[david.garrett84]

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Demi Lovato opened up in a new interview with Glamour, talking about everything from her love life to her plans to take a break from the spotlight [plausible deniability, all while she's deliberately creating a stir], but what has caught everyone’s attention most of all has been Lovato’s words about Taylor Swift. Specifically, Demi calls out Taylor for paying lip service to feminism and gender equality issues without actually doing anything to support causes related to the feminist movement. While Swift hasn’t directly fired back at Lovato, sources close to Swift have come forward to blast Lovato for her harsh criticism, particularly when Swift and Lovato have never been close friends.

During her interview, it seemed inevitable that Demi would be asked about the other artists with whom she shares the spotlight, and as E! News reveals, Ms. Lovato takes particular exception to Taylor Swift. Demi explained that Taylor and her “squad” may talk a big game, but when it comes to feminism, Swift epitomizes exactly the type of image the movement seeks to change.

For instance, Lovato draws attention to Swift and her squad for their body images, physiques that are not normal for the average woman and create unrealistic expectations for millions of Swift’s fans [Taylor Swift and many of her friends are naturally thin, not sure Lovato what expects - perhaps them gaining 150 extra pounds each?].

“It’s kind of this false image of what people should look like,” Demi said of Taylor and her squad. “And what they should be like, and it’s not real.”

Ms. Lovato also criticized Swift for her “Bad Blood” song and accompanying music video, which was all created solely to spread animosity toward Katy Perry, yet another artist with whom Taylor has had a feud. Demi says Swift spent too much negative energy trying to cast a bad light on a fellow artist, when that much energy might have been better spent improving Taylor’s own craft.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3566339/demi-lo...st-claims/

This all seems irrelevant and uninteresting to many people, but I find it quite the opposite. Claiming feminism has become the stock-standard way for artists to elevate their profiles and make every conceivable kind of female behavior legitimate, provided a particular girl wants to engage in it for profit.

There seems to be no entry requirements other than:
- you're a female
- you say things like "girl power"
- you complain about social discrimination against and objectification of women in society when you earn millions of dollars from either rampant sexualization of yourself or general use of your looks

Think about it... here's a very basic spectrum of music girl feminists: Miley Cyrus - Nicky Minaj - Ariana Grande - Beyoncé - Taylor Swift. There's a massive disparity in how some of these girls behave compared to one another, irrespective of whether they all benefit from sexual or looks-based representations.

Even when celebrities "support" feminism, it's always done publicly and, considering girls like Lovato and Ariana Grande sexualize themselves to the hilt, arguably to deflect criticism about their own constant self-objectification.

Lovato, whom I am only vaguely familiar with, is also picking a beef with a much bigger fish. Ironic how these girls turn on each other to promote themselves. Very much like a less profanity-laden version of rappers having feuds.

[hv123]

Your point is - it's all about increasing their profile?

Feminism - definite check in this day and age
Fueds - per rappers, agree
Tits/Ass out - only really interesting thing about them.

I guess you could ask the question that how much is attention whoring for its own sake and how much is to make more money. I suspect make more money. You're not going to see a treatise from Nicki Minaj on Michel Foucault's Discipline and Punish, any time soon are you. Tits out/fued/you go gurl.

[Rush87]

So basically, she's jealous. Feminism wouldn't exist if ugly women didn't exist.

[hv123]

(10-06-2016 03:53 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

So basically, she's jealous. Feminism wouldn't exist if ugly women didn't exist.

clicked the link to see how she is - she's hardly a munter though is she?

[dispenser]

So I sez to Mabel, I sez, "Veronica sez Betty is a bitch," and Mabel, she sez to me... etc.

[weambulance]

Normal chicks are bad enough, chicks in entertainment are usually borderline retarded. My dogs make way more sense than the typical celebrity chick.

[kosko]

Feminism has become a marketing gimick. Just like gluten free and other foodie BS you can target and lure in a large swath of women by claiming bogus femenist tropes as a standard in your imagery.

Demi Lavato is correct but also stupid. She is biting the hand that feeds her and now irrario5nal young women are out for her blood simply for dissing the sisterhood.

Demi Lavato I have had a soft spot for. It is the irrational animal part of my brain and I really can't offer much reason as to why; aside from the fact I can see in her vibes and eyes that I would have very degrading and rough jungle sex with her and she would enjoy it very much.

Demi is slightly crazed. She shoots herself in the foot all the time with comments that don't help her brand.

[AneroidOcean]

Taylor Swift made a really fucking weird music video but with some decently hot chicks about her fued with Katy Perry I guess. Dunno, I'd bang a few of them for sure but I don't believe for a second their "badass girl" image, that's just how they imagine themselves:

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Something I've noticed in the unfortunate (though thankfully few) instances where I've had to interact with SJW types in a social or professional interaction is that you can effectively discern their relative level of true belief in Social Justice ideology by their opinions on the topic of Taylor Swift.

