[Riker]

A few times I've seen built guys gaming girls, especially at a club, and you see the guys talking to her while she kind of laughs and protests as he gets her against a wall while he has her blocked out with one hand against the wall with the other arm's forearm against the wall. And the girl kind of protests for a while and he goes for the kiss and you see the girl pushing against his chest and just giving up and sliding the hand that was pushing the guy around his neck or something while she gets into it. I always wonder what the hell they're saying to the girl and how they pull these aggressive move.

The other thing I've seen is the guy who talks forever and the girl doesn't talk much and then he goes for it and she's not having it, then you see the dude keep talking like 80-20, she laughs a bit sometimes and he goes for it and nothing, literally 20 to 30 minutes later after 4 or 5 rejection the girl gives in and they start making out. Man that's staying power. I know this is basic game stuff its just amazing to see such displays of dominance and charisma.

So the answer is get big at the gym, learn a martial art so you can defend yourself, take improv/ standup comedy or toastmasters or whatever social talking courses..... and be talk as much as you can whenever you can to get charismatic and social?

I was going to post in the regular forum but I' felt insecure so I put it here.

I was going to put haha at the end of that last sentence but that's like approval seeking behavior..... man I care way too much.

[Giovonny]

(08-20-2011 12:59 AM)Riker Wrote:  

So the answer is get big at the gym, learn a martial art so you can defend yourself, take improv/ standup comedy or toastmasters or whatever social talking courses..... and be talk as much as you can whenever you can to get charismatic and social?

I don"t know if that's the answer but its a great start. If you actually did all of those things I bet you would get some ladies. The only things I would add is to observe charismatic speakers. Alphas, naturals, famous speakers, comedians, actors, etc. Sometimes even fictional characters can give you an idea of how to talk to women.

Also, I think its important to identify your fears and conquer them. As you eliminate more and more of your fears your confidence and vibe really start to take off. Don't just cover up your fears, actually address them head on and try to minimize or remove them.

Oh, and one more thing, talk to multiple attractive women everyday.

[Frank Valentine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKftpGB03...re=related

Politics asides.

Great examples of aggressiveness and charisma.
IMO here are two Titans. Two men that get paid Alot of money to be charismatic, and are on the different end of the (political)spectrum. It would only make sense that these two hate each other. Watch the body language and the facial expression. Two alphas.
Bring this swag to your life.

[Stitch]

Riker-- you don't need to get big at the gym--you need to be confident in your body. You don't need to learn a martial art--you need to be confident that you could reasonably defend yourself so you aren't fearful. You don't need to take improv/comedy workshops--you need to be confident that you can entertain. It is in many ways about confidence and lack of fear. How you get there is your business.

Now, doing all these things is great and will help tremendously, but don't feel like the only way forward is to be a tae kwan do champion with thigh-sized biceps who can slay a crowd at the comedy club. Figuring out who you are and being that with confidence and gusto will get you a lot further than trying to be something you don't want to be.

Comfort in social situations will get you a lot further. Giovonny's "Oh, and one more thing, talk to multiple attractive women every day" is probably much better.