[smithblack]

When I was a blue-pill atheist, I believed that religion was a means of controlling people, specifically women. I still believe this, but now I see a lot more nuance in the dynamics between women and religion.

Now as we all know, most men are blue-pill. And at least in America, no man is more blue-pill than an ultra-religious one. I was always turned off on how husbands were so willing to accept their wive's devotion to Jesus rather than to themselves.

But now I personally believe that religious women have a sort of infatuation with the object of their religious worship. They will refuse to accept anything negative about their religion to the point of self-delusion, as it provides them with security and comfort.

Religion provides women their dual AF/BB sexual strategy. God is the ultimate alpha, while their husbands are ideally supposed to be the ultimate Beta Bucks. But, I believe I have a theory on how you could break the religious conviction of any religious girl you meet. You just have to be a high value enough for a women to discard her beliefs, as if a man of high enough value enters her life, she will go for him except Jesus because he provides those same things, just a little bit better.

This "Devil Game" theory has not been tested yet, and I am still thinking of ways on how you could be more high value than God himself. I think that running a prideful asshole game would work in this scenario.

All in all, in the coming years I will be testing my method greatly to develop Devil Game.

[Lunostrelki]

It's no mistake that God is male. Without religious men living religious lives, religious women don't get the spiritual guidance they need and are likely to fall into disarray. On the other hand, you are essentially putting forth a Marxist argument--that religion is an opiate and can be replaced by a secular alpha male. As history has shown us with the socialist countries, this does not work. Righteous faith will always trump material interests. If it did not stand then it wasn't real to begin with.

I'm not 100% sure about Christianity since I am only tangentially exposed to the cucked denominations, but in old Chinese Confucian philosophy the father, ancestors, and emperors were considered the corollaries of heaven; to respect and pay obeisance to them as a wife, child, subject, or minister was the same as worshiping and honoring the heavenly emperor Shang Di (this term is usually translated as "the lord on high" and in Chinese Christianity is often used to mean the biblical God as well, with no concerns about paganism).

By this tradition mortal men are not gods, but they are in God's image and in this sense command the same respect. One can see that this is by no means a uniquely Chinese thing. Christianity presents Jesus as the Son of God, while also being God himself. I take this to mean that Jesus is the embodiment of a perfect human, someone who has attained oneness with the Lord, that is, the ultimate role model for Christians. The alpha Christian is a provider and creator who commands pious respect from his wife and children just as all of them recognize the Lord and his son. The universality of this message (become as Jesus and you shall be one with God) is extremely powerful.

Marriage, fidelity, and religious morality are not manifestations of beta-ness. Rather, mastery of them reflects the power of men to cultivate the essence of godhood on earth by overcoming flesh desires and limitations, while leading their women and offspring to the same.

As for the "devil game", it definitely works in modern society if that's what you're after. See cult leaders, pimps, abusive and unproductive criminal-like men--women go after them and the worst thing is they self-replicate since the government welfare and SJW propaganda glorify the women and offspring in these arrangements.

In traditional societies, devil game existed too: it was the prerogative of barbarians who made their liveliness by leeching off the edges of civilization. As you might guess, the authorities and any man with a family has an interest in their extermination.

[sterling_archer]

(11-12-2016 10:39 AM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

I'm not 100% sure about Christianity since I am only tangentially exposed to the cucked denominations, but in old Chinese Confucian philosophy the father, ancestors, and emperors were considered the corollaries of heaven; to respect and pay obeisance to them as a wife, child, subject, or minister was the same as worshiping and honoring the heavenly emperor Shang Di (this term is usually translated as "the lord on high" and in Chinese Christianity is often used to mean the biblical God as well, with no concerns about paganism).

Not only that, there were frequent stories about gods and god like beings incarnating in emperors and icons from social life of that age in order to make those who listen to the stories, worship these figures even more. We could say that it was type of propaganda and cult following similar to North Korea today, but these people had true respect to their male figure in life, which was in most of cases emperor as a "father" of the country.

[Lunostrelki]

(11-12-2016 11:26 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Not only that, there were frequent stories about gods and god like beings incarnating in emperors and icons from social life of that age in order to make those who listen to the stories, worship these figures even more. We could say that it was type of propaganda and cult following similar to North Korea today, but these people had true respect to their male figure in life, which was in most of cases emperor as a "father" of the country.

There was a cult aspect to it, though fundamentally different from communist totalitarianism. The emperor was the supreme patriarch in a society based on the reverence of father-headed families that gave men a reason to stay in the system and work hard for it. Contrast this with the Kim regime where it's just the Leader supposedly working tirelessly for the benefit of everybody else. Or closer to home, the nonsense in the West where elites control the media and banks and vilify the god-given prerogative of men to create, direct, and control their own clans.

