[John Michael Kane]

The massive price of an advanced sex doll with AI, heated flesh, etc. will keep this from mass market adoption anytime soon. I have to think that Omega males and lower betas will be the primary customers, and these weren't men that women were going after in the first place.

They would have to get mighty cheap, and realistic (two hard things to overcome) to make men in the middle of the smv spectrum consider them as full-time woman replacements.

[Captainstabbin]

(09-12-2017 10:04 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

The massive price of an advanced sex doll with AI, heated flesh, etc. will keep this from mass market adoption anytime soon. I have to think that Omega males and lower betas will be the primary customers, and these weren't men that women were going after in the first place.

Betas with money are the primary landing pads for women being thrown off the carousel. Take them out of the equation and women might panic - just like that psychologist. Notice the way she jumped to making this illegal by emphasizing how some sickos in Japan are making child sex dolls and programing rape responses.

A woman's response is rarely self improvement. She knows it's easier to eliminate the threat.

[John Michael Kane]

There will no doubt be angry responses from women, especially those of middling attractiveness or those who are overweight or hold feminist views. The shrink in the video above struck me as a bit of a cunt, no doubt. I would consider her comments valuable if she also said that dildos were objectifying men, and turning them into replacable cocks. Interestingly, she only commented on the objectification of women, the child sex dolls, etc.

For betas to buy an advanced sex robot that completely (or near completely) causes them to stop approaching women, I still posit that several things would have to happen:

1. The realism factor has to go up. (While they are a massive improvement from the laughable blowup dolls, they still have a bit of an uncanny valley thing that makes them a bit hard to grok.) No warm flesh? Doesn't sound very much like a woman to me. Isn't that part of what makes sex enjoyable, the heat? What about power supplies? Batteries = limited power on time, and hardwires mean she is tethered to a wall outlet. Both of them present enormous engineering challenges. What about overall weight? Batteries plus fake flesh, plus motors and other joints mean that if these units were to be hyper-realistic, they would also be extremely heavy barring some massive scientific discoveries. Huge weight = potential safety challenges. I'd say we are at least another ten years away from solving the technical issues with these first-gen AI robots. AI will improve a lot in a decade, including better speech output that doesn't sound so monotone. We're not there yet.

2. The price has to come way down. A Real Doll starts at $5k and the prices rise from their based upon customization. That doesn't include any advanced AI, robotic arms, etc. That's a $5k masturbating sleeve. By the time you build a really life-like human woman with robotics, AI, heated flesh, etc. that price could easily double. When you are talking about a sex robot that is nearing the price of a new economy car, that makes it a true novelty item. The economy, in general, is still in the garbage can. Many beta male jobs have already been shipped overseas, killed off through advanced software and AI plus automation. Most beta males are still struggling at this current time financially. Yes, there are wealthy beta males, but they already had women throwing themselves at them for their money. Men, when thinking with their small head, don't long-term rationalize the true costs of a gold digger. If you look at all the horror stories that are posted on this forum about news articles, if one thing is for sure, men are willing to spend ANY PRICE to get with a real woman. Many, if not most, beta males are ignorant saps. Well meaning, but still dangerously naive. The average beta is trying to pay all his bills, not add a $10k expense to his balance sheet. That might change if these things could be financed, but that might be a risky loan seeing as you couldn't easily resell them like you could a repo'ed car. The average omega male works at Burger King and can't even afford his used car he's driving.

3. Feminists and fatties (I repeat myself) will go hard to try and ban these sex robots. They may be successful because women are better organized at lobbying government for what they want than men are. Additionally, most men won't come out in public and support this kind of technology for fear of being labeled a creep, a sexist, a rapist, a perv, etc. Feminists will use social stigma to make sure that these things are regulated or outright banned as much as possible, and what men can have access to them, they will be socially shunned.

When taken in the balance, I think there are huge hurdles which I posted above that limit these from having any meaningful impact on the relationship between the sexes. Fat feminists will remain single and married to their cats. Clueless beta males will continue to be fleeced because they have romantic aspirations with real women, but lack the social savvy to determine a good woman from a bad one. Alphas will be alphas and attract women they are attracted to. Omega males are too broke and repulsive to be noticed by women in the first place, so they are a non-starter. I think in ten years, these sex robots will have a nominal effect on the marketplace. A key indicator would be if women started outnumbering men on online dating sites and apps. Right now many sites and apps struggle to retain a 40% female userbase. The male thirst is so strong that even a minor dent of sex robots (if they could make them cheap and realistic enough, no small challenge!) will not really change things in the aggregate.

