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Predicitons for Democrat candidate in 2020?
They'd have better luck with someone on the celebrity side - Oprah, Michelle Obama, George Clooney. As opposed to an established politician.
Yet even then, they'd need a celebrity with the right temperament, that has enough appeal to get a majority vote.
Yet even then, they'd need a celebrity with the right temperament, that has enough appeal to get a majority vote.
Maybe not for 2020, but at some point I wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea Clinton running for office. Hillary may be too old at this point for another run in 2020, but the Clintons are still power obsessed. I expect them to continue being power-hungry. Hillary especially may turn out to be a tiger mom living vicariously through her daughter.
As for celebrity billionaires, I can see Cuban or even Bill Gates running in 2020. Gates, with the amount of exposure the Gates Foundation gets and his frequent interviews with the Daily Show/Colbert Report, has become a liberal darling. But he's be a real stretch and I don't think he has political ambitions.
Cuban definitely dipped his toes in the water this election cycle by commenting on Trump and stumping for Hillary. With the exposure Mark Cuban has, the Dallas Mavericks, Shark Tank - I wouldn't be surprised if he's already investigating the probability of him winning in 2020.
Trump is very much an outlier though. He has been considering running for President since the late 1990s. He has patiently played the long run and came out on top brilliantly. So with that in mind, even Cuban won't cut it.
The Democrats are done for. 2020 will be their opportunity to rebuild their brand. Hopefully in the conveying 4 years, a Trump presidency will have the much-needed cultural influence to extirpate the SJW cancer.
As for celebrity billionaires, I can see Cuban or even Bill Gates running in 2020. Gates, with the amount of exposure the Gates Foundation gets and his frequent interviews with the Daily Show/Colbert Report, has become a liberal darling. But he's be a real stretch and I don't think he has political ambitions.
Cuban definitely dipped his toes in the water this election cycle by commenting on Trump and stumping for Hillary. With the exposure Mark Cuban has, the Dallas Mavericks, Shark Tank - I wouldn't be surprised if he's already investigating the probability of him winning in 2020.
Trump is very much an outlier though. He has been considering running for President since the late 1990s. He has patiently played the long run and came out on top brilliantly. So with that in mind, even Cuban won't cut it.
The Democrats are done for. 2020 will be their opportunity to rebuild their brand. Hopefully in the conveying 4 years, a Trump presidency will have the much-needed cultural influence to extirpate the SJW cancer.
Quote: (11-14-2016 03:32 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:
Maybe not for 2020, but at some point I wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea Clinton running for office. Hillary may be too old at this point for another run in 2020, but the Clintons are still power obsessed. I expect them to continue being power-hungry. Hillary especially may turn out to be a tiger mom living vicariously through her daughter.
As for celebrity billionaires, I can see Cuban or even Bill Gates running in 2020. Gates, with the amount of exposure the Gates Foundation gets and his frequent interviews with the Daily Show/Colbert Report, has become a liberal darling. But he's be a real stretch and I don't think he has political ambitions.
Cuban definitely dipped his toes in the water this election cycle by commenting on Trump and stumping for Hillary. With the exposure Mark Cuban has, the Dallas Mavericks, Shark Tank - I wouldn't be surprised if he's already investigating the probability of him winning in 2020.
Trump is very much an outlier though. He has been considering running for President since the late 1990s. He has patiently played the long run and came out on top brilliantly. So with that in mind, even Cuban won't cut it.
The Democrats are done for. 2020 will be their opportunity to rebuild their brand. Hopefully in the conveying 4 years, a Trump presidency will have the much-needed cultural influence to extirpate the SJW cancer.
The Clinton has become a toxic name, but you are right, they are too power hungry, if they try Chelsea in 2020 then the Democrat will split and the damage will be so severe it makes take several decades to fix.
Even The Young Turks are crying over the idea
Chelsea Clinton can’t let her family’s political dynasty end
http://nypost.com/2016/11/14/chelsea-cli...nasty-end/
Cuban and Gatess are only rich, but they don't have the branding skills of Trump, Trump could put his name on anything and make it luxury right way, Shark Tank is not a Cuban centered show, there are other 3 rich people there, beyond that, there is also the risk of putting theirs names and fortune at risk by running, there is not way Cuban or Gates can have rallies like Trump, or speak like Trump.
