[casa-nostra]

(11-16-2017 05:44 AM)HardcoreSexpatMotherfucker Wrote:  

All you say is true, but Vancouver is also full of FOB Chinese bitches, so why would you bother with nightclubs and horsy Western women... I'd go directly for the Asian ones.

how is vancouver compared to Toronto in terms of easieness to bang from cold approches , nightclubs , competition ? ...

Ps: Iam not into asians and black girls , all others are fine.

[DigitalNomad]

(11-20-2017 10:09 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:44 AM)HardcoreSexpatMotherfucker Wrote:  

All you say is true, but Vancouver is also full of FOB Chinese bitches, so why would you bother with nightclubs and horsy Western women... I'd go directly for the Asian ones.

how is vancouver compared to Toronto in terms of easieness to bang from cold approches , nightclubs , competition ? ...

Ps: Iam not into asians and black girls , all others are fine.

Fairly similar in terms of quality and ease. A bit more competition I find, mostly due to the fact that there are a lot of Aussies there. In that same aspect, you also will find more tourists so you can get a quick lay from them occasionally.

@laner it probably hasn't gone down, just the typically canadian hate with guys that can't handle it. Top 5 worst countries in the world for women, give me a fucking break. When the city is being reflected on by someone because A. They are basing of Tinder, and B. they are using one specific example of one match they had on Tinder, you know they might be a bit biased. Preempting the city will be bad because someone didn't take a plane crash joke well while on a plane.. hmm... The HIV rate is soaring, but I don't have data. The tranny rate is soaring, but I don't have data. Is it Eastern Europe, no, you have to do shit differently. Is it a satanic cesspool, please. Some guys just don't have very versatile game and when they can't be the intimidating, intense Alpha gamer like they can in EE and they actually have to have a conversation and be intellectual, Canada turns into an impossible hell hole.

[Laner]

(11-20-2017 01:00 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:09 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:44 AM)HardcoreSexpatMotherfucker Wrote:  

All you say is true, but Vancouver is also full of FOB Chinese bitches, so why would you bother with nightclubs and horsy Western women... I'd go directly for the Asian ones.

how is vancouver compared to Toronto in terms of easieness to bang from cold approches , nightclubs , competition ? ...

Ps: Iam not into asians and black girls , all others are fine.

Fairly similar in terms of quality and ease. A bit more competition I find, mostly due to the fact that there are a lot of Aussies there. In that same aspect, you also will find more tourists so you can get a quick lay from them occasionally.

@laner it probably hasn't gone down, just the typically canadian hate with guys that can't handle it. Top 5 worst countries in the world for women, give me a fucking break. When the city is being reflected on by someone because A. They are basing of Tinder, and B. they are using one specific example of one match they had on Tinder, you know they might be a bit biased. Preempting the city will be bad because someone didn't take a plane crash joke well while on a plane.. hmm... The HIV rate is soaring, but I don't have data. The tranny rate is soaring, but I don't have data. Is it Eastern Europe, no, you have to do shit differently. Is it a satanic cesspool, please. Some guys just don't have very versatile game and when they can't be the intimidating, intense Alpha gamer like they can in EE and they actually have to have a conversation and be intellectual, Canada turns into an impossible hell hole.

I figured as much. The Island is known for hot white chicks with big 'ol Island Farms Milk titties.

I was buying some machinery in Nanaimo recently. I went back and forth a number of times and no shit the Cactus there is packed with hot white chicks. I need a bit of diversity when it comes to the poos but Nanaimo is great. Its an old biker city with a bar street like any good port city.

[Banna]

(11-09-2017 05:31 PM)TorontoRocks Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 04:25 PM)TheCroatian Wrote:  

I'm not sure if this is the right forum. I think this post is better classified Anti-Travel.

I was just recently living in Eastern Europe. I'm a dual Euro citizen so it was easy for me to find a job there. It didn't work out the way I hoped but I plan on returning as soon as possible (time to crank out a few niche sites! http://www.returnofkings.com/124749/a-ni...0-online). Anyway, I just returned to Canada. A shame, I know. But in only two years so much has changed. It's horrifying.

