[Möbius band]

While I make it a rule to not talk to girls about other guys they are dating, a few days ago this topic came up on the first date. The girl was pretty open about seeing a few guys currently. She basically insinuated to me that she wasn't looking for anything serious (we all know what 'seeing' is a euphemism for). I was personally a little taken aback by this since no other woman I've gone out with has mentioned such information on the first date.


I don't know why but just the thought that this seemingly normal looking and acting girl was probably banging 5-6 guys right now in her rotation, and god knows what her overall number is, just made me feel disgusted.

Up until that point we had been talking for around three hours and had made out for a bit. I felt that our conversation was going great and had hopes for this but as soon as she mentioned what she did a sudden feeling of disgust came over me, and ever since the date ended she's messaged me but I haven't bothered responding. What really left that strong distaste in my mouth is the fact she didn't act like a typical slut, I didn't meet her from an online dating site and for all intents and purposes, considering her demeanour and the way she carried herself, it did seem like she came from a decent background.

I mean it wouldn't have bothered me at all if this was your typical club or bar slut I met there or a girl from tinder, but the fact that even the ''normal'' girls are probably slutting it up quite a lot just hit home for me. Now I'm not someone who has the 'harem' approach to girls, I'm someone who is satisfied with an fwb arrangement or two at one time, or an LTR if the right girl comes along. But it's just disenchanting to know that even if I try to go for the girls who seem to have more to their character than just relying on their SMV they are probably sluts. I wasn't naive before and I didn't think that even the seemingly nice girls I meet from day game are totally innocent virgins but it's just the extent of the sluttiness which has hit home for me.

Now of course the question is how do you swallow this pill? Do you decide to just accept it for what it is and go all in and bang the sluts? Do you just get up and leave the West for greener pastures like many in the forum have done? In regards to just banging them I just don't find that enjoyable. I've had a few bangs from bars and a bang from online but I just did not enjoy it at all, I don't prefer the lifestyle of banging large volumes of girls (but not a slight on the guys who prefer this, just that this is not my preference). I feel I have a lot of soul searching to do about this topic, and my thoughts about it are all muddled up after this recent experience (and this also reflecting in my writing I guess). Just want to know if anyone else has felt a bit 'lost' about this and what they've done to overcome it.

[Suits]

These sort of bitter musings don't merit their own thread.

[DarkTriad]

(11-09-2016 08:26 PM)Suits Wrote:  

These sort of bitter musings don't merit their own thread.

This. Here we worry more about OUR notch count than hers.

[elRey]

Disenchantment with reality is a stage in the process of acceptance. Once you accept reality, all good.

If you STAY 'disenchanted with reality', it has less to do with reality, and more to do with YOUR general negative attitude. People adjust pretty well, and what I'm saying is that if you are having trouble with adjusting, you need to be more introspective rather than complain about the world - the problem lies with you.

Many of us guys on the forum have had to swallow various 'red pills' in our life. For me I have had many shocking revelations about the world around me that were hard to deal with at the time.

We get over it. That's all. And we change our lives to get what we want.

There is no reason to be dramatic or deal in principles. Nobody is judging you.

If you want to bang a slut one day, do it. If the next day, you want a sweet girl, get one, and don't regret the previous day.

Our wants change, and it's important to be flexible so 1) we can get what consistently and 2) not regret our past.

All the best.

[General Stalin]

Just because you found one girl who is getting stuffed like a pin cushion doesn't mean they all are. Conversely, you'd probably be surprised at how many girls actually go sexless for a long time.

I personally don't run into too many women who are banging multiple guys at a time, and if they are they certainly don't talk about it. Seems like you found an extra slutty one.

[brick tamland]

@OP, your post resonates for me. There's nothing wrong with feeling disgust, disenchantment, distaste etc.
There's an uncomfortable process to undergo, where you will have to stop assuming things about girls you do not know. Especially, do NOT assume that they are wholesome and upstanding. You will only know a girl when she reveals her character, which usually takes a bit of time.

The only question is - what good does any woman you will ever meet offer YOU / bring to the table?

So for a first date, whatever you were thinking about her was not doing you any good, although you get full marks for getting her out on the date in the first place.
The forum is full of information about the general decline in the innate value of women. Many women are merely following the values and lifestyle that are en vogue at this time, as promoted by the mass media.

Whether every woman SHOULD be wholesome and upstanding is irrelevant - every woman is always fighting a battle to either succumb to degeneracy, or to show restraint. They are neither innately virtuous, nor innately immoral.
As such, there is no such thing as a 'good girl'. Be skeptical.

[Rawmeo]

Some men, like us, are disgusted by those kinds of girls.

Others put a ring on them. All depends on which pill you swallow.

[H1N1]

Personally I would find it refreshingly honest, but then I enjoy that frankness from women, it holds a certain appeal for me - confirmation that they are the little sluts I know them to be.

Her primary usefulness is fucking, and she is doing precisely that. French girls are very good for this kind of transparency. French men are notoriously unfaithful, bless them, and many French girls are quite open about just taking lovers. If you don't judge chicks for this stuff, and just make use of the pussy when it comes your way, you will have a pretty fun time.