On what platform they run? pro-illegal immigration? open border? new TPP? path to legalize illegals, anti Russia?
If need be, the democrats will have a no name Obama like candidate appear out of nowhere if need be.
The 2020 democratic candidate will be similar to Obama. A no name guy with barely any experience in politics.
The 2020 democratic candidate will be similar to Obama. A no name guy with barely any experience in politics.
So from what I see so far, most of the left has settled on their strategy
1. Double down on "Muh Racism"
2. Get non white and hipster liberal turnout up for 2020 since it was down for 2016
To all of us this strategy looks doomed to failure. But let's remember that the Donald Trump strategy looked to be doomed to failure too.
I know we are still in the celebratory phase, but gentlemen, we need to continue our efforts. We cannot rest on our laurels. We are now a pharmacy dispensing red pills.
1. Double down on "Muh Racism"
2. Get non white and hipster liberal turnout up for 2020 since it was down for 2016
To all of us this strategy looks doomed to failure. But let's remember that the Donald Trump strategy looked to be doomed to failure too.
I know we are still in the celebratory phase, but gentlemen, we need to continue our efforts. We cannot rest on our laurels. We are now a pharmacy dispensing red pills.
Quote: (11-10-2016 04:49 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:
Quote: (11-10-2016 04:18 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:
If President Trump can have a very productive first-term and people realize he isn't the boogeyman the mainstream media made him out to be, I don't think it'll matter who the dems try and come up with. I think President Trump can claim a second term.
That's a big if.
Trump won, because he was running against Hillary. A turnip could beat Hillary.
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Besides, wasn't Kamala Harris' sister mentioned in the Podesta e-mails? I can't remember if she was a guest at a "pizza party" or if it had something to do with #spiritcooking. Either way, it's probably not the best thing for a potential candidate to be even loosely associated with. Of course, it's not like the libtards have any problem with promoting degenerates, so maybe they will go that route?
This is the exact reason, or one of the reasons, why Trump won, as well. People are sick of these media spin techniques, lies, and distortions.
A candidate's relative should have zero relevance to their character, and perception. It's unfortunately not so, but the Liberals LOVE using this technique (ala Eric Trump).
Again, we won't know until 2020, but I thoroughly believe that barring a mediocre-good Presidency(and with Trump who knows what will happen), Trump will be ousted by a more leftist candidate - by a landslide.
A turnip could only beat Hillary and her media allies if they had the same kind of grassroots support from alt-media. If Trump hadn't been the nominee, there would have been no 4chan meme wars, no weaponized autism doing headcounts at Hillary's rallies. No MAGA Mindset, no Ricky Vaugn. Men like Stefan Molyneaux and Vox Day would have stayed on the sidelines. Sites like infowars and gotnews would have still been active (fueled by wikileaks) but wouldn't have had such a large audience or come out so strongly for the Republican candidate. Would Malik Obama have come out in support of Jeb Bush? Doubtful. Would Jeb Bush have packed 3 rallies a day? Would there have been a 2000+ page high energy thread at Rooshvforum?
There's too much that would have been different to just assume anyone could have beaten the hag.
Actually, here is a very sober article written by a conservative Hispanic, about the Democratic Party's Multicultural obsession, and how it is creating harm to the country. Couldn't have written it better myself:
When the Left decides to hit the pause button on its current massive freak-out about how this election was a “whitelash” against the “browning” of America, it should ask itself some hard questions. Sound liberal minds may want to ask, for example, if the angst that roiled the country had to do with immigrants per se or with the balkanization our leaders have been promoting.
The Left Needs to Get Over Multiculturalism
When the Left decides to hit the pause button on its current massive freak-out about how this election was a “whitelash” against the “browning” of America, it should ask itself some hard questions. Sound liberal minds may want to ask, for example, if the angst that roiled the country had to do with immigrants per se or with the balkanization our leaders have been promoting.
