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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:03 AM
Just some late-night thoughts so bear with me if this comes off as obvious, but I've synthesized some conversations with my exes and current girlfriend and had a bit of an epiphany.
To us, the downside of being a man is clear. By nature, we are powerless in the dating market. Those who aren't gifted with exceptional looks or charisma (and find themselves single at any point after college) have to put in unfathomable effort just to have a fighting chance at landing a 6 whose only self-improvement sacrifice is avoiding obesity. Despite devoting full-time job level commitment to self-improvement and game, I've gone through massive dry spells where rejection was not an event but a continuous background noise to my everyday existence, and mediocre women who never had to give dating success a second thought by virtue of being young, female, and not hideous, were empowered to treat me with the expendability of a pile of dog shit. And I have no doubt most men on here can relate to that.
Here's what I've realized, and again forgive me if this is obvious: Women have absolutely no idea that any of this occurs. It's not that they're dismissive of it, or that they don't think it's a big deal. They just don't have any clue that's how it is for a man.
The dilemma is, we don't pour out our souls about the brutality of dating to women we want to fuck, for obvious reasons. And when I drop little breadcrumbs about what our dating situation is like, it becomes clear that women have zero idea any issue even exists. For example, in conversations with exes/fuck buddies/female friends/current girlfriend:
If I mention how my friends and I are often rudely rejected at bars, they're shocked and confused, and assume we must have been acting ridiculous.
If I mention that dating platforms have way more male than female users, they look skeptical/confused, and sometimes even say they thought it was the other way around.
I've had multiple girls tell me how they helped their beta guy friend set up a dating profile, and then wonder why he "isn't having any luck."
If I mention how dating sites are chock full of obese girls whose profiles mostly consist of ridiculous demands (e.g. Do not contact me if you're under 6 ft), they are a little bewildered.
When they talk about beta guys who have obsessed over them, they chalk up the guys' overbearing behavior to entitlement rather than desperation.
If I mention that I've set up dates with girls only to have them ghost before the date ever happened, they are appalled, and assume it must have been some crazy situation. When I clarify that this is a routine occurrence that has happened to me over 10 times, they can't believe it.
Basically, the girls who have wanted to fuck me assume most other girls would want to fuck me also, and could never imagine that I have to approach/message/swipe hundreds of girls just to come across one case where there's some mutual interest.
I'm not saying we need to educate women about this stuff, because it really doesn't tangibly impact anything, I'm just rambling on about something I find interesting. Women are so keenly cognizant of the upsides of being a man (e.g. not bleeding every month, not having to be pregnant, having a little more leeway to be overweight), yet haven't even considered that any downsides exist.
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:15 AM
Women, in general, aren't programmed to take mens' needs into strong consideration. There's no biological reason for them to do so. Men provide and protect women, and women produce and nurture children. This is simple and reductionist, albeit an honest reason why women have an empathy gap for the male condition. I don't fault them for it. What has changed is that we no longer have massive wars like WWII where literally hundreds of thousands of young men were cut down in their prime, and women were scarce on options. In the West, populations are aging, there's too much welfare for women (wealth transfer from men to women, regardless of the fact that the tax is compulsory on working men) and last but not least, a surplus of social media that coddles women. A modern woman is the product of her environment, and the treatment of many thirsty men that continue to hit on fat or mean women regardless of their behavior. Too many weak men continue to subsidize the lifestyles of women who don't have it together. The modern woman shit tested men, and collectively we failed. From now on, we must individually, then collectively, take back control. Take heart, Trump has won and many men are finding courage through his simple straight talk, a great masculine quality.
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12-06-2016, 02:24 AM
Women do not understand the male sex drive, just how men do not appreciate the female menstrual cycle. When you want to understand male/ female relations that is the driving factor. If women really understood that sex for men is like food for them then they would be more empathetic, or perhaps even more manipulative.....
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:24 AM
New poster here, but I've read the forum before.
