[Soundbyte]

Hey, I have a quick beginner question about game.

I have noticed that I do better with girls from my country in Africa, usually the fresh off the plane type. But only a couple of years ago I came to the USA, thinking game would be easy, but I get blown out of the water with girls who have lived here all their lives, Can't do anything with them, which is annoying ( girls in hijabs seem to like me though).

So what is the difference in game with American girls? I got annoyed after i messed up my chances with a real sweet gal ( homeschooled, lives at home, religious, etc) so I need to ask before it happens again.

This is so annoying, I'm going to start focusing on Muslim girls, because here in Texas, they are usually stunners on average.

Any thoughts will be appreciated greatly.

[Suits]

I'm so confused by your post.

[Soundbyte]

In better words, I suck at game when it comes to American girls. Either I am too slow, too fast or something else.

While with African girls in general, I do really well in terms closing. Everything from start to finish is smooth and easy.

Sorry, my writing usually is all over the place.

[John_Galt]

Never gamed in Africa. Are you black? Some girls just don't like dating outside of their own race. But some white girls ONLY date black guys.

We need more info about you. Race, style, do you have an accent, height, build etc. Lots of things could be messing you up, not just game.

What kind of girls are rejecting you? How many in total have you approached?

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(11-06-2016 03:52 AM)John_Galt Wrote:  

Never gamed in Africa. Are you black? Some girls just don't like dating outside of their own race. But some white girls ONLY date black guys.

We need more info about you. Race, style, do you have an accent, height, build etc. Lots of things could be messing you up, not just game.

What kind of girls are rejecting you? How many in total have you approached?

I am African, I wear button shirts and jeans mainly. sometimes slacks. I do not have an African accent nor do I have an Americanized accent (long story). 6 feet tall, 216lbs Decent build, kinda fat stomach wise.

In this school year, I approached about 10 girls. Usually on another campus. Girls of all types, I go for short latinas, blond white girls ( somewhat unconsciously).

I have been reading on game theory for a while, so I have an idea of what to do, which is why I am scratching my head at this.

[Suits]

(11-06-2016 05:48 AM)Soundbyte Wrote:  

In this school year, I approached about 10 girls. Usually on another campus. Girls of all types, I go for short latinas, blond white girls ( somewhat unconsciously).

I have been reading on game theory for a while, so I have an idea of what to do, which is why I am scratching my head at this.

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^ Agree, 10 girls is nothing. Come back when you've approached at least 100.

[WestIndianArchie]

Write up one approach with as much detail as possible.

As an example,

I'm out last night
Shoulder button sweater, pink dress shirt underneath, fresh kicks, dark blue jeans. I'm not really killing it appearance wise, but the blazer and pocket square bunch look like clones.

At a restaurant bar with my boy
Fairly trendy.

Talent is overall lacking tonight, but maybe I'm just being picky. All the hottest chicks I've seen so far, have been on the other side of the glass of wherever I'm at. There is something about this town that have made d cups illegal on a girl that isn't a size 14..

I've got half a beer in me. Some horrible Belgian crap.

Me and the homie are posted up by the wall. Any chick that crosses the path can get automatically locked in, so it looks like she's chatting us up.

A dynamic duo of brunettes walk in. They look to be the typical educated professional.They are equally attractive, but not enough for me to go all out. The crew of six off duty firm lawyers tries to engage, but they'd rather talk shop then try and get their dicks wet.

So I have to approach, I've been silent most of the day.

I take five bucks out of my pocket.

Walk towards the chicks, which is two steps.

Show the five

"We gotta bet going that you two are sisters..."
Totally have all the same mannerisms...

Chick - Oh, no we're totally NOT, haha

I end the interaction by turning away and giving my boy the five dollars. Being a great wing man, he totally riffed off of me.

Chick - But we both have the same last name...

So just on that, I'm leaving the set and she re-engages me. Which tells me she's open to the chat. Her making an effort is the beginning of the "I want your validation" cycle

Me and boy are both black, these chicks were white. Not that any of that would have made a difference.

What made a difference was I wasn't super attracted, and probably would need some convincing to go all in.

None of it had anything to do with my looks, my body fat percentage, my height, music, social proof.

It was just finding a reason to talk and getting them to want to talk to us. And that happened because I got a decent reaction, and then withdrew my attention.

There are millions of ways to do this, this is just one example.

That's game 101, took 90-120 seconds.

WIA

My boy did not give me back my $5

[Soundbyte]

Thanks for the advice.

I'll start a 100 approach log soon and probably record some bytes.

[John_Galt]

You approached 10 girls in a foriegn country and are suprised you didn't get laid?

Seriously?

A lot of members of this forum won't get laid every 10 approaches. As always, it's a numbers game. Even if you're good looking and have great game, you could feasibly approach 10 women who just aren't open to being fucked. Too many variables. 10 women is nothing. 100 is a minimum. I'd advise you approach at least 250. Just the act of approaching will teach you infinitely more than we can through a forum.

If you approach a ton of women and STILL haven't had success, detail your approaches and how things went down. THEN we can discuss how to improve.

Also, as a rule of thumb, African-American women are more open to African guys, in general. That is NOT to say black guys can't fuck white girls. Plenty of black guys fuck white women exclusively. But if you're looking for the path of least resistance, I'd start there.

But approach any girl you find attractive. This is just advice to short-cut your time to lay.

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(11-06-2016 04:07 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  

You approached 10 girls in a foriegn country and are suprised you didn't get laid?

Seriously?

A lot of members of this forum won't get laid every 10 approaches. As always, it's a numbers game. Even if you're good looking and have great game, you could feasibly approach 10 women who just aren't open to being fucked. Too many variables. 10 women is nothing. 100 is a minimum. I'd advise you approach at least 250. Just the act of approaching will teach you infinitely more than we can through a forum.

If you approach a ton of women and STILL haven't had success, detail your approaches and how things went down. THEN we can discuss how to improve.

Also, as a rule of thumb, African-American women are more open to African guys, in general. That is NOT to say black guys can't fuck white girls. Plenty of black guys fuck white women exclusively. But if you're looking for the path of least resistance, I'd start there.

But approach any girl you find attractive. This is just advice to short-cut your time to lay.

I approached 10 girls this semester in the USA.Total in 1 year is about 50-60. Yeah even 50 is low, but I with that number, I don't really get much interest.

[John_Galt]

Try approaching more black girls. Also vary your venues. Don't approach on campus exclusively. Bookstores, the mall, hell, the grocery store---all viable options.

Different types of girls have different "types". Contrary to PUA marketing, game is NOT a "fix-all". No matter how good you are, you won't be able to fuck every girl every time. There are a lot of other variables, game simply helps stack the odds in your favor.

[realologist]

I knew we had loyalty on the forum.



First thing you need to do is approach more. 10 girls I'm 3-4 months is nothing. Thats 3 a month.

Next use the fact that you are a foreigner to your advantage. You're new, you're exciting, You're DIFFERENT! Being different is better then the same in game.