The Left Needs to Get Over Multiculturalism
Quote: (11-15-2016 11:10 AM)Blaster Wrote:
Quote: (11-10-2016 04:49 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:
Quote: (11-10-2016 04:18 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:
If President Trump can have a very productive first-term and people realize he isn't the boogeyman the mainstream media made him out to be, I don't think it'll matter who the dems try and come up with. I think President Trump can claim a second term.
That's a big if.
Trump won, because he was running against Hillary. A turnip could beat Hillary.
Quote:Quote:
Besides, wasn't Kamala Harris' sister mentioned in the Podesta e-mails? I can't remember if she was a guest at a "pizza party" or if it had something to do with #spiritcooking. Either way, it's probably not the best thing for a potential candidate to be even loosely associated with. Of course, it's not like the libtards have any problem with promoting degenerates, so maybe they will go that route?
This is the exact reason, or one of the reasons, why Trump won, as well. People are sick of these media spin techniques, lies, and distortions.
A candidate's relative should have zero relevance to their character, and perception. It's unfortunately not so, but the Liberals LOVE using this technique (ala Eric Trump).
Again, we won't know until 2020, but I thoroughly believe that barring a mediocre-good Presidency(and with Trump who knows what will happen), Trump will be ousted by a more leftist candidate - by a landslide.
A turnip could only beat Hillary and her media allies if they had the same kind of grassroots support from alt-media. If Trump hadn't been the nominee, there would have been no 4chan meme wars, no weaponized autism doing headcounts at Hillary's rallies. No MAGA Mindset, no Ricky Vaugn. Men like Stefan Molyneaux and Vox Day would have stayed on the sidelines. Sites like infowars and gotnews would have still been active (fueled by wikileaks) but wouldn't have had such a large audience or come out so strongly for the Republican candidate. Would Malik Obama have come out in support of Jeb Bush? Doubtful. Would Jeb Bush have packed 3 rallies a day? Would there have been a 2000+ page high energy thread at Rooshvforum?
There's too much that would have been different to just assume anyone could have beaten the hag.
Democrats always need money to function, they really are useless without it, this is why they demand so much taxpayer money to fund their ideology.
Trump has a literally army online working 24/7 for free, you can't beat that.
Thread bump.
Any new names to add to the list? I just keep seeing over and over again the same people and none of them are interesting at all.
Any new names to add to the list? I just keep seeing over and over again the same people and none of them are interesting at all.
Quote: (01-22-2017 06:24 PM)username Wrote:
Thread bump.
Any new names to add to the list? I just keep seeing over and over again the same people and none of them are interesting at all.
Did anyone say Gavin Newsom? I think it will be him. Although if the Governor race in Cali isn't until 3018 then he would probably have to wait to 2024? All depends if he wins the Governor of California, Tom Steyer will be a tough opponent for him
Quote: (01-22-2017 06:41 PM)komatiite Wrote:
Quote: (01-22-2017 06:24 PM)username Wrote:
Thread bump.
Any new names to add to the list? I just keep seeing over and over again the same people and none of them are interesting at all.
Did anyone say Gavin Newsom? I think it will be him. Although if the Governor race in Cali isn't until 2018 then he would probably have to wait to 2024? All depends if he wins the Governor of California, Tom Steyer will be a tough opponent for him
Quote: (01-22-2017 06:41 PM)komatiite Wrote:Gavin Newsom should certainly be on the list.
Quote: (01-22-2017 06:24 PM)username Wrote:
Thread bump.
Any new names to add to the list? I just keep seeing over and over again the same people and none of them are interesting at all.
Did anyone say Gavin Newsom? I think it will be him. Although if the Governor race in Cali isn't until 3018 then he would probably have to wait to 2024? All depends if he wins the Governor of California, Tom Steyer will be a tough opponent for him
Delicious Tacos is the voice of my generation....
I agree with Kamala Harris. She is perfect for identity politics. There may be some moderate types who push for someone from Middle America and not a coastal elite though, but I think those voices are become fewer and ignored.
I haven't heard anyone new.
Cory Booker is taking massive flak from progressives for voting against a Sanders amendment that would have allowed the importation of prescription drugs from Canada - many pointing out the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's received in donor money from pharmaceutical companies and Wall Street. I think we can take him down a few pegs.
