[Adrenaline]

Some pretty harsh comments on Italian girls in here. I've seen a lot of smoking hot Italian Australian girls in Australia, and they've always been my type. Are the ones in Italy drastically different?

[Deluge]

(02-03-2017 07:11 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 07:07 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

You're probably better off just going to Spain instead. Girls are hotter and easier (still not as easy as most of Europe though) and the country is cheaper. If your idea of paradise is a major city Barcelona then is probably it.

I am Italian and I can't really differentiate girls between Italian and Spanish. They look almost same. I went to Barcelona for 2 months in 2014, I think on average, girls are ugly there as well. They are relatively easier than Italian girls, I do agree but not any hotter than Italian girls. They're same.

Eastern Europe is much much better.

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

(02-03-2017 08:31 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

Some pretty harsh comments on Italian girls in here. I've seen a lot of smoking hot Italian Australian girls in Australia, and they've always been my type. Are the ones in Italy drastically different?

Keeping in mind that RVF members always tend to dump on the place they live... The Serbian and Croatian girls in Australia are smoking hot. The Greeks can be too (a lot of butterface also though). I wouldn't say the same about the Italians. They're not unattractive but they're roughly in the middle compared to the rest of Europe. Whereas the U.K and Ireland are at the very bottom, and it's girls who descend from there that you are comparing Italians to.

[Nowak]

(02-03-2017 09:35 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 07:11 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 07:07 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

You're probably better off just going to Spain instead. Girls are hotter and easier (still not as easy as most of Europe though) and the country is cheaper. If your idea of paradise is a major city Barcelona then is probably it.

I am Italian and I can't really differentiate girls between Italian and Spanish. They look almost same. I went to Barcelona for 2 months in 2014, I think on average, girls are ugly there as well. They are relatively easier than Italian girls, I do agree but not any hotter than Italian girls. They're same.

Eastern Europe is much much better.

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

(02-03-2017 08:31 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

Some pretty harsh comments on Italian girls in here. I've seen a lot of smoking hot Italian Australian girls in Australia, and they've always been my type. Are the ones in Italy drastically different?

Keeping in mind that RVF members always tend to dump on the place they live... The Serbian and Croatian girls in Australia are smoking hot. The Greeks can be too (a lot of butterface also though). I wouldn't say the same about the Italians. They're not unattractive but they're roughly in the middle compared to the rest of Europe. Whereas the U.K and Ireland are at the very bottom, and it's girls who descend from there that you are comparing Italians to.

Spanish and Italian girls are far from perfect, however,after living in Northern Italy,there's way too much hate on them on the forum. They are still better than most of western and North western Europe,which is better than all of North America. Italy would be perfect for women if the social/urban dynamics were another story. Sicilia is also superior to the North/center of Italia and has been compared to Eastern Europe on the forum,keep that in mind.

[Rossi]

(02-03-2017 09:35 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

If "Western Europe" only include UK, yes Italian women are better than them but except Indian or Pakistani, almost all girls in the world are better than women in UK anyway

I mean, I've been living 30 years in Italy and I've spoken with hundred guys from different countries because I'm working for logistic company, Italy is one of the hardest country to get laid.

If I go to almost anywhere in the world for 3 months and you come to Italy, %99, I'll get laid more than you, unless you're exceptionally rich or good looking like Beckham.

[Nowak]

(02-07-2017 12:30 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:35 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

If "Western Europe" only include UK, yes Italian women are better than them but except Indian or Pakistani, almost all girls in the world are better than women in UK anyway

I mean, I've been living 30 years in Italy and I've spoken with hundred guys from different countries because I'm working for logistic company, Italy is one of the hardest country to get laid.

If I go to almost anywhere in the world for 3 months and you come to Italy, %99, I'll get laid more than you, unless you're exceptionally rich or good looking like Beckham.

Not everyone only wants just to fuck, Italian girls also have much better personalities than most busted Germanic bitches and are on whole noticeably more feminine and thinner. They are objectively better looking than Danish ,Dutch or even German ( German Swiss,Austrian,German) girls. Italy is just a very difficult country to live in if you value flexibility and freedom in your life,that comes down to all aspects,people,work ,housing ,ect

[Nowak]

(02-07-2017 02:51 PM)Nowak Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 12:30 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:35 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

If "Western Europe" only include UK, yes Italian women are better than them but except Indian or Pakistani, almost all girls in the world are better than women in UK anyway

I mean, I've been living 30 years in Italy and I've spoken with hundred guys from different countries because I'm working for logistic company, Italy is one of the hardest country to get laid.

If I go to almost anywhere in the world for 3 months and you come to Italy, %99, I'll get laid more than you, unless you're exceptionally rich or good looking like Beckham.

