[Gpx90210]

This girl in Manila about 5 minutes ago starts crying and said "what are girls to you? Fun? Toys?" After I answered a call from my ex asking her when she's free to go out.

I feel slightly bad for her feeling. But should I feel more/less?

[GlobalMan]

It's not a bad thing to have some feeling, it's a good sign. But, I wouldn't feel too guilty in the scenario that I picture you in. She is free to leave anytime she's not happy, you're not keeping prisoners and I assume you made no promises, so no need to feel guilty.

I'd just cut her loose. I don't want people to be unhappy, both for their sake and because I don't want to be around it. There are millions of girls out there.

[John_Galt]

Well, I for one don't think you should rub other women in the girls face. It's one thing for her to see SIGNS that you're banging other chicks, it's another to make plans with some other girl right in front of her face.

Have a little class.

[Gpx90210]

Good advice good advice. I can always count on my brothers here. Thanks guys.

[wi30]

You are essentially providing a service.

Girls want dick. You are providing it. Girls want to experience a roller coaster ride of emotions. You provide those "feels".

Yeah most guys use girls. That much is obvious.

But every girl uses guys. To believe otherwise is to deny reality.

Of course girls are going to put on a show to make you feel guilty. That's how they gain control. Don't give in.

If you aren't exclusive or haven't given any commitment, you owe a woman nothing. They know it and hate it. That's why they deploy the alligator tears.

Don't be a dick, but don't give any woman a slice of anything until you are ready to put a ring on it.

[JWLZG]

To the thread title: Never.

In terms of the context -- what John Galt said.

[GlobalMan]

There's no need to shame the guy John, if you've ever been in SEA, Manila especially, making even a minimal effort it's almost inevitable these situations pop up and it gets tricky. Ideally you don't want to have to take a call with others around, but sometimes this happens.

I'm assuming OP answered a call and vaguely and quickly made plans with someone, not saying "hey baby, yeah come over later" while sitting next to sad girl, and that sad girl is not any kind of girlfriend. If he did do that, well that's a different story.

[Rawmeo]

Perhaps other guys can chime in but I'll show my point of view on the subject. I've been expressing this countless times on the forum, but I will never game girls that could be a potential wife. This includes mainly virgin girls. Unless I'm looking for a LTR, I leave them alone, hoping that they won't put out with a deadbeat loser.

As for others, I never make any promise and if they ask me if I have other girls, I say "not FOR NOW". This lets them know to not put their hopes up. I have strategies to ensure that no girl will ever come in contact with another, but in exchange, I treat harem plates respectfully: not taking calls from other girls, taking them to dinner, etc. they don't just get fucked, they get treated respectfully.

Only exception to the above rules: single moms. Those "charming" ladies won't get more than a bang, and they get to leave once my balls are empty. Their decision to fuck up their lives should in no case be rewarded.

[Space Cowboy]

(11-07-2016 12:18 AM)John_Galt Wrote:  

Well, I for one don't think you should rub other women in the girls face. It's one thing for her to see SIGNS that you're banging other chicks, it's another to make plans with some other girl right in front of her face.

Have a little class.

This x100. What you did is straight up sociopathy. Don't give guys a bad name.

[dongiovanni]

Yes, I always get bad player guilt.

[Gpx90210]

Space cowboy, you're joking right? Sociopathy is going pretty far. Dickish maybe. But as you can see here from the responses it's split 50/50. Had I felt no emotion to even post the question, then yes.

[wi30]

Space Cowboy, swoop in with some complement and cuddle game after the sociopathic Gpx90210 destroys their confidence.

[Gpx90210]

^lmao. Sick fuck.

[Space Cowboy]

(11-07-2016 12:37 AM)Gpx90210 Wrote:  

Space cowboy, you're joking right? Sociopathy is going pretty far. Dickish maybe. But as you can see here from the responses it's split 50/50. Had I felt no emotion to even post the question, then yes.

Fair enough, but as John said-- don't rub their face in it.

[GlobalMan]

If this benign scenario offends some readers then god help you reading Fisto and other dudes who have properly and deliciously ravaged through SEA.

[Mufasa]

I've been out with friends and girls on dates with other men would flirt with me with the guy sitting right there. Just this last night I met a girl, dodged a cock block, kissed her, checked her number on FB this morning and she's engaged...to the cock block..
Should you feel bad about it within the context of the shit women do? Not at all.
Was it ill advised? Maybe.

"Should you feel guilty for gaming chicks?" Like Dante Nero says the game is always being played and you either play the game well or you lose. I feel your question asks should I feel guilty for choosing to play the game well; Hell-To-The-Naw.
We always do what we want to do at the end of the day and if she was a 5-star chick on some "unicorn-woman of value" type shit you probably would have not answered your Ex's call.
Her not being amazing enough to solicit that desired response isn't something that should make you feel bad. As far as I'm concerned she did this to herself homeboy.

[Gpx90210]

Space - Glad we compromised.

Global - Fisto? Tell us more.

Mustasfa - this is INCREDIBLY common in SEA. I have had girls literally undress me and stare through me while with their foreigner man. These girls love cock.

[GlobalMan]

(11-07-2016 01:05 AM)Gpx90210 Wrote:  

Global - Fisto? Tell us more.

Fisto Invades SEA

[John_Galt]

(11-07-2016 12:27 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

There's no need to shame the guy John, if you've ever been in SEA, Manila especially, making even a minimal effort it's almost inevitable these situations pop up and it gets tricky. Ideally you don't want to have to take a call with others around, but sometimes this happens.