Elizabeth Warren is the frontrunner, if only by default at this point.
Cory Booker is taking massive flak from progressives for voting against a Sanders amendment that would have allowed the importation of prescription drugs from Canada - many pointing out the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's received in donor money from pharmaceutical companies and Wall Street. I think we can take him down a few pegs.
Elizabeth Warren is the frontrunner, if only by default at this point.
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My money is definitely on Michelle Obama at this point. The Dems won't be able to resist it. Warren and Booker will also try to run. All three would/will get crushed by Trump.
People like Zuckerberg (another thread devoted to this) and Howard Shultz (Starbucks) have been thrown about. I think there is a good possibility that a leftist businessperson/CEO type will give it a shot in the primaries.
I'll take any punishment that comes, but I'm surprised that Mariska Hargitay hasn't come to mind.
Quote: (01-22-2017 08:29 PM)Eastside Wrote:
People like Zuckerberg (another thread devoted to this) and Howard Shultz (Starbucks) have been thrown about. I think there is a good possibility that a leftist businessperson/CEO type will give it a shot in the primaries.
Yeah good call. Now that I think about it, whoever loses the Dem race for Cali Governor will likely run if it ends up being Newsom vs Steyer. Steyer just pumps money into global warming initiatives, he has some good credibility with Dems i would imagine. So you can add that billionaire to the Zuck and Schultz list too
Quote: (11-13-2016 11:41 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:
They'd have better luck with someone on the celebrity side - Oprah, Michelle Obama, George Clooney. As opposed to an established politician.
Yet even then, they'd need a celebrity with the right temperament, that has enough appeal to get a majority vote.
I agree with this. It's going to be someone outspoken with celebrity star power that can also play the identity politics angle. I think they will try to find a leftist version of Trump but it will fail because Trump is one of a kind. And if Trump makes some good political moves he's going to be impossible to beat.
The Democrats are no longer legitimate, they are a subversive group whose overarching goal is world government.
All bets are off.
I'm gonna go off the rails here but the following would not surprise me:
They realize they can't win.
They put up a candidate who must not win.
A scumbag who quotes Stalin, Mao, Kim Jung, Hugo Chavez. Says pedophilia is a sexual orientation, whatever
Gets caught in a degenerate scandal. Homo shit, Satanism, whatever.
Basically Obama who is both worse and open about it's intentions.
Cook the books/polls hardcore, have blue states remove all barriers to voter fraud, intentionally get caught rigging shit etc
Make it look like the vote between Trump and the Stalinist pedophile satanist is too close to call.
Trump is forced to institute martial law to stop the election. Activate all the marxist cells built in public schools and colleges.
America falls. Order through chaos. One world government run by Talmud moneychangers.
This scenario may be extremely far fetched but Trump needs to get law and order established immediately or things will get out of hand.
All bets are off.
I'm gonna go off the rails here but the following would not surprise me:
They realize they can't win.
They put up a candidate who must not win.
A scumbag who quotes Stalin, Mao, Kim Jung, Hugo Chavez. Says pedophilia is a sexual orientation, whatever
Gets caught in a degenerate scandal. Homo shit, Satanism, whatever.
Basically Obama who is both worse and open about it's intentions.
Cook the books/polls hardcore, have blue states remove all barriers to voter fraud, intentionally get caught rigging shit etc
Make it look like the vote between Trump and the Stalinist pedophile satanist is too close to call.
Trump is forced to institute martial law to stop the election. Activate all the marxist cells built in public schools and colleges.
America falls. Order through chaos. One world government run by Talmud moneychangers.
This scenario may be extremely far fetched but Trump needs to get law and order established immediately or things will get out of hand.
It'll probably be Elizabeth Warren.
She didn't run last time because she didn't think she could ever beat Hilary, but now she's seen how many people loved Bernie and she knows she'll be able to get those same people behind her. After what happened in 2016 the Bernie voters are mad as hell and will be further galvanized under President Trump. It's just hard to imagine a centrist like Hilary getting picked again, and Warren is the leading progressive and will be Bernie's anointed successor. One one hand, she has the populist economic message, anti-elite credentials and poor heartland upbringing that could appeal to the rust belt voters who went for Obama twice and then swung to Trump. But I don't see her winning.