[John Michael Kane]

Forgot to mention one additional challenge these sex robots face: Taxation. If they aren't banned outright, expect feminists and male cucks in legislatures to increase "Bachelor taxes" on "men who refuse to grow up". The robots themselves could also be taxed extensively. Considering their massive up-front costs, I still think men will be spending tons of bucks on trying to chase down chubby real-life girls just because the average man will accept just about anything. Male thirst is an amazing phenomenon.

[CynicalContrarian]

I can see it now.
No need for a military conflict.
Instead, mass produce cheap yet highly realistic sex dolls to curb the population of your opponent...

I can picture the very patient & very industrious Chinese implementing such a plan.

Heh.
A fifth column of sex robots...

[debeguiled]

I bet you in the future, just as we can identify trannies and gays by their facial expressions, we will be able to identify these men by their stunned and desperate doll faces.

[John Michael Kane]

The guy in that top photo isn't an objectively ugly man. If he pumped iron as hard as he's probably pumping his doll, and learned some game, he'd probably do alright. The guy on the bottom though, he has 90's glasses, a beer gut, is balding, etc. Sometimes there is more to work with when it comes to a man, and sometimes there is less. The question is, how much does each man want to work to get a real woman versus a synthetic one? Porn is so widespread that any man who wants it can get it for free. I suspect that VR porn will outpace sex robot dolls due to the much cheaper barrier to access, plus more flexibility of programs you can load into a VR headset instead of one hyper expensive sex doll robot.

[Dan Woolf]

(09-12-2017 10:58 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

1. The realism factor has to go up. (While they are a massive improvement from the laughable blowup dolls, they still have a bit of an uncanny valley thing that makes them a bit hard to grok.) No warm flesh? Doesn't sound very much like a woman to me. Isn't that part of what makes sex enjoyable, the heat? What about power supplies? Batteries = limited power on time, and hardwires mean she is tethered to a wall outlet. Both of them present enormous engineering challenges. What about overall weight? Batteries plus fake flesh, plus motors and other joints mean that if these units were to be hyper-realistic, they would also be extremely heavy barring some massive scientific discoveries. Huge weight = potential safety challenges. I'd say we are at least another ten years away from solving the technical issues with these first-gen AI robots. AI will improve a lot in a decade, including better speech output that doesn't sound so monotone. We're not there yet.

Wouldn't it be better to just use CRISPR or something to genetically engineer and grow aesthetically perfect human female bodies in a lab (but without the brain) and then put a specialized computer inside their pretty little heads? Human brain weighs like, what, 3 pounds? I'm sure we could come up with a computer that weighs less than 5 lbs and can run the simple artificial intelligence and "her" bodily functions. Of course the menstrual cycle and other unnecessary shit like that would be disabled by engineers.

[Selembao]

(09-12-2017 01:54 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

Wouldn't it be better to just use CRISPR or something to genetically engineer and grow aesthetically perfect human female bodies in a lab (but without the brain) and then put a specialized computer inside their pretty little heads? Human brain weighs like, what, 3 pounds? I'm sure we could come up with a computer that weighs less than 5 lbs and can run the simple artificial intelligence and "her" bodily functions. Of course the menstrual cycle and other unnecessary shit like that would be disabled by engineers.

[spokepoker]

Why does the guy's wife have a different last name than him? (in the "This Morning" video)

[SamuelBRoberts]

(09-12-2017 11:34 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Kurt Eichenwald, is that you?

[Razors Edge]

This is fkn brilliant...

I can't wait for all the fatties to cry about it.

[Paracelsus]

(09-12-2017 09:59 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(09-12-2017 09:43 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

That psychologist got triggered hard...

Similar to the sentiment - "You cop the most flack when over the target."

She came face to face with her competition & realized, she can barely compete (post wall) against a cold, cold doll.

I found it particularly hilarious that when confronted with this freakshow, her hamster got so electrocuted that she accused the relationship of being "outside the spectrum of normality."

The problem being that, to current psychological, i.e. leftie, thought, there isn't any such thing as "outside the spectrum of normality." That was why the cultural relativists invented this bullshit idea that normality is a spectrum to start with, so you couldn't look at the buttfuckers and carpetlickers and say that shit ain't normal. And that, in turn, goes back to the quasi-priests in anthropology who arbitrarily decided there is no such thing as a universal human nature ... the problem being that when you go that way, everything from cog-fucking to identifying as an attack helicopter is on the table as normal.