I don't recommend any masculine men live or travel here. I'd probably say the same about Vancouver. It's only tolerable for me because of my culture and Church community. While there's a lot to say about the natural beauty of the region, the people make it wretched. The world is big. Despite what you may have heard, there are better beaches, better camping trails. I would go so far as to say I would rather live in Toronto.

As I descended into Victoria from Vancouver by plane I wondered if a 200% increase in salary above differences in the cost of living (compared to EE) would be worth it. I turn to my right and attempt smalltalk with the jumbly purple haired SJW sitting next to me, typing away on her cellphone. I make a joke about the plane going down, tell her "turn it off." Blank stare. She retorts, asking why I'm bothering her on a 20 minute flight.

1. Satanic Capital of the World. Few know how real thus is: http://bsideoftheticket.ca/tag/satanic-c...he-world/. I'm pretty sure this explains all the rest, and why Catholics like me have such a hard time living here. Something really went wrong after my dad's generation came of age. The land and climate reminded my grandfather of Croatia. Go figure. I went on an evening hike up Mt. Douglas last week (it was renamed to something Native; it's no longer PC to call it by its Anglo name, apparently). I came across a group of men and women in robes holding a torch. Fortunately there were no children around.

2. The transsexual population is blowing up. I couldn't find any census data. I don't think the government records that. I'm sure the Ministry of Health considers that bigoted. Either way, I'm seeing them everywhere now. They're popping up on Tinder with a lot more frequency, classified as women. I had a convo with one and even got to the point of setting up a date. She sent me a video of her masturbating his penis on Facebook Messenger. I asked him why the fuck he didn't tell me he had a dick. He went batshit crazy and asked why I would assume his gender. I'm ashamed to say I really could not tell that he was not a biological woman until it got to that point.

3. The "normal girls" are really stuck up. The only girls worth seeing are American or Korean students taking classes at UVic. The better looking non-SJW/LGBTQ local chicks are either really stuck up or literal Dubai Portapotties.

4. Nightlife, like most places in North America, is designed for women. Darcy's, Upstairs, Sticky Wicket, The Local. Don't even dare cold approach or be prepared to get kicked out by white knight bouncers and bartenders. The best part of any night I can remember lately is grabbing a couple Whoppers from the BK Lounge.

5. The HIV rate is soaring. As a straight male this doesn't worry me so much but you just never know whose been assfucked by a gay dude. I've heard that some girls go home with known gays after a long night of getting hit on by Deplorables like me. The city is a cesspool in general so this just heightens my anxiety about having a regular sex life. I plan on being celibate until I leave again. A friend of mine was getting a regular test a few months ago and said he overheard some nurses say "it was going around like the flu." They chuckled casually, like it was no big deal.

6. Homelessness. This one just personally irritates me. It's not like you can't avoid them, but compared to the legitimate starving poor in Eastern Europe who lay prostrate on the ground, silent with baseball cap extended, these ones are usually high on meth or heroine (which they get from legal tax-financed injection sites), demand money from you and screech when you don't give in. The weather here is some of the best in Canada so naturally the homeless flock.

7. All this being said, there is simply no way I would ever consider raising a family here. New government policies in Ontario allow the feds to take custody of your children if you disagree with your own child's gender orientation (http://dailysignal.com/2017/06/27/new-la...deology/). This hasn't hit Victoria yet but given the provincial government has recently passed legislation protecting transpeople from "hate speech", it's just around the corner (http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/07/20/bc...156.html). This is also the one government-infested town where I can see this actually being prosecuted. Public and private schools alike have now have official "anti-violence" policies, which cover LGBTQ/trans discrimination and hate speech (https://www.sd61.bc.ca/news-events/news/...schools/).

In summation, Victoria is a Satanic, culturally blank wasteland riddled with STIs and fentanyl overdoses. Thankfully, I'm financially secure in the long run, so I'll be moving permanently as soon as I can.

