[Vincent Chase]

Just had a "netflix and chill" an hour ago.

Never met her before, told her we should chill and try some wine. Met her 2 minutes away walked here, banged within 10 minutes of meeting her and that was that.

If she wasn't down for it I would just go ghost on her or try another time, I've got 20 other girls to go through and busy with life.

[DonnyGately]

(11-01-2016 10:17 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

#teamappetizer

There is a big difference between facilitating romance and paying for it. Plenty of potential players put pennies before pussy.

WIA

#TeamUber

Uber and drinks for broke college girls is super-standard in a big city. They're wearing next to nothing in stilettos, you're gonna make them walk or take the subway? You need to make it as easy as possible.

Remember building a Yes ladder? Anyone? Bueller?
Wear X. We're meeting at Y. Uber is picking you up at Z. You drink A right? Let's go to B now. I'll show you my pad. You're a bad girl admit it...

Girls that have money will generally uber/taxi themselves there and back.

Like others, I never invite them to my place to start. But if that happened to me I would obviously suggest drinks and very carefully watch her reactions, her eyes. Is she happy now, preening, exposing her body, turning to you? If not see if she warms up on the way other with some smooth talking, if she's still icy then bounce. #TeamNext.


Me: Let's Netflix and Chill
Her: Okay

Her: You don't have netflix.
Me: [Pulls out 20 condoms] I don't have any chill either.

[General Stalin]

Of I wasn't ony phone I'd be posting the black kid "ooohhhhhhh!" Gif.

I go for NF&C if she seems casual enough and low investment enough. I usually word it like "well I'm gonna relax, drink wine, and watch a movie you should join me" of she isn't down then I'll say "well I'm staying in tonight but Thurs yadda yadda"

I haven't had many girls be shitty or get offended/give an attitude about it. 50/50 they are down to hang. The other 49% will just say they don't go right to a guy's house first meet which is totally reasonable and we schedule a different date. I've only had a couple girls get real salty about it.

[XPQ22]

I've been doing online game day in and day out for a year now, and while I've heard tell of these mythical "zero date bangs" with "hot girls" before, my experience so far indicates them to be simply mythical.

Then again, I'm mostly dealing with well-trodden pussy in that most desirable of all demographics, 28-35. I'd likely have far more luck making a unicorn materialize in my apartment than pulling an attractive 32 y/o directly to my place without at least a few bar drinks. There isn't a "5" in this town aged 27+ thirsty enough for dick to not attempt to leverage more than that out of a meet, and they often get way, way more (from dudes who aren't me.)

God bless you, Vincent. Living the dream...

[wi30]

I'm on team meet in public first. I don't want to get cat-fished or run into a SIF. If she looks bangable and seems DTF, I'll take her back to my apartment. I don't want ugly girls or crazy bitches knowing where I live. I usually say something about having to let out my dog, which every girl wants to meet after I've shown them pictures of her doing tricks.

I picked up girl once from the address she sent me, which I assumed was her house. It ended up being a church and she said she was at a Narcotics Anonymous meeting. She was telling me about how she used to be addicted to painkillers. There were also a bunch of other red flags that came up, so I bailed on the date as soon as possible. I'm glad she didn't know where I lived. It seemed like a false rape accusation waiting to happen.

[delineator]

This move is very played out - I've met so many women here in Chicago who have told about how guys ask them to just come over and watch netflix on the first date. If you're a veteran online dater it's easy to distinguish the girls who would be up for straight to your place first date bang. I've had success just straight up asking those girls if they want to have sex. Start with indirect sexual innuendo and those types of girls will usually pick up on what you're looking for. Being indirect makes them feel like less of a slut and more likely to come over.

[CJ]

Netflix and chill is too cliché now, and there's the implication. That's best for after the first bang.

Honestly though, you're putting way too much thought into this for an online chick.

[RatInTheWoods]

I agree with Giovonny, this isn't a disaster and she is not a write off.

She has shown interest so still in the game.

Don't be so lame or a tight ass that you won't buy a drink or coffee and meet face to face in public to reassure her and build comfort.

I much prefer to date a woman that won't net flix and chill on the first date and is sensible and non slutty enough to at least want a date first.

[pancakemouse]

(11-01-2016 08:34 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

I've been doing online game day in and day out for a year now, and while I've heard tell of these mythical "zero date bangs" with "hot girls" before, my experience so far indicates them to be simply mythical.

Then again, I'm mostly dealing with well-trodden pussy in that most desirable of all demographics, 28-35. I'd likely have far more luck making a unicorn materialize in my apartment than pulling an attractive 32 y/o directly to my place without at least a few bar drinks. There isn't a "5" in this town aged 27+ thirsty enough for dick to not attempt to leverage more than that out of a meet, and they often get way, way more (from dudes who aren't me.)

God bless you, Vincent. Living the dream...

It's all about how facially attractive you are. If you are a Chad you can get hot girls (7+) to come straight over.

[John_Galt]

The bottom line is what I and others have said: Netflix and chill is the new "dinner and a movie". It's the chode date. Worse, it doesn't even give plausible deniability to her.

It's played out. If you're still using it, expect this to keep happening.

It had a good run. Just like peacocking had a good run. It's not to say it will NEVER work, but by continuing to use a played out tactic, you will notice a diminishing success rate.