The ones that only identify with it superficially for their own professional benefit or for virtue-signalling points generally hold a neutral to positive opinion on her.

The true believers absolutely despise her. And when I say 'absolutely despise', I mean with a level of vitriol that you would think would be reserved for someone like Roosh or Milo. They hate her because she represents what to them is likely the closest thing possible to a mortal sin - she represents (gasp!) .... white feminism.

If you're ever bored and feel like watching an SJW circular firing squad operate in real time, feel free to type the terms 'taylor swift white feminism' into Google and enjoy.

[Slim Shady]

I don't understand how Taylor Swift's body is "unrealistic" if it actually exists - on Taylor Swift!

Anyways, all of these fat singers, like Megan Trainor, say "don't body shame" as they body shame skinny girls.

I haven't heard them call out Nicki Minaj for saying "fuck skinny bitches" in her songs.

Anyways, Taylor Swift is best friends with Lena Dunham, so her head is sure as hell poisoned.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(10-06-2016 07:54 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

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If you're ever bored and feel like watching an SJW circular firing squad operate in real time, feel free to type the terms 'taylor swift white feminism' into Google and enjoy.

Took the challenge. This quote, from the first article google puked up.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/09/tayl...-feminism/

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Okay. I admit it: At first glance, I couldn’t see anything vehemently, inherently anti-feminist about this video. And even in preparation for writing this article, I rewatched it, scrutinizing it for something obviously racist, homophobic, or ableist. But nothing jumps out at me in particular.

So I’ll take this space to state the obvious: Every love interest that Taylor has ever had — to my knowledge, both in real life and in her videos — has been a straight, cis, able-bodied, fit, middle-to-upper class, white dude.

And while it’s in Taylor’s right to be attracted to and date whomever suits her fancy, her ivory tower fantasy worlds aren’t doing much to push back against systemic oppression — which, like, is what feminists are supposed to do.

That's right. You're not a real feminist unless you re-wire every aspect of your life to serve feminism (or fat acceptance, or... non-cis acceptance... umm, what?) up to and including dating and fucking people of bizarre human configurations that you have no attraction toward and indeed who may disgust you.

[kosko]

It's all window dressing.

Feminist, and their overwhelming "preferences" to only fuck and date white dudes is very taboo amongst those circles.

To the point many feminists would rather date a woman or a transsexual for "SJW tokens" versus a man of color.

A poll ran here last year in the weekly rag paper we have surveyed Toronto people on love and relationships. Though respondents where overwhelming in being supportive of weirdo non conventional stuff like same-sex and poly, they by majority did not feel that more or less that "diverse relationships" should be expected, and the option for "preferences" won out.

I use my city as an example because Torono happens to be the most feminist city in the world; while also being one of the most diverse. It is a test tube for the hysterical feminism to be exposed.

Another example: Just the other night at the Blue Jays game fans tossed beer and yelled racist slurs at the Baltimore outfielder who happens to be Asian. But..but..but..Toronto the good! Toronto the tolerant!

Instances like above expose the sham of how these SJW moments are not about inclusiveness and tolerance. The exact opposite takes places as polarization and divisions permeate.

For a liberal man like myself, Toronot, it is a smgasboard of exotic pussy. I smashed a Bangladesh girl with hair down to her ass buttery brown skin just the other week, Toronto treats liberal men well who don't buy into that SJW crap. I find myself being the liberal and tolerant one as I really don't give a fuck where a girls comes from. Just be hot and get my wood going and we good to go!

But I am a minority on this. You go to SJW events and the crowds are largely white with a few dumpy Asian and Jewish broads to break up the monotony. Even the black women who partake in hardcore SJW fall for it, or they go the other extreme of fortifying themselves with only other black SJWs. All a damn joke how divisive it all is.

Modern feminism was always simply just a tool for weak and/or ugly women to boost themselves up and provide a means to get above their station in regards to status, mating, etc.

Taylor Swift simply just parades this meme without any smoke and mirrors. She present's the very blunt reality of feminism where a mousey amazon white girl can burn through high value cocks all while playing dress up as a popstar. It 's all so obvious the feminists get uncomfortable. Almost like Taylor Swift will expose their hustle for the world to see.

[Bacchus]

Demi Lovato might be the craziest bitch in Hollywood since bald-headed Britney.

Let's go through a checklist of her major malfunctions: bulimia, nervous breakdowns, bi-polar, drug addiction, and self-harm (i.e. cutting). And she spoke at the 2016 DNC in support of Hillary.

