seeing anyone for anything right now but they seemed cool.

[Travesty]

Start at 1:37.

[philosophical_recovery]

(12-11-2016 09:13 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Start at 1:37.