It's a surprisingly effective thing to do to talk to a girl at a dinner party (as an Englishman, anyway) about how laissez faire the French are with their attitudes to taking lovers. This should be done conspiratorially so her neighbours can't hear and she feels the thrill of talking taboo in public with you. It's particularly helpful, if you are in polite company, to be smiling and holding eye contact, but oscillating between sensuous language, and the downright coarse. That kind of juxtaposition often works well, I think, because it snaps her out of her reverie - particularly if you can make the word 'fuck' into the rich descriptor it can be by your body language and tone. The advantage of this is that you can essentially talk about fucking her, in significant detail, without ever explicitly making it about the two of you. That uncertainty can prove very enticing. In my experience the girl will almost always touch your leg under the table with hers, because she will have to know whether you're really saying what she thinks you are saying. With sumptuous, rich food and flowing wine, particularly red, the stage is very much set for a night abandoned to the senses.

She may not bite, but personally I've found myself having this conversation several times in the past year or so, and have always ended up fucking the girl that night, usually in a bathroom the first time, and then keeping the girl around for a few months or so until they get attached and it's time for a change.

[XPQ22]

(11-09-2016 07:57 PM)Möbius band Wrote:  

While I make it a rule to not talk to girls about other guys they are dating, a few days ago this topic came up on the first date. The girl was pretty open about seeing a few guys currently. She basically insinuated to me that she wasn't looking for anything serious (we all know what 'seeing' is a euphemism for). I was personally a little taken aback by this since no other woman I've gone out with has mentioned such information on the first date.

A full-blast slut who is already talking about the other guys she's taking cock from, and you've barely pecked her on the lips?





Sounds like a manipulative BPD loopy-do to me. It's amusing how the few girls I've met like that sometimes think I must be so thirsty that I'm going to just sit there and seem impressed.

Remember the golden rule: if you get the feeling that a cute girl is going to be soooo easy to get in the sack that you'll barely have to apply any game at all, she is probably playing you!

Though I can't speak to what those French slutz are like.

[just a human]

I once had 3 dates (with sex) with a 23 y old girl who told me-she has 8 "best friends" and with all of them she has sex.
I understand your emotions-and if you somehow like her-it is hard to accept such things.
But here we go-we should never "fall in love" with such girls. It is a way to hell.
Take her just as a slut-without any emotions. I Know-it is more easy to say than do, but it is only way...
Think about her as a biological being who's destiny is to being fucked-all her life she will be fucked. That's her biological destiny in this world.

[Uhondo]

It doesn't bother me any more than it bothers me when it rains, as we all know it surely will. What I'm i getting at? I have come to accept the nature of women AS THEY ARE, not as i would prefer they be. This is crucial. Guys have said this on here and elsewhere ad infinitum: She is only yours when she's with you. I would learn to live with that fact, and adjust my expectations and behavior around that.

Trust me, the sexual information that i have been privy to is far, far worse than what has been posted in this thread.

Guys don't choose to be players. They simply had better be.

[XPQ22]

(11-10-2016 09:25 AM)just a human Wrote:  

Think about her as a biological being who's destiny is to being fucked-all her life she will be fucked. That's her biological destiny in this world.

Unless one is either a stone-cold sociopath, or perhaps well on the path to Buddhist transcendence and ego death, hooking up with sluts that brazen for any length of time and thinking you'll only ever think of her as a "biological being" without emotional component is a dangerous road to take.

The newbie forum is packed full of posts from guys saying "Help! I fell in love with a slut! What do I do?"

Most of them thought they were hard enough, but there's probably a savior gene in all of us just bursting to get out.

Play with fire, and then expect not to get burned.

[Kid Twist]

Some people just need time. At least in this modern age and society, because it is so nonsensical and confusing to our innate biology.

There is a purpose to being that overly emotional, (in)experienced youth: It was great for initial pair bonding (think of how intense it was in early 20s) at healthy reproductive ages.

The reality is that when you get older, you get naturally more grounded and wise, and know what type of people are FOS. Girls also want your type more.

I'm definitely one of the more traditional people on this site, my problem is that I'm a traditional person in a totally fucked up culture/society. That means I meet very few girls I take seriously, in the first place. I guess that's an advantage, but nothing to be proud about.

[XPQ22]

The OP should also keep in mind that while women have their problems, his thread title indicates that this is some sense a common behavior that all players are intimately familiar with, but my overall experience is that even among the online dating chicks, his description of the interaction does not agree with anything I've encountered regularly and would file under "normal girl behavior." At least in the Northeast US.

My impression is that even most slut's ideal is "one guy at a time" (though it certainly doesn't always work out that way in practice, and the period of "monogamy" may be brief.)

Again, unless she's straightforwardly coming out that she's part of some open relationship "poly" scene, and that's what you want to sign on for, I would avoid this one. I'm calling it as histrionic, borderline, or some other fashion of looney tune.

Did she say something along the lines of "I date for sex, and I also date for romance and love", by any chance?