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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

The pill is quite uncommon in Japan. Coincidence?

See here: https://healthytokyo.com/blog/birth-cont...sic-guide/
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:49 PM)rpg Wrote:  

Women are made to pop out kids young within a stable secure relationship. Everything our culture says and does is against nature. That is what fucks up women. Add in abortion guilt and it is really toxic to the female mind.
The only path to turning this around is to rectify the culture. Women should marry at 18+ to a much older man that can provide and act maturely. Then after popping out some kids, they can tie their tubes and get on with education and a career at age 30+.

Perfect plan...except it means that women would have to spend their most attractive years with one man instead of getting peak fertility attention from as many alphas and betas as possible. Therefore, they will never go for it. [Image: confused.gif]
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-03-2016 05:46 AM)Periphrasis Wrote:  

The pill is quite uncommon in Japan. Coincidence?

See here: https://healthytokyo.com/blog/birth-cont...sic-guide/

Well, then again. Not a lot of hanky-panky going on in Japan regardless...
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

The most bat shit crazy chick I knew popped the most pills of anyone I'd ever seen.

Had aborted multiple times for a beta manlet who demanded she become muslim before marrying her- this after aborting severally for him. Then to rub it in, she got involved in the beta's wedding prep.

Never recovered and had horrible mood swings. Told me that her baby daddy, who she hates, and would kill in a heartbeat- but after FUCKING him because 'his dick was the right size'.

Chick wanted me to marry her. Haha. I was beta then, but absorbing the red pill steadily which she found intruiging.

Glad I missed that sinking ship.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 04:30 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:49 PM)rpg Wrote:  

Women are made to pop out kids young within a stable secure relationship. Everything our culture says and does is against nature. That is what fucks up women. Add in abortion guilt and it is really toxic to the female mind.
The only path to turning this around is to rectify the culture. Women should marry at 18+ to a much older man that can provide and act maturely. Then after popping out some kids, they can tie their tubes and get on with education and a career at age 30+.

I can get behind that ticket. RPG for president! (may be a tough sell but one can dream)

Important to package as "getting more and getting ahead" rather than "giving up a career".

"The Special Way the Special You Can Have it All (In Stages) "
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

While we are on the topic of the Pill, I was curious about otehr contraceptives as well taht woemn do.

There are two very popular long term contraceptives( apart from the pill) that are very popular here in Australia:

Implanon/Nexplanon- which is inserted into the upper arm for 3-5 years continuous contraception

Vaginal ring- inserted into the vagina for continuous contraception

Out of curiosity, do these contraceptives also affect the mental health of a woman and cause side effects like it lowering women's sex drive, changes women's sexual preferences toward men who are more effeminate, depression/weight gain/psychosis ?
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:44 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

Things I've heard about the pill, from science articles and from women themselves:

- it lowers women's sex drive
- it changes women's sexual preferences toward men who are more effeminate (possibly making them more prone to lesbianism? Iunno)
- it makes them depressed/crazy
- it makes them gain weight
- traces of artificial hormones are now showing up in drinking water, so it really can't be avoided

So yeah, add to this the emotional scarring of increased carousel riding, higher likelihood of contracting STDs, and the general devaluing of men/male partnership that comes from women's sexual liberation... yeah, that's a perfect storm.

Supposedly, when a woman is on birth control, she prefers a man who is more effeminate and likely to stick around, given that her body is pregnant. When she's ovulating, however, her mate preference is different.

It's one of my theories that the huge increase in divorces in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, was from girls who took the pill until they got married, and then realized something was off about their husbands when those husbands smelled different, after those ladies went off the pill.

G
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-03-2016 09:12 AM)Lucario Wrote:  

While we are on the topic of the Pill, I was curious about otehr contraceptives as well taht woemn do.

There are two very popular long term contraceptives( apart from the pill) that are very popular here in Australia:

Implanon/Nexplanon- which is inserted into the upper arm for 3-5 years continuous contraception

Vaginal ring- inserted into the vagina for continuous contraception

Out of curiosity, do these contraceptives also affect the mental health of a woman and cause side effects like it lowering women's sex drive, changes women's sexual preferences toward men who are more effeminate, depression/weight gain/psychosis ?