I'm assuming OP answered a call and vaguely and quickly made plans with someone, not saying "hey baby, yeah come over later" while sitting next to sad girl, and that sad girl is not any kind of girlfriend. If he did do that, well that's a different story.

Let's be clear: For most American broads, I couldn't care less if they see the condom wrapper in the toilet and another girls hair in the sink. Most of them are only good for one thing, and they know it.

I've not been to the Philippines yet (that changes in January) but from what I understand, these girls are sweet and feminine. Even the sweetest, most loyal girl can be turned into a jaded slut if she's treated poorly enough by enough men. Why treat a nice girl badly? What's to be gained? Sure, if the girl is a ONS and she knows it, who cares, but apparently OP has seen this girl before and wants to see her again, otherwise, why would he create a thread?

I always do my best to treat everyone exactly the way they deserve. Sluts get treated like sluts. But if a girl is respectful and sweet, I treat her well. No reason to fuck her up for the next guy in line.

I'm not trying to "shame" OP. He asked for advice---I gave my input. If he feels guilty, chances are there's a reason for it. He's just seeking confirmation.

All in all, I wouldn't lose sleep over it, but I also would avoid this situation in the future. Like I said, no reason to rub their noses in it.

[Gpx90210]

Don't worry John, I knew you meant it as a brother and not being a dick.

I can confirm your assessment of Phil. The ratio is 90/10 country wide and 75/25 in metro Manila for the nice femenine girls to the Bitch sluts. Most of these girls are very sweet and will do things most American sluts won't. For example, folding my clothes when they are sitting out to dry, sweeping the floor, making the bed. It's the small shit that adds up. Don't be fooled though, life is very tough here and most of them are trying to get out. Don't fall into a visa trap.

Also, you will experience some of the most awesome things in the world. I remember going to el nindo where there is no running water. I had to sleep with an iguana and shower with a bucket and pale. It was an awesome life experience. When you hand pump cold water from a well and pour it over yourself on a hot humid day in the rain forest, there is nothing comparable.

[John_Galt]

Gotcha.

To summarize:

Don't feel guilty for "gaming" chicks. Especially if you're giving them what they want, i.e. a good time, good dick, good emotions.

At the same time, do your best to "leave her better than you found her". Don't treat her poorly, don't make it obvious you're fucking around with other girls, etc. Make the experience a positive memory, and do your best not to spoil it for her. This rules is the OPPOSITE for American chicks, where you need to play "Dread game".

Also, as I haven't ever been with a Phil girl, it's possible that over the long term, "regular" game is required, but I avoid treating "good" girls poorly for the reasons listed above.

[Filbert]

I would feel guilty if I suddenly realize they are seeking a provider. If this is the case I would try to end it, as I don't want to waste her time.

[GlobalMan]

(11-07-2016 01:32 AM)John_Galt Wrote:  

Why treat a nice girl badly?

I don't think one should, and haven't suggested otherwise.

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Regarding Filipinas- Feminine and sweet, sure, most of them are- but in SEA that has little connection to what a girl is about.

If you're meeting a girl in Manila from Tinder or any of the websites there is an extremely high likelihood she has been banged out by at least one member here, and many times multiple members, as has been discovered with great amusement on many occasions. These are usually not angels and "good girls" being "ruined".

Of course, there are truly great girls in SEA too, tons of them, but- Too many guys have this illusion of innocence of foreign pussy, especially Asian chicks, simply because they might clean the floor or wear a dress or not give you attitude. There is no connection between those things and not being a whore.

What's interesting is the same guys who relegate all Western girls to the trash bin, and warn others of "sluts" and promote finding virgins, these guys are usually under the most illusions when it comes to foreign pussy. It's a strange phenomenon.

(06-25-2016 04:15 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

....one should be careful not to get too caught up in the dismissal and disdain for the young American girl, found here too often in my opinion, and the reflexive counter tendency to ascribe all manner of virtuous characteristics to foreign others, even Bangkok whores....

[John_Galt]

I appreciate the word of warning GlobalMan.

Despite my limited experience with foreign women, I do recognize that all women are, at the end of the day, women. I don't care what her race or ethnicity is though, if a woman treats me well, I do the same for her (the exception is when running "dread game" or similar variations).

I've been on both sides of the coin, where the girl treated me well and I used her and left her, and the opposite. I also know that not all women who are semen depositories started out that way. Oftentimes they lost their feminine charm little by little, one guy at a time, one bang and never call again after another, and eventually they lost their soul. Sure, everyone has free will, but why intentionally behave in a way that causes harm to someone else?

I'm not trying to say Beta it up with a girl simply because she's foreign or sweet, but really, is there any advantage to rubbing her face into the fact that you're banging other girls? I thought it was taken for-granted that white men in SEA cleaned up. Why point it out to her?

Is there something I'm missing? Or are you just looking out for me and trying to issue me a warning not to be fooled by the sweet demeanor?

[GlobalMan]

(11-07-2016 02:47 AM)John_Galt Wrote:  

but really, is there any advantage to rubbing her face into the fact that you're banging other girls?

There isn't, but I didn't get the impression that the OP was blatantly rubbing it in her face.

It could have been simply taking a call and discreetly making a plan to meet someone, being vague, and the girl just got the feeling something wasn't right- Or, it could have been him being blatant and without care.

I suppose OP would have to clarify further what exactly went down and in what manner this occurred in order to draw better conclusions.