There was a topic here a little over a year ago, that didn't get as many comments as I thought it would, but it's been making rounds on reddit's "The Red Pill" sub.
Basically, whoever wrote it predicted everything that is happening, down to the fact that Trump would easily win because of the uneven male/female ratio, given all straight men would vote for Trump over Hillary.
Essentially, the US has a lopsided gender ratio to the point the country cannot function correctly, because there's too many single men with no options since even a fat woman gets attention these days. It was seen as a controversial topic, except now it seems like everyone is talking about it.
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:33 AM
Yes, the lopsided gender ratio is a very real problem for American men. The vast majority of legal H1-B visa immigrants are men from overseas. The vast majority of illegals that come from Mexico and other places south of our border are, yes, you guessed it, men. When you literally import millions of extra men, you run out of women. Combined with no large-scale wars that kill off surplus men, you just have a ratio which encourages massive female entitlement. Men would be just the same way, and are, in certain parts of the FSU, where there are a surplus of women. Women there try much harder to be fit and dress well, to attract the handful of men who have a job, don't have drinking issues, etc. A healthy society which has good interactions between the sexes ideally has a roughly equal gender ratio. When things get too far out of whack, you end up with the USA, or China.
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:34 AM
Ever wonder why a holiday photo from a chick always has said chick front & centre despite whatever magnificent or amazing vista may be behind them?
Cause chicks are largely incapable of thinking outside or beyond themselves.
They're not selfish, just very, very self centred.
Ponder the cosmos?
Ponder the human condition?
Societal trends? Historical trends?
All pointless to a vapid gal if she doesn't feel anything for it or if it has nothing to do with her.
Or if she can't gain from it.
That's why aside from Ayn Rand, many would be absolutely unable to name a single female philosopher.
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12-06-2016, 02:39 AM
A woman's natural biological goal and reason for existence is to mother children. Anything and everything that deviates from that goal, is an offense to her nature. Attention whoring, sleeping around, social media, etc. are all against the natural order. There's a reason why so many women are sad, angry and depressed. They are fighting their own biology and don't know why they are unhappy. Both men and women tend to lack introspection, but young women especially so. That's why in times gone by, a father and sons would exert considerable control in who a girl could date because it was rightly assumed that male leadership (patriarchy) helped screen out bums and no-goods. We've reached the point of so much surplus wealth that male family members aren't doing their job of helping screen out the troublemakers. When times are tough again financially, feminism will dry up and we'll see an increase of nicer female behavior. The incentives aren't quite there yet.
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12-06-2016, 02:42 AM
Good thoughts laid out and very true. Women really have no idea how much trouble we have to go through just to have sex, let alone a functional relationship with someone we are actually attracted to physically and/or otherwise. 80% of men are completely invisible, and women don't give a fuck about it. Like John Michael Kane mentioned, Trump has won and this has lifted the veil for many men who previously have felt crushed by the encroaching PC/feminist narrative. The bullshit is being laid bare and straight talk is very powerful - and can be well received by reasonable men and women. I'm amazed at some of the conversations I've had just in the last year dropping red pill nuggets among friends and family, men and women, and having them either agree or ponder it as a possibility rather than recoiling in disgust or *I can't even*. It's like I can see the programming glitching slightly and the gears of reality being greased. Some are beyond repair or reason. However, I think we've reached "Peak Bigot/Racist/Misogynist". The tide is turning.
Women will still have no clue about what it's like to be a man though. Don't count on that ever changing. They'll certainly continue to complain irrationally about the actions of the alpha jerks they fuck while ignoring the more "boring" guys.
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12-06-2016, 02:43 AM
I was at the bar the other night. Started talking to a guy who was visiting town - and then the two of us started talking to a couple of women who'd just arrived. They were cute, age appropriate, employed - and I could have sworn they were completely uninterested in either of us. Their body-language was cold, they didn't ask any questions about us, and they frequently reverted to that girl-group giggling that means they're nervous.