A lot of this may sound jaded, but that would just be a misreading of tone. I'm simply being sincere. It may sound like I'm bitching or seeking validation, but that's only because the city has changed while I have not. I have refused to make LGBTQ or female friends while the vast majority of my former friend group has "grown up" by "integrating." It wasn't always bad here, from what I can remember. But the difference is now salient. After having been gone for just two years, the changes really stand out. Maybe it's always been the same? Perspective shift?

Anyway, just a warning to avoid wasting your time coming here. Anyone else in Victoria feel the same way? Anyone else who's traveled abroad return to their old city to find it totally jarring, unbelievable?

I always recommend Toronto people go to Buffalo and Detroit to meet women (I'm serious, much better across the border). I know that Seattle is a SJW cesspool but is this something Victoria guys in your position do? (just curious).

Haha......I guess everyone's tastes are different.

I don't claim to be some guy that bangs 8s or 9s but I'd be hard pressed to find even 5 good looking women in the entire city of Buffalo. That place is a dump. One could just ride up to Hamilton if they wanted to get a taste of there.

Buffalo women are hideous looking! And the cigarette smoking culture is everywhere...women smoke in hotel lobbies where families with kids are in the vicinity....disgusting!!. The white women I saw were all chain smokers. At least if you're not scoring in Toronto you're still seeing good looking women out there. If I lived in Buffalo in terms of women I'm not sure what reason I'd have to even leave my house.

The black women there are FAR more morbidly obese than the ones here in Toronto and it's bad enough here already. This heavy set one from Detroit was just waiting for me invite her to come upstairs to my room. Yeah hold that thought babes! Lol

I remember standing in a casino surrounded by some 30 something Italian descent women having a convo. 1 of them were like: "Yeah my ex husband is doing a 30 year bid"

I creep women out in Toronto because I have mostly unrealistic goals as a 40 something guy that only wants women 25 or younger. Some of my 40 something friends lie about their age, but I don't.

But this city has some stunning looking broads of different shades. The white women in this city have guys like the recently banned GymBro idolizing them and I find because of this they have this diva complex about them, I can't seem to find anything enjoyable about talking with them or their company.

Toronto sucks mostly, but if you lie through your teeth or show them the facade (women here get visibly disappointed when I tell them I don't actually play basketball for a living) they like you can have fun with them. LTR?......forget it!

[TorontoRocks]

Funny post Banna but Buffalo is fantastic. Only a town like Buffalo could produce an artist like Vincent Gallo and only a town could inspire a film like this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1duitd-N1Us

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

You're the only guy on this forum that defends Canada. It is unequivocally a bad place for women for numerous reasons. Namely, half of North Americans are more or less obese (fattest place on the planet), it's notoriously feminist / leftist (most in the world on par with Sweden), filled with unattractive immigrants (Indians, Chinese), G7 country (meaning women make a lot of money "don't need no man"), poor ratios especially in Alberta, most unattractive white women (anglo / celtic stock primarily), black ghetto culture worship, etc, etc.

There's a good reason this forum exists, and that's because of men, like you, who have left the west for greener pastures, and they are greener.

You have this weird thing where in your mind all Canadians are beta and any guy that complains about Canada "can't hack it". It's just blatantly false as evidenced by the horrible reputation it has on the forum and in real life. Just because you bang some girls in Canada doesn't change that fact. I've porked plenty myself and had hot Canadian girlfriends. That doesn't change my opinion.

Name 5 countries worse than Canada for women.....

(11-20-2017 01:00 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:09 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:44 AM)HardcoreSexpatMotherfucker Wrote:  

All you say is true, but Vancouver is also full of FOB Chinese bitches, so why would you bother with nightclubs and horsy Western women... I'd go directly for the Asian ones.

how is vancouver compared to Toronto in terms of easieness to bang from cold approches , nightclubs , competition ? ...

Ps: Iam not into asians and black girls , all others are fine.

Fairly similar in terms of quality and ease. A bit more competition I find, mostly due to the fact that there are a lot of Aussies there. In that same aspect, you also will find more tourists so you can get a quick lay from them occasionally.