[Sooth]

(11-12-2016 06:54 AM)smithblack Wrote:  

I believe I have a theory on how you could break the religious conviction of any religious girl you meet. You just have to be a high value enough for a women to discard her beliefs, as if a man of high enough value enters her life, she will go for him except Jesus because he provides those same things, just a little bit better.

Not quite.

Open your bible to the first chapter. "Devil game" on a woman is laid out crystal clear.

Also known as "The fall of man".

[LeoneVolpe]

(11-13-2016 01:14 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

(11-12-2016 06:54 AM)smithblack Wrote:  

I believe I have a theory on how you could break the religious conviction of any religious girl you meet. You just have to be a high value enough for a women to discard her beliefs, as if a man of high enough value enters her life, she will go for him except Jesus because he provides those same things, just a little bit better.

Not quite.

Open your bible to the first chapter. "Devil game" on a woman is laid out crystal clear.

Also known as "The fall of man".

Here's my two-cents:

Why would you want to take a religious girl and (directly or indirectly) encourage her to lose her faith? If anything, wouldn't it be simpler to obtain the control you seek from a girl whose belief system already encourages submitting to a man? You don't have to be a Christian yourself to be the beneficiary of her belief system. Couldn't you, in effect, use her own religious beliefs against her?

Sure, Christian husbands are often cut from the "beta bucks" cloth, but they also come in the "alpha provider" variety as well. An alpha provider husband will be respected by his wife, who is happy to submit to him. Such a man won't feel "cucked" by God.

Using your so-called "devil game" to encourage a woman to become secular in her beliefs seems like a wrong move to me. Secular women are essentially their own gods. Their "houses of worship" are their social media profiles, where they're worshiped by thirsty, beta simps. Such women are vain, defiant and often promiscuous. If your game is tight and frame strong, it's easy to persuade such a woman, but difficult to keep her in that persuasion.

Remember: No one has control over anyone, they have influence at best.

Your influence will be stronger and much longer lasting with a girl already geared to accept a wise and powerful alpha figure as having authority over her than a girl who effectively thinks herself a "goddess," her own deity of sorts. You can call it "devil game" if you wish, but if the goal is to make her recognize your authority and be desirous of submitting to your will -- wouldn't it be just as appropriate, if not more so to call it "God game"? Or just "game" if you're not wanting to be pretentious. Calling it "devil game" almost seems like an atheistic attempt at trying to be edgy.

[The Beast1]

(11-12-2016 06:54 AM)smithblack Wrote:  

When I was a blue-pill atheist, I believed that religion was a means of controlling people, specifically women. I still believe this, but now I see a lot more nuance in the dynamics between women and religion.

Now as we all know, most men are blue-pill. And at least in America, no man is more blue-pill than an ultra-religious one. I was always turned off on how husbands were so willing to accept their wive's devotion to Jesus rather than to themselves.

But now I personally believe that religious women have a sort of infatuation with the object of their religious worship. They will refuse to accept anything negative about their religion to the point of self-delusion, as it provides them with security and comfort.

Religion provides women their dual AF/BB sexual strategy. God is the ultimate alpha, while their husbands are ideally supposed to be the ultimate Beta Bucks. But, I believe I have a theory on how you could break the religious conviction of any religious girl you meet. You just have to be a high value enough for a women to discard her beliefs, as if a man of high enough value enters her life, she will go for him except Jesus because he provides those same things, just a little bit better.

This "Devil Game" theory has not been tested yet, and I am still thinking of ways on how you could be more high value than God himself. I think that running a prideful asshole game would work in this scenario.

All in all, in the coming years I will be testing my method greatly to develop Devil Game.

What is this sniveling neck beard atheist crap?

Do you even understand why people are drawn to religion, especially one such as Christianity? Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with control.

Why don't you go to a mosque and try your devil game?

Better yet, have you actually tried approaching a woman? If you have, you would have realized that night game and day game are two vastly different things requiring almost two entirelly different skillsets. Church in particular is social circle game. Good luck trying this devil crap on anyone in a recurring social circle environment. You'll have a giant 50ft radius of ignore the "weird intense guy" following you around.

This is what happens when a logically driven man eschews the actual part of game called approach and escalation and instead chooses to wallow in the invory towers of theory.

Get off of the theory and go make your first real approach. Tell us how it went in the newbie game forum.

Until then, you're just another newbie who doesn't know where to post his weak theories.