And yet - they sat with us for three hours. Bought their own drinks. Halfway through I wondered if it was me, and decided to help the other guy as wingman, but nope; they weren't really interested in him, either, just in the degree of entertainment we could provide them for the night.
Clown game might have worked. Heck, I might have gotten their numbers if I'd bothered to ask. But why bother? If I'm not a human being, just some pop-culture celebrity-gossip spouting entertainment beacon, replaceable by Netflix or Facebook, why even bother? What happened to those hook-ups from University, where we'd actually get into things we liked, instead of being sarcastic the entire time, and deflecting personal questions by reverting to ironic pop culture memes?
What a profound waste of time.
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 02:54 AM
Not wanting to blow my own trumpet here, but I had a similar epiphany when I realised that from an evolutionary standpoint, men are the expendable gender, not women. Kill a third of a tribe's men and the remaining men can still repopulate the tribe. Kill a third of a tribe's women, not so much.
The idea that polygamy was a natural or normal state in the ancient world is a load of shit. Take the Quran, the founding document of a culture fourteen hundred years old and unblemished by intellectual or cultural progress. Islam authorises the taking of multiple wives but only if the man can support them economically. Even back then, women were special: you only rated more than one of them if you had the resources to back it. Jewish culture was similar. King David might have had any number of wives and/or concubines, but he was a fucking king, not the local mud merchant.
Indeed the slim pickings for men generally is the central theme of David's sin: he sends Uzziah the Hittite into the front line to be killed in combat so he can legally marry the guy's (now) widow who he saw bathing naked on a rooftop. The prophet Nathan catches him out when he asks David, as king, how he would judge a rich shepherd with access to thousands of sheep any time he wants who killed a poor man who God had given but one beautiful little lamb that the rich shepherd wanted. David, incensed, says the rich shepherd must die; Nathan then simply says "You are the man."
Feminism is committing a really bad own-goal for women by insisting they be treated the same as men. Equality feminism does not result in everyone being equally special; it results in everyone being equally dispensable. This is why modern women are fucked in the head: on one hand they want equal treatment, but they also at a deep level want the special privileges that men afforded them for centuries. Historically women had disproportionate power and influence for their pure economic status in society; feminists are now consciously demanding that disproportionate power and influence be taken from them.
This is a stupid idea, because when you get down to it, women are outclassed physically and mentally by men in every aspect of life, simply because men have more muscle and we produce more geniuses than them. It is a real case of "be careful what you wish for."
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 03:34 AM
Why men have it easier
Because men dont go through the agony of pregnancy and child birth.
Men dont get hounded for sex everywhere they go.
The chance for rape are low.
Men are fertile forever.
Men look better when they are old.
An orgasm is guaranteed.
Men are smarter, stronger and funnier.
Beliefs are more powerful than facts.
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Why women believe men have it easy
12-06-2016, 06:01 AM
Sometimes they say that in the US too.
Translation, shortage of white men above 6'2 working for hedge funds in great shape.
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12-06-2016, 06:04 AM
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12-06-2016, 06:12 AM
Women don't reflect on the average man's sexual plight for one simple reason: they don't need to, given their abundance of options on the sexual market place and, more importantly, the multifarious societal benefits this confers on them. Furthermore, this reason can be elevated to a principle which governs the whole male-female axis of relations, explaining so much of why men and women fail to understand each other on so many different levels. I would even go so far as to maintain that man's far greater capacity for creativity, empathy and objectivity owes its entire existence to this very fact. In short: Men have always more successfully described and manipulated nature than women, because we've always been compelled by force of nature to do so, whereas women have not.
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12-06-2016, 06:31 AM
Quote: (12-06-2016 05:12 AM)kazz Wrote:
This news done the rounds not to long ago down under, I believe there there were even published books that actually sold in bookstores done on it.
The statistics back the theory, apparently? Sounds like Australia is the place to be hey, fast forward to 2.50. to get this arrogant bitches take on this troubling social issue.
Penny you are 36 fucking years old! You need to settle, no boy toy for grown ass woman!
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