@laner it probably hasn't gone down, just the typically canadian hate with guys that can't handle it. Top 5 worst countries in the world for women, give me a fucking break. When the city is being reflected on by someone because A. They are basing of Tinder, and B. they are using one specific example of one match they had on Tinder, you know they might be a bit biased. Preempting the city will be bad because someone didn't take a plane crash joke well while on a plane.. hmm... The HIV rate is soaring, but I don't have data. The tranny rate is soaring, but I don't have data. Is it Eastern Europe, no, you have to do shit differently. Is it a satanic cesspool, please. Some guys just don't have very versatile game and when they can't be the intimidating, intense Alpha gamer like they can in EE and they actually have to have a conversation and be intellectual, Canada turns into an impossible hell hole.

[Banna]

(11-20-2017 10:14 PM)TorontoRocks Wrote:  

Funny post Banna but Buffalo is fantastic. Only a town like Buffalo could produce an artist like Vincent Gallo and only a town could inspire a film like this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1duitd-N1Us

Well I'm happy you found your personal piece of happiness. I'm never one to steer a guy from something he's had success at because I don't like it there.

Personally there's 0 reason for me to be in Buffalo over Toronto. All the women I found were either overweight black women or white women that'd been through the ringer.

0 diversity whatsoever outside of that.

I was at the club Friday with and befriended 4 visiting girls from Massachusetts looking to party and hookup staying at a hotel downtown. If they only looked hotter I'd have zeroed in for sure

Next night I met 2 girls....one a stunning blonde from Belarus and another was a tall Pakistani. Unsurprisingly after initially being open, when both realized my age they ghosted from texts after that was revealed, lol.

But I love the diversity of this city that you can meet girls like thst from far off places. Who on earth is relocating in droves to Buffalo or Detroit? Lol. Toronto is a city where for every spoiled bratty bird brain you encounter.....there's ALWAYS going to be new girls arriving or short term visiting willing to be down and adventureous.

Canada in Top 5 worst countries in the world for women? Lol.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

Take a break from loling and name 5 countries that are worse excluding the middle east, which is likely still better but impossible to game in.

[Banna]

(11-21-2017 12:34 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Take a break from loling and name 5 countries that are worse excluding the middle east, which is likely still better but impossible to game in.

I find it laughable that the term "is likely still better" would be used especially considering the Middle East consists of a draconian place like Saudi Arabia with rules towards women reminiscent of the Stone Ages.

Places I'd consider worse than Canada in terms of women:

The entire English speaking Caribbean. None of these women will ever workout unless a upcoming 1 or 2 day carnival is happening.

But it seems like a lot of Roosh members (and judging by this black american thread even fellow black guys) aren't interested in black women, so perhaps that isn't a blip on the radar the conscience of many.

Italy (I don't get these ones here in, brattiest most spoiled of all the white women in toronto....could they be even worse in their more catholicized motherland ?)

Bolivia (their women do NOT look good in general)

Chile (with a few exceptions the plain Jane capital of South America in terms of girls).

South Africa....the black women I saw in Johannesburg were ugly. The whites isolate themselves from everyone else and stay in their gated electified fence compounds. Yeah I think there's easier places on earth for me to game a white woman lol.

And since you've obviously shown disdain towards Indian and Chinese women then you'd have to rank those places below Canada as well.

That's at least 5.

I've been to Brazil a few times specifically Salvador and Sao Paulo and while I love the femininity of the Baianas (especially compared to a lot of these awful Toronto women) almost all the girls I met there hadn't a clue as to how to point Toronto on a map. These women are clueless to what happens outside their hood in the world, and really don't care to learn about anything else culturally...that annoys me. My 60 year old brazilian buddy moved his wife up from Rio....and this woman won't ever take time to learn English. Would rather spend her entire life here having him translate and interpret for her.

That's what I like about Canada or should i say Toronto....being able to encounter girls from all walks of life. Talking Russian to one girl.....spitting some West Indian slang to another....to learning how to address a girl in Cantonese.

