Quote: (11-01-2016 11:01 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
This post is about
1) Whether you should pursue
2) How to recover
3) Accepting the frame
Let's start here: There is no option to not invite her directly over.
You HAVE TO pursue this chick only with the Netflix and Chill Scenario.
She scoffs or balks at your offer.
I'd laugh it off and frame it as, "Hey can't blame a man for not trying lol, unless you like a man without a plan or sense of direction...."
She'll probably say that's kind of true or will challenge you with saying you could do better.
Pivot - to re-framing/recovering the conversation by talking about her evening schedule this week.
Once she gives you her open evenings, play it as, you've got alot of plans but X day should work at Y, at Z time.
She agrees - and you meet up.
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Folks talking about how to avoid this problem in the first place are telling me that they can't handle the issue. They don't see solutions. I don't know if I see one either, but this is not my area.
Like all my posts, this is where you guys can school me.
It's easy to handle issue - you'll get 3 responses.
1. No response - next.
2. Easy going response - she laughs - reframe and plan something.
3. Bitchy response or getting told off - low chance of reframing - but nothing to lose.
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The offline equivalent is an approach that shows you're trying to bang and you've already made up your mind (direct) and she's like no. Offline, you can just sit there and let her break and go into explanation of why she can't, and play off her reaction which then changes her mood. That's a more nuanced approach to direct game, but I'm not going to derail my own post.
It's great you bring this up because you will STILL experience this after getting that online girl on a date.
Especially when its time to venue change or you're dropping bait and pull the trigger on bouncing back to your pad.
You'll see her reaction, body language, and how she replies. Plenty of tells and feelers there.
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Online? You don't have the ability to sub communicate or interact nonverbally.
WIA
Agree, which is why it's EXTREMELY important to get that number fast, start texting her.
Personally I use the "hey I'm driving, call me, don't wanna text and die" line to have them call ME and then feel them out via actual convo over the phone instead of text.
Alot of females appreciate that call (I have another game plan once I get them on the phone - pertains to some comfort game and bait dropping).
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I forgot to discuss something that was brought up - not going direct when first talking to a female online.
It absolutely helps to not go direct and usually this is my formula:
Match> Get intel (questions/background)> Relate and humble brag> standard number close> Text tagline intro to her>
chat up AND/OR call> setup meet> meet up> venue change> drop bait> bounce to pad> bang.
EVEN if I had a female come over directly, it was overtly, I've never used the "netflix and chill" line - nor have I said, "hey come over and watch a movie with me."
I've never offered to cook, have a drink at my place, or whatever. (Maybe I've lost some bangs ? Doubtful)
It's more along the lines of "I worked all day and went to the gym, I just wanna lounge around and vibe out, sound good ?"
Some girls are game and it gives them plausible deniability.