Not everyone only wants just to fuck, Italian girls also have much better personalities than most busted Germanic bitches and are on whole noticeably more feminine and thinner. They are objectively better looking than Danish ,Dutch or even German ( German Swiss,Austrian,German) girls. Italy is just a very difficult country to live in if you value flexibility and freedom in your life,that comes down to all aspects,people,work ,housing ,ect

Like NY or the North Eastern US, yeah sure the girls are better than most of North America, but women aren't everything,especially if you don't like living in a shoebox in the case of NY or feeling very constrained like in Italia

[Snowflake]

(02-07-2017 11:38 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:35 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 07:11 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 07:07 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

You're probably better off just going to Spain instead. Girls are hotter and easier (still not as easy as most of Europe though) and the country is cheaper. If your idea of paradise is a major city Barcelona then is probably it.

I am Italian and I can't really differentiate girls between Italian and Spanish. They look almost same. I went to Barcelona for 2 months in 2014, I think on average, girls are ugly there as well. They are relatively easier than Italian girls, I do agree but not any hotter than Italian girls. They're same.

Eastern Europe is much much better.

They do look similar but I think there are subtle differences across the whole population. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I've heard more guys rave about how hot Spanish girls are than any other place in Western Europe. The Italian accent is much more attractive though.

(02-03-2017 08:31 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

Some pretty harsh comments on Italian girls in here. I've seen a lot of smoking hot Italian Australian girls in Australia, and they've always been my type. Are the ones in Italy drastically different?

Keeping in mind that RVF members always tend to dump on the place they live... The Serbian and Croatian girls in Australia are smoking hot. The Greeks can be too (a lot of butterface also though). I wouldn't say the same about the Italians. They're not unattractive but they're roughly in the middle compared to the rest of Europe. Whereas the U.K and Ireland are at the very bottom, and it's girls who descend from there that you are comparing Italians to.

Spanish and Italian girls are far from perfect, however,after living in Northern Italy,there's way too much hate on them on the forum. They are still better than most of western and North western Europe,which is better than all of North America. Italy would be perfect for women if the social/urban dynamics were another story. Sicilia is also superior to the North/center of Italia and has been compared to Eastern Europe on the forum,keep that in mind.

Whoever the guy equating Sicilia with EE was, he was right as far as criminality, corruption and conservativeness of girls goes. If someone is reading this and thinking he'll be able to recreate his little EE pussy paradise in the south of Italy, think again.

[Odin.fils.de.bor]

i've met italian women abroad, and they can be classified in two categories, very hot or too ugly And they are usually friendly whether ugly or not

[Nowak]

Finally made it to southern Italy,specifically Sicilia. The food, nature and beaches are amazing but im sadly dissapointed by the girls.

Faces and attitudes are slightly better but they still can be total ball breakers and smoke even more than the north. Local guys still prefer Eastern European girls and my good friends cousin is married to a Romanian. This is very common for obvious cultural and linguistic reasons.

Western latin nations are really a problem for us. Too inflexible societies.

Also im noticing more and more after 5 days beach destinations get verrrry boring,ten days was a bit too much

Love my Italian friends but Im not a Southern Europe or Italy guy. People are too erratic and really stupid at times. People never talk only talk and yell at eachother. Having an iq over 110 isnt easy here :/

[Nowak]

So yeah ,I was wrong before on my initial remarks. Don't come to Sicily or Southern Italy for girls. Same problems,basically the same issues.

[Baldrich]

(11-18-2016 10:47 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

For quite some time I've been living in Northern Italy ,I don't want to be too specific about where or why due to fear of doxing/small world effect but lets say I came here for opportunities that didnt exactly work out how I planned. I've been here long enough to explain the advantages and disadvantages of life here. For me the biggest advantage was I know people here and unfortunately thats where the buck stopped overall. Italians when you know them on a personal level (in the north its very hard to get to know people personally) they will be your friends for life,they are kind generous but can at times be a bit uninspiring and dull. Northern Italy takes the best and worst from Southern Italy and Germanic Northern Europe.


Quality of Life
Italy is fucked economically,even in the north while wages are reasonable ,bosses are jerks and it's impossible to have any sort of flexibility. Only in Italy you are forced to take off time during when your boss decides. Italy's lack of flexibility and opportunities for advancement of ones life really drag people down. Now emigration from Italy in highest numbers is actually from the wealthiest northern regions rather than the south who have gotten a head start.