They're all hormonal contraceptives, which means that they have the same mechanism of action. The only difference is how they deliver the hormones. They also can have more severe side effects, since it's a continuous dose of hormones versus taking a pill, but that's the purpose. Quite frankly, Nexplanon is something I would never consider if I was a woman given the multitude of issues that can occur from taking it. There's a lot that can go wrong all for the "convenience" of not having to take a pill a day.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

My wife was briefly on the pill (part of the process if you do IVF). It had real and immediate negative effects on her mood: More emotionally sensitive, depressed, lowered libido, harder to mentally focus.

We were both quite happy when she was allowed to cease taking them. She returned to normal shortly after.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Good points made all through this thread...deserves a bump.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Taking the pill also increases a girl's likelihood of getting breast cancer.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Second order effect: does the pill-induced preference for Beta Males create a market incentive for men to tone down their Alpha behaviour? In other words, is the pill indirectly causing the general male populace to act more cucked than they otherwise would?
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 09:41 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:09 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  

Is it the hormones of the IUDs/pills, or the psychological scarring of the cock carousel that contraceptives enable access to, that makes a chick depressed?

Probably both, but the psychological effects of high notch counts are harder to quantify.

Chicken or the egg? I'd love to see a study done on this but there are way too many variables involved. It'd be near impossible to isolate each one.

I saw the mood swings first hand with my ex. She was fine on birth control for a while, got off it, acted crazy and hormonal, freaked out and got on it again, and still acted crazy and hormonal.

I'll never enter a serious relationship again with a girl who has ever been on bc. Lesson learned.

You would have thought that they would have controlled for this factor but having just read the study they in fact did not. This seems like an incredibly glaring oversight to me as I would have assumed the primary reason to use the pill would be for increased promiscuity as really that's the only reason to use it given the other noteworthy negatives of usage.

Most interesting part for me reading it was that it the older people were when they used it the less impact it had, so basically when the women were at their most fertile it fucked them up the most and as they aged out of fertility it had less and less impact. Strongly supporting that women are biologically programmed to have children in the 15-25 age range when their bodies start telling them to do it and that destroying that element of the body is psychologically ruining them. Another strong win for feminism basically.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:02 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

It's why I always practice 'natural' birth control with the women I date, as I believe that the less artificial modifications to our sex life there are, the better.

G

Natural birth control. Is that something like cumming on their tits?
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Excuses, now their weird behaviour is not their fault, but of the evil pill they are obligued to take because of a patriarchy imperative.

The pill exist well before the land whale epidemy. Feminism is directly related to the pill more socially than physiologically.

It is like when a land whale says she does not eat much at all, but is fat because of a thyroid disfunction.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Toxic femininity is literally polluting our drinking water.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (01-14-2019 09:47 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Second order effect: does the pill-induced preference for Beta Males create a market incentive for men to tone down their Alpha behaviour? In other words, is the pill indirectly causing the general male populace to act more cucked than they otherwise would?

Alphas cant tone down, maybe paper alphas can, but those are just betas pretending.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

Quote: (10-02-2016 03:49 PM)rpg Wrote:  

Women are made to pop out kids young within a stable secure relationship. Everything our culture says and does is against nature. That is what fucks up women. Add in abortion guilt and it is really toxic to the female mind.
The only path to turning this around is to rectify the culture. Women should marry at 18+ to a much older man that can provide and act maturely. Then after popping out some kids, they can tie their tubes and get on with education and a career at age 30+.

Thank you.
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NYT: American Women Are So Messed Up Because the Pill Makes You Mentally Ill

I definitely agree with the article because I can see an example of that. This one woman I played poker with uses the pill, I've noticed it because she's almost always in a bitchy mood and proudly proclaimed people with pro-life views hate women. Her Facebook wasn't better as she always complained about conservatives and think it's still the 2000's. She has a ton of mental issues and tattoos as well and is heavy.
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