In short, it's not the girl. It's not your game. It's the approach you took for the "date".

[kaotic]

(11-02-2016 02:11 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  

The bottom line is what I and others have said: Netflix and chill is the new "dinner and a movie". It's the chode date. Worse, it doesn't even give plausible deniability to her.

It's played out. If you're still using it, expect this to keep happening.

It had a good run. Just like peacocking had a good run. It's not to say it will NEVER work, but by continuing to use a played out tactic, you will notice a diminishing success rate.

In short, it's not the girl. It's not your game. It's the approach you took for the "date".

I don't agree that it's a chode date. Because it really isn't a date, you're literally meeting up, sitting on a bed or couch then smashing.

It's no dinner and a movie because, totally different vibe, that's comparing apples to oranges.

The right guy can still pull this off, especially if he's got amazing pictures and is a stud.

He might say it jokingly and the girl might jump on it.

But yeah, the average guy isn't pulling this off in a long shot.

I DO agree that it is played out and using has very low and diminishing returns.



The whole premise is about HOW you handle her response when she scoffs.

Rarely do you get a chick who will block you or not responde, most will take it as a joke, then the real game begins on how you respond, then reframe the meet up.

[John_Galt]

(11-02-2016 02:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-02-2016 02:11 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  

The bottom line is what I and others have said: Netflix and chill is the new "dinner and a movie". It's the chode date. Worse, it doesn't even give plausible deniability to her.

It's played out. If you're still using it, expect this to keep happening.

It had a good run. Just like peacocking had a good run. It's not to say it will NEVER work, but by continuing to use a played out tactic, you will notice a diminishing success rate.

In short, it's not the girl. It's not your game. It's the approach you took for the "date".

I don't agree that it's a chode date. Because it really isn't a date, you're literally meeting up, sitting on a bed or couch then smashing.

It's no dinner and a movie because, totally different vibe, that's comparing apples to oranges.

You're completely correct. Allow me to clarify:

Because it's used by a majority of men now, and because the majority of men are chodes, most of the time this opener is used, women assume you are "guilty by association" i.e. a chode.

As a general rule, whenever player tactics start being publicized in mainstream media outlets (Buzzfeed etc) and it becomes a meme, it's been played out and you should stop using it.

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The right guy can still pull this off, especially if he's got amazing pictures and is a stud.

He might say it jokingly and the girl might jump on it.

The guy you described could be successful with the old Jeffy from RSD opener: "I like salad." What's your point? I don't think WIA is that guy, if he were, this thread wouldn't exist. (No offense to WIA, I'm no ripped stud either)

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The whole premise is about HOW you handle her response when she scoffs.

Rarely do you get a chick who will block you or not responde, most will take it as a joke, then the real game begins on how you respond, then reframe the meet up.

Sure, I can get behind that. My thoughts are "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." I don't think I have anything incredibly good to add as a reframe, so I'll leave that part of the discussion to the other members here.

[DonnyGately]

First off, peacocking always 'works' in that it gets a reaction and a girl's attention off her phone. If one thinks that means wearing a top hat and LED necklace then you probably shouldn't post in this thread. It's never played out.

If you actually know how to dress you'll get a positive reaction almost universally.. Any single girl at a bar, coffee, club, will want to know who you are and what's going on. If you're reasonable attractive [I'm not ripped either] I'd be shocked if she didn't give you 30-120 seconds to run game on her, another positive reaction and she's now in your world.

I think I'm gonna try 'Wanna Netflix and bang?' Any girl who doesn't say yes or, more likely, laugh is not worth my time anyway...

[John_Galt]

I don't think you or anyone else was did not understand what I meant when I used the term "peacocking".

Do you think I'm referring to wearing a necklace or nice shoes? Would you say some guy who has an interesting necklace is engaging in "peacocking"?
I wouldn't.

Like game in general, it works best when you don't know it's even happening. Sure, wearing an article or accessory that allows women to take note and comment on DOES work. But we both know that is NOT what I was referencing.

Just like having a girl over to "watch a movie" can still work. But it WILL FAIL most of the time when done in such a way that women recognize it for what it is. A bang date.

Peacocking works----when women have no idea that you're peacocking. Movie date bangs work----when women don't overtly know you're suggesting banging at your place.

Please leave the straw man arguments at the door next time.

[fiasco360]

First priority is get the girl out to meet me in person. So if she balks at the idea of Netflix and Chill, I would just play it cool, reframe it and say we can grab a drink at a nearby bar.

Once we're out together then the general vibe almost always changes. A vast majority of women treat you like a computer since you're texting but once you become a "real person" to them the dynamic shifts a lot in your favor.

[DonnyGately]

(11-02-2016 06:43 PM)John_Galt Wrote:  

I don't think you or anyone else was did not understand what I meant when I used the term "peacocking".

JFC, you have no idea what I understand. Pretty aggressive for a new arrival, good luck with that.

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Do you think I'm referring to wearing a necklace or nice shoes?

No, are you being overtly ignorant on purpose?

[John_Galt]

Donny,

You won't be successful in trying to goad an argument. I made my point clear. Do you have something to add or counter? Or is this just trying to pick a senseless fight?

Let's keep the thread on topic. Thanks.