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Girls. My flatmate who's a real chill dude explained to me that girls from the South are more feminine and have better faces as well as nicer personalities so I'd honestly just go to the south but don't expect any fast sex. I'd also learn Italian to open up more opportunities with chatting up chicas all over Italy. Northern girls are less traditional and are a bit similar to Polish girls in the sense that they have butterfaces and nice bodies. Not my cup of tea,I'm face guy first and body guy second when it comes to girls. I'll still give them a thumbs up over most of north western Europe,both in appearence and personality.They are thin and aren't completely dull and feminist. I'd definitely rate them above Brits,Germans (including Austrians and Swiss Germans) as well as nordic and girls from Belelux and Ireland. As you'll see however,it's not a good enough reason to come or stay here


Biggest problem with girls(and society here) imo
Do you have an aversion or above average aversion to shitting where you eat? Don't come to Italy then,social circle game is so ingrained in a huge number of success that I feel the pain of so many Italian men who can't stand stupid BS. I can understand why both men AND women want to leave Italy and are doing so more and more. Traditions and relationships seemed to be based not on mutual interest but geography ,Italians because of this low level of mobility overall seem as some of the most ignorant people I've met in Europe. Not everyone I met of course but It wasn't until I arrived here that looking back on life in the US I'd consider some of the fat stupid merkans smarter and more worldly than Paola or Ricardo. Cities in the north feel too archaic and living dwellings are very cramped for a proper lifestyle. A big part of why the north is wealthier than other regions is earlier industrialization which means there is a lot more pollution,I'd say after some parts in the UK ,Northern Italy is the most polluted part in western Europe. Another huge problem is the weather. Summers are extremely hot due to humidity and fall,spring it's too rainy,winters are bloody freezing. I'd say its the worst area in Europe with weather.



If you like good food,art and history I'd consider staying a few months in the North and
checking out various cities. My experience here has been an education,I've become much more of a history buff and have learned to appreciate more than I have in the past lessons and knowledge from the old world. I don't regret my stay as it was something I wanted to do and scope out,but I won't feel bad about leaving once I do.
The biggest take away I got was knowing I could never live anywhere in Southern Europe or anywhere that gets way too hot and humid during the summer.

Much of this is EXACTLY applicable to Spain -- mediocrity, social circle, crap jobs, etc.

[bumborass]

IMO, Sicily would be fine if you're in the 18-30 range.. there's a lot of younger good looking women there. Be advised though, less English is spoken in the south of Italy vs. the north. I'd brush up on Italian before deciding to do any long term trips to Italy as a whole.

Chicks are definitely conservative in the south, but the ones that favor American culture (from what I've observed) and speak fluent English are more DTF than others that don't.

With this being said, I still plan on going to Bologna in November for a few months for either language courses or private pilot training. Not sure yet.

[Rossi]

(06-06-2017 02:12 AM)bumborass Wrote:  

IMO, Sicily would be fine if you're in the 18-30 range.. there's a lot of younger good looking women there. Be advised though, less English is spoken in the south of Italy vs. the north. I'd brush up on Italian before deciding to do any long term trips to Italy as a whole.

Percentage of getting shot in the head is more likely in Sicily than banging a girl there with/without Italian.

Especially in Catania and Palermo.

[Themin]

lol @ Rossi, and can confirm

[Stakes Is High]

I've spent approx 3 months in Italy. 1 month in Lago d'Orta, 1 month Sardegna, 1 month between milan/roma/tuscany/venice.

By far the most marvellous culture in Europe. Food is on point. Friendly as hell. History, Art, Architecture.. I did not do business here, so not so sure on that end. I was dry the whole time I was here. I worked in a restaurant in each city, and so was more into the immersion/language/cuisine aspect of life.. Small towns are near impossible for strange dudes to come and slay because of small town gossip.

I did lay a 18 year old music student who I met 3 years prior in Madrid. From Como, she is well off and studies opera singing in Madrid.. Spent a week with her at her family's vacation apartment in Milan. Top 3 week of my life. Between walking around Milan, eating local cuisine, and smashing some hairy.

Spent 1 whole week in Palermo in summer.. Beautiful as hell, amazing time, but dry as hell. Minimal night life. Only action was hostel chicks.

[StepUp]

Italian girls can be beautiful but they have a shitty personality....entitled, nagging, loud, rude, selfish and usually it's not a pleasure to interact with them. And of course the mentality is the classic in South Europe, these girls aren't open to being approached by strangers....they are inside social circles and you need to break into them to get to know them (very hard to do).

Italian guys don't even go after them anymore, it's too much hassle....with the same effort to get a 5 in Italy you can get a 7,5 in Poland (with an amazing personality) or a 9 in Ukraine. It's not worth it

[Themin]

(06-07-2017 07:29 AM)StepUp Wrote:  

Italian girls can be beautiful but they have a shitty personality....entitled, nagging, loud, rude, selfish and usually it's not a pleasure to interact with them. And of course the mentality is the classic in South Europe, these girls aren't open to being approached by strangers....they are inside social circles and you need to break into them to get to know them (very hard to do).