[DigitalNomad]

(11-20-2017 11:40 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

You're the only guy on this forum that defends Canada. It is unequivocally a bad place for women for numerous reasons. Namely, half of North Americans are more or less obese (fattest place on the planet), it's notoriously feminist / leftist (most in the world on par with Sweden), filled with unattractive immigrants (Indians, Chinese), G7 country (meaning women make a lot of money "don't need no man"), poor ratios especially in Alberta, most unattractive white women (anglo / celtic stock primarily), black ghetto culture worship, etc, etc.

There's a good reason this forum exists, and that's because of men, like you, who have left the west for greener pastures, and they are greener.

You have this weird thing where in your mind all Canadians are beta and any guy that complains about Canada "can't hack it". It's just blatantly false as evidenced by the horrible reputation it has on the forum and in real life. Just because you bang some girls in Canada doesn't change that fact. I've porked plenty myself and had hot Canadian girlfriends. That doesn't change my opinion.

Name 5 countries worse than Canada for women.....

First off, I'm not talking about Canada as a whole (especially not Alberta considering I've never been), I've only ever talked about Ontario and BC, the two most culturally diverse areas of Canada.. also coincidentally, two of the least obese provinces of Canada.

In regards to the beta thing, overall most guys here are too fucking nice for their own good. There are 2 types of guys that get laid in Toronto, guys that can play the Alpha male, intimidating role, use status, good looks, and throw their money around.. they do well with the bimbos and daddy issue girls (i.e. Tinder sluts.. shit I'm an average looking guy and I did a boost on Friday evening and had 110 matches, so that avenue is there for those who want it)... The other type is genuine guys who can have a conversation and make the move when it has to be made, they get the rest. I would guess most guys on this forum need to be the 2nd of those two, but try to be the first and girls here would see right through that. The average American guy would, and does, kill it with Canadian girls because they are more brazen and aggressive. And while that may not fly with the extremely feminist countries (Scandinavia) , Canada isn't at that point it it'll do just fine with the majority.

So places I think are worse personally, here you go:
As long as you mentioned the ugly Indian and Chinese immigrants, there's two.
Peru
Chile
Northern Brazil
Bolivia
Bosnia
Italy
Mexico/ Central America
To steal from Banna, all of the countries in the Caribbean
Basically anywhere in Africa
Anywhere in the Middle East
For me personally, anywhere in Asia except the whiter FSU countries, obviously personal taste since I haven't caught the yellow fever to this point
Ireland

But should any of those be your taste, you can definitely find them in Toronto/Vancouver. And back to my whole point when I originally replied in this thread, if the first post was accurate, I'd rather be in a fucking Zimbabwean village than Victoria. And yes, all in all I would rather be in the greener pastures of EE, but it's really not that bad here and the comforts of the western world and lack of language barries are a nice change occasionally, even if it means an extra porker or feminist in the bar.

[TooFineAPoint]

(11-20-2017 01:37 PM)Laner Wrote:  

I figured as much. The Island is known for hot white chicks with big 'ol Island Farms Milk titties.

I was buying some machinery in Nanaimo recently. I went back and forth a number of times and no shit the Cactus there is packed with hot white chicks. I need a bit of diversity when it comes to the poos but Nanaimo is great. Its an old biker city with a bar street like any good port city.

Cactus/Earls/Joey in western Canada is always an 8-9 parade.

[Tactician]

Ya know, Vancouver is pretty good if you're into Asian girls.

You have to go downtown for the real quantity and quality (in general, all the hotties flow downtown in any city), but, for example, if you don't mind ESL types there's a lot of English academies and always a fresh flow of foreign girls all year round.

These foreigners tend to be a lot more friendly and don't have the 'hard' or standoffish attitude or unfeminine appearance that some of the local girls have. You can meet girls who range between 'very innocent' and 'clearly wants dick,' but almost 100% of them will be pleasant to be around.

Also, Vancouver is actually a very beautiful place with a lot of sights to see and a lot of wildlife if you know where to look. As a local, you can parlay your knowledge of the city and surroundings into dates that cost as much or as little as you want, often times just your time + snacks + transport.