Unless they're following on from a 2 term President of the same party it's quite rare for a first term President to not get re-elected. Plus I just don't see enough middle aged white working class men voting for an old liberal lady whose not super charismatic. Unless Trump really fucks up I'm assuming he's going to be in for 8 years. Incumbency is a huge electoral advantage.
She didn't run last time because she didn't think she could ever beat Hilary, but now she's seen how many people loved Bernie and she knows she'll be able to get those same people behind her. After what happened in 2016 the Bernie voters are mad as hell and will be further galvanized under President Trump. It's just hard to imagine a centrist like Hilary getting picked again, and Warren is the leading progressive and will be Bernie's anointed successor. One one hand, she has the populist economic message, anti-elite credentials and poor heartland upbringing that could appeal to the rust belt voters who went for Obama twice and then swung to Trump. But I don't see her winning.
Unless they're following on from a 2 term President of the same party it's quite rare for a first term President to not get re-elected. Plus I just don't see enough middle aged white working class men voting for an old liberal lady whose not super charismatic. Unless Trump really fucks up I'm assuming he's going to be in for 8 years. Incumbency is a huge electoral advantage.
Quote: (01-22-2017 08:26 PM)JackStraw Wrote:
My money is definitely on Michelle Obama at this point. The Dems won't be able to resist it. Warren and Booker will also try to run. All three would/will get crushed by Trump.
Michelle hates politics, she is more than happy to be out the WH, she wanted to divorce Barack back in 2000 after he lose an election:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...cidal.html
This was confirmed by Malik.
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Michelle is not like Hillary, she is not power hungry, She will give speeches for money but won't go after public office.
Besides, the idea of first ladies running POTUS is something the American people dislike, Hillary made it very obvious.
Quote: (01-23-2017 02:16 AM)godfather dust Wrote:
The Democrats are no longer legitimate, they are a subversive group whose overarching goal is world government.
All bets are off.
I'm gonna go off the rails here but the following would not surprise me:
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They did that in 2016 and what happened? It woke up enough people to make the difference and change the political landscape for a generation. The democrats bet everything on identity politics and got dealt a 22. The trend at the state level is definitely red. Solid blue states will stay blue, but "purple" or swing states will sway red in the future as jobs, stability, and law & order return over the next 4 years. No one, frankly, gives a shit about gay marriage, pot, or whatever form of justice is du jour. People care about jobs, terrorism, and the economy.
During the election-inauguration period, President Trump has only solidified his base and added more voters with job creation and investments in the rust belt. That was before one day in office. Now extrapolate that out 4 years and you can begin to see that the democrats have absolutely no hope. They let the old guard fund raisers run the ship onto the reef, who will get it moving again when they are gone?
They won't learn. They will put up a ticket with Harris, Booker, Warren or Castro on it and beat the racism drums once again even as viable candidates emerge but are cast aside for not being a diversity hire. Tim Ryan (D)-OH knows what happened and tried to challenge Pelosi for the Minority Leader seat citing democrat leadership utter failures.
If they run a Webb/Ryan ticket I might worry.
Quote: (01-23-2017 09:44 AM)Latinopan Wrote:
Quote: (01-22-2017 08:26 PM)JackStraw Wrote:
My money is definitely on Michelle Obama at this point. The Dems won't be able to resist it. Warren and Booker will also try to run. All three would/will get crushed by Trump.
Michelle is not like Hillary, she is not power hungry, She will give speeches for money but won't go after public office.
Besides, the idea of first ladies running POTUS is something the American people dislike, Hillary made it very obvious.
That may be true but people said essentially the same things about Trump running for the last decade or however long, saying he won't run. It's just a front with Michelle anyways, an allegedly non political family foil for Barry Soetoro. Propaganda basically. The Dim base loves her and she checks the two biggest identity politics boxes. The Dims will be pushing hard for her by 2019 whether she wants it or not.
I would also say this election was hardly a rejection of First Ladies running. Just one Crooked candidate. People dislike her, not the fact she was First Lady.
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