Italian guys don't even go after them anymore, it's too much hassle....with the same effort to get a 5 in Italy you can get a 7,5 in Poland (with an amazing personality) or a 9 in Ukraine. It's not worth it

totally agree... obviously we're generalising here but from personal experience (left italy at 24, lived 11 years in UK, then back in Italy but travelled the world etc) italian women are just ridiculously low ROI vs any random polish ukrainian woman any day of the week

[Rossi]

I don't really understand what's the all fuss about Italian women. I've been to more than 35-40 countries in my life and I wouldn't consider Italian girls in Top 20 in the world. They're average looking girls and way too much attitude for mediocre look.

Yes, you can get laid in Italy but you can get laid in Saudi Arabia too. The amount of time it takes for me to bang a girl in Italy usually equals to time I can bang 4-5 foreign girls in Milano.

[StepUp]

(06-07-2017 08:42 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

I don't really understand what's the all fuss about Italian women. I've been to more than 35-40 countries in my life and I wouldn't consider Italian girls in Top 20 in the world. They're average looking girls and way too much attitude for mediocre look.

Yes, you can get laid in Italy but you can get laid in Saudi Arabia too. The amount of time it takes for me to bang a girl in Italy usually equals to time I can bang 4-5 foreign girls in Milano.

Yeah, it's fucked up
Attitude of girls and closed off social circles are very big problems in Italy, worst country possible if you want to get notches

I traveled quite a lot around Europe and I consider italian girls (especially in the South) the hardest in the whole Europe.

That being said, I do consider italian girls (again, especially in the South) good for long term relationships, they tend to be traditional and conservative.
If I want to get kids one day, I'd consider an italian girl....in the meantime I go to EE or the North

If somebody want the italian flag, it's much easier to get it abroad than in Italy.....girls that go abroad are easier because the are free of the hyper conservative culture of Italy so they don't have qualms sleeping around

In Italy if a girl sleep around it's considered disrespectful to her family (father, brothers and to a lesser extent the mother) and her family reputation is ruined forever. And families are very important in Italy. It's kind of a archaic society

[Nowak]

(08-25-2017 08:44 AM)StepUp Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 08:42 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

I don't really understand what's the all fuss about Italian women. I've been to more than 35-40 countries in my life and I wouldn't consider Italian girls in Top 20 in the world. They're average looking girls and way too much attitude for mediocre look.

Yes, you can get laid in Italy but you can get laid in Saudi Arabia too. The amount of time it takes for me to bang a girl in Italy usually equals to time I can bang 4-5 foreign girls in Milano.

Yeah, it's fucked up
Attitude of girls and closed off social circles are very big problems in Italy, worst country possible if you want to get notches

I traveled quite a lot around Europe and I consider italian girls (especially in the South) the hardest in the whole Europe.

That being said, I do consider italian girls (again, especially in the South) good for long term relationships, they tend to be traditional and conservative.
If I want to get kids one day, I'd consider an italian girl....in the meantime I go to EE or the North

If somebody want the italian flag, it's much easier to get it abroad than in Italy.....girls that go abroad are easier because the are free of the hyper conservative culture of Italy so they don't have qualms sleeping around

In Italy if a girl sleep around it's considered disrespectful to her family (father, brothers and to a lesser extent the mother) and her family reputation is ruined forever. And families are very important in Italy. It's kind of a archaic society

Many guys in Sicily still are marrying Romanians and Ukrainians. It's too anachronistic , Ukraine is more modern in certain ways with a good balance of tradition. In Sicily guys kiss each other on the cheeks even though they hate gays , weird society.

[Cavatine]

Does anyone know about the african girls in italy?

Just hear about of it in the media in Germany and saw a short report. Should be many of nigerians or so.

Is it good? How are the prices?

[Mikestar]

I have a questions about Italy. I am moving to Turin for 4 months next month, I am excited but need to know a few general things.

1) how much Italian should I learn before arriving? I know very little but I speak Spanish much better so that will help me learn I hope.

2) I heard Italy is social circle based to the max, how would daygame work there in Italian?

3) does it ever get depressing?

4) is going to clubs a good idea for chicks in Italy?

[droughtmeat]

Try to learn as much Italian as possible. It will make things much easier and your experience that much cooler.

Going to clubs is a good idea.

My happiest days were spent Italy, but primarily in Rome and in the summertime. I doubt it gets depressing, but I really don't know about the north.

[Alacrity]

(02-03-2017 04:53 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

(11-20-2016 11:34 AM)Lime Wrote:  

I heard Turin is the best city for nightlife in Northern Italy, is that true?

And as for Italian girls, I think we have one of the most beautiful country in the world, geographically, culturally, as a lifestyle and cuisine-wise but Italian girls are one of the worst in the world.

LMAO