[Sidney Crosby]

Brown's and Moxies has high talent levels as well, especially the girls that work there.

[hedonist]

Its funny because I've found the Island to be way better than Vancouver for women but its been a few years since I've visited. I'm not a local so I'm sure that helps a little with the somewhat exotic factor over there. I think there are some pretty good places in Canada for women.


I will say this myth that "if you can crack Vancouver you can do well anywhere" isn't necessarily true in respect to the locals.
It is a different style of game.....anywhere there is hoards of PUA type guys is a red flag.

Its kinda of a more low frequency vibration game that works best here with the locals (I'm being fairly generalized with this ...obviously you get different crowds on the drive compared to yaletown etc)
If you are the dude that wears a ball cap backwards, has pretty poor fashion, juices up and has generic tatts you will probably do pretty decent in the city. Lack of culture certainly helps aside from the all inclusive resort style travel. The venues you want to hit are Parlour and Port Side as an example....anywhere where they play the bottom of the barrel hip hop music.

I know after coming back from my last trip o/seas what would have got me nowhere with local women worked the opposite.

I've heard the same thing from a bunch of expats (British/Irish etc) ...I'll stick with the Latinas/Persians etc in Van etc who at least can hold a conversation and are a ton more upbeat.

My advice in this city is don't try to piss up a rope and don't beat yourself up ....there are far greater returns elsewhere for far less effort.

[casa-nostra]

(11-21-2017 10:42 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Its funny because I've found the Island to be way better than Vancouver for women but its been a few years since I've visited. I'm not a local so I'm sure that helps a little with the somewhat exotic factor over there. I think there are some pretty good places in Canada for women.


I will say this myth that "if you can crack Vancouver you can do well anywhere" isn't necessarily true in respect to the locals.
It is a different style of game.....anywhere there is hoards of PUA type guys is a red flag.

Its kinda of a more low frequency vibration game that works best here with the locals (I'm being fairly generalized with this ...obviously you get different crowds on the drive compared to yaletown etc)
If you are the dude that wears a ball cap backwards, has pretty poor fashion, juices up and has generic tatts you will probably do pretty decent in the city. Lack of culture certainly helps aside from the all inclusive resort style travel. The venues you want to hit are Parlour and Port Side as an example....anywhere where they play the bottom of the barrel hip hop music.

I know after coming back from my last trip o/seas what would have got me nowhere with local women worked the opposite.

I've heard the same thing from a bunch of expats (British/Irish etc) ...I'll stick with the Latinas/Persians etc in Van etc who at least can hold a conversation and are a ton more upbeat.

My advice in this city is don't try to piss up a rope and don't beat yourself up ....there are far greater returns elsewhere for far less effort.

This is weird , you hear two different comments about vancouver , either too easy or too difficult.
But ,I dont thinks this is true though , every time i met a vancouver girls in MTL , she tells me Montreal is a heaven for us , Guys are way better looking in MTL , not even close. and usually when i met a Vancouver girl, it ends with a bang same day easily. while i struggle with MTL spoiled bitches.

[hedonist]

(11-22-2017 10:12 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

This is weird , you hear two different comments about vancouver , either too easy or too difficult.
But ,I dont thinks this is true though , every time i met a vancouver girls in MTL , she tells me Montreal is a heaven for us , Guys are way better looking in MTL , not even close. and usually when i met a Vancouver girl, it ends with a bang same day easily. while i struggle with MTL spoiled bitches.

I'm not surprised....I think everywhere there is always the grass is a little greener feeling, the reverse would apply to me for MTL, but I'm speaking specifically local women.

When I first moved over it was paradise, there were certain factors that changed with work that meant I wasn't around near as much.
I think you change to the environment after some time and I notice after returning from holidays being much more in the zone then slipping back into old habits.

Going through my list though there were very few local Vancouver girls .....other provinces or other parts of BC yes but not born and bred in Vancity. For the non locals and international crowd it can be good although I never see too many Euro girls come though here, probably due to the colder weather. (The only swede I ever met here I got luckily! )