In fact, a rough guiding principle for your beliefs could be has Demi Lovato spoken against it. Body shaming now, tomorrow, and forever!

[Captainstabbin]

Demi is so jealous. It's like Brian Wilson trying to match the Beatle's fame - it's driven her crazy.

She's a moderately talented girl who is (when she has her weight under control) pretty. She's probably even a better singer than Taylor. But she wants the same level of fame. Taylor's "squad" is the who's who of Hollywood, while Demi's best friend (currently) is the horrible rapper with a fake ass, Iggy Azalea.

[eatthishomie]

Funny thing is she portrays herself as this tough ass kicking grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl in at least one of her videos when it's obvious she's falling apart at the seams by just about every possible metric (career and money aside).

[porscheguy]

(10-06-2016 08:52 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 07:54 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

So I’ll take this space to state the obvious: Every love interest that Taylor has ever had — to my knowledge, both in real life and in her videos — has been a straight, cis, able-bodied, fit, middle-to-upper class, white dude.

Let's be honest, according to feminism, only short, fat girls, are entitled to these kinds of guys.

Feminism at its core is just a bunch of jealous bitches hatin'.

[Atlanta Man]

(10-06-2016 08:52 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 07:54 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

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If you're ever bored and feel like watching an SJW circular firing squad operate in real time, feel free to type the terms 'taylor swift white feminism' into Google and enjoy.

Took the challenge. This quote, from the first article google puked up.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/09/tayl...-feminism/

Quote:

Okay. I admit it: At first glance, I couldn’t see anything vehemently, inherently anti-feminist about this video. And even in preparation for writing this article, I rewatched it, scrutinizing it for something obviously racist, homophobic, or ableist. But nothing jumps out at me in particular.

So I’ll take this space to state the obvious: Every love interest that Taylor has ever had — to my knowledge, both in real life and in her videos — has been a straight, cis, able-bodied, fit, middle-to-upper class, white dude.

And while it’s in Taylor’s right to be attracted to and date whomever suits her fancy, her ivory tower fantasy worlds aren’t doing much to push back against systemic oppression — which, like, is what feminists are supposed to do.

That's right. You're not a real feminist unless you re-wire every aspect of your life to serve feminism (or fat acceptance, or... non-cis acceptance... umm, what?) up to and including dating and fucking people of bizarre human configurations that you have no attraction toward and indeed who may disgust you.

You should be ashamed of yourself you white supremist male oppressor!!! Everydayfeminism.com is absolutely right, if Taylor Swift is really a feminist she must push back against the white supremacist patriarchal society-by sleeping with my black ass! I would fuck her down to boost her feminist credentials! My dick in Taylor Swift is what a feminist looks like!

[CynicalContrarian]

(10-06-2016 08:52 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 07:54 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

...
If you're ever bored and feel like watching an SJW circular firing squad operate in real time, feel free to type the terms 'taylor swift white feminism' into Google and enjoy.

Took the challenge. This quote, from the first article google puked up.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/09/tayl...-feminism/

Quote:

Okay. I admit it: At first glance, I couldn’t see anything vehemently, inherently anti-feminist about this video. And even in preparation for writing this article, I rewatched it, scrutinizing it for something obviously racist, homophobic, or ableist. But nothing jumps out at me in particular.

So I’ll take this space to state the obvious: Every love interest that Taylor has ever had — to my knowledge, both in real life and in her videos — has been a straight, cis, able-bodied, fit, middle-to-upper class, white dude.

And while it’s in Taylor’s right to be attracted to and date whomever suits her fancy, her ivory tower fantasy worlds aren’t doing much to push back against systemic oppression — which, like, is what feminists are supposed to do.

That's right. You're not a real feminist unless you re-wire every aspect of your life to serve feminism (or fat acceptance, or... non-cis acceptance... umm, what?) up to and including dating and fucking people of bizarre human configurations that you have no attraction toward and indeed who may disgust you.

Not that it wasn't already evident that these deranged dopes are incapable of being reasoned with.
That right there clearly demonstrates the idea.

"We can't immediately find anything problematic with what we were going to trash.
So we'll just make up some convoluted tripe instead."

[preppy]

Lana Del Rey is way more talented than either of them..and she hates feminism. Good job, Lana.

[Mushroom]

Demi Lovato just looks like a troll to me. A hot troll, but not hot enough to get me interested. And she's batshit insane collecting mental issues like Pokemon.

I know Taylor Swift's looks have been debated on this forum here before, but that woman gives me the tingles and I don't need to debate it. Hell, I once went with my ex to the wax museum in LA and the figure of Taylor Swift gave me a half chub. It's the combo of the body type, the blue eyes, blonde hair and red lipstick, she's sexy. I don't give a shit about her or her music though.