[CynicalContrarian]

(09-12-2017 11:31 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

I found it particularly hilarious that when confronted with this freakshow, her hamster got so electrocuted that she accused the relationship of being "outside the spectrum of normality."

The problem being that, to current psychological, i.e. leftie, thought, there isn't any such thing as "outside the spectrum of normality." That was why the cultural relativists invented this bullshit idea that normality is a spectrum to start with, so you couldn't look at the buttfuckers and carpetlickers and say that shit ain't normal. And that, in turn, goes back to the quasi-priests in anthropology who arbitrarily decided there is no such thing as a universal human nature ... the problem being that when you go that way, everything from cog-fucking to identifying as an attack helicopter is on the table as normal.

I was amused to see the male host call her out on what is "normal"?

Welcome to mass secular hedonism psychie. No one ever said it would be nice & "normal".

[N°6]

(09-11-2017 10:25 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

People seem to think these sexbots are like a Star Trek Holodeck or the Matrix - you literally can't tell it apart from reality.

Every bot I've seen is about half a step more realistic than Disney's hall of presidents and the "amazing" AI isn't even as good as Siri. We're decades, maybe even hundreds of years away from a truly realistic doll. As I've said in this thread before, instead of a sexbot, I'd prefer a robot that cooks, cleans, drives and can spot me at the gym...maybe even light secretarial duties.

I see robots replacing women in the workforce LONG before replacing them in the bedroom.

True but it will be the top 10-20% of men who will get the most access to the women, just like what online dating is like now which sees the frustrated 80% of men relying on porn. Porn will go real life in the form of sexbots.

[Razor Beast]

(09-12-2017 11:26 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Forgot to mention one additional challenge these sex robots face: Taxation. If they aren't banned outright, expect feminists and male cucks in legislatures to increase "Bachelor taxes" on "men who refuse to grow up". The robots themselves could also be taxed extensively. Considering their massive up-front costs, I still think men will be spending tons of bucks on trying to chase down chubby real-life girls just because the average man will accept just about anything. Male thirst is an amazing phenomenon.

Why would a society that promotes "gender equality" institute a bachelor tax? Does that mean it will be rationalized as some sort of reparations for the "gender pay gap"?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(09-13-2017 01:59 AM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

Why would a society that promotes "gender equality" institute a bachelor tax? Does that mean it will be rationalized as some sort of reparations for the "gender pay gap"?

[infowarrior1]

(09-12-2017 07:30 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(09-12-2017 11:34 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Kurt Eichenwald, is that you?

People say that you cannot judge a book by its cover. But I am seeing a pattern here.

The same facial types keeping popping up.

[infowarrior1]

(09-12-2017 11:34 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

I bet you in the future, just as we can identify trannies and gays by their facial expressions, we will be able to identify these men by their stunned and desperate doll faces.

The Robocunt stare

[Cane Toad]

Isn't there an old saying that couples end up looking like each other...maybe that's what happened to this guy.

Yikes, in a couple of years he'll have the blowjob ready mouth open face.

[TripleG]

I'll throw another curve into this discussion, something that frustrates me as I deal with statistics and census data from time to time at my job so may as well speak about this. The biggest problem and the reason why these robots will succeed even if they are heavily taxed or high priced is the unbalanced world demographics. There are several hundred million more men in the world of <35 age than women. Due to Asia (India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.) there are more men of 18-35 age than women, so as long as they outnumber women, men will go to desperate lengths to attain intimacy. For example in some regions of China it is as bad as 112men for 100 women, the male thirst will be there to "fuck basically anything that moves, be it real or not".

This phenomenon is not just happening in Asia, you look at most of the west and just about any big city you go to you will see thousands of young guys sitting at bars/clubs/parks by themselves and comparatively few single women around. Women start to really only outnumber guys once you get into 50+ age range, as men die on average younger for various reasons.
It is a sad situation but as long as sex-selective abortions keep getting practiced in the world, backwards countries continue doing "honor killings" or in certain regions like the Middle East/N. Africa families keep having a preference for males (for example, couples keep having kids until they get a boy) this situation will not improve.

[CynicalContrarian]

& another curve.

People dismiss talk of mass sex robot usage due to the cost. People overlook the upcoming used sex robot market...

[realologist]

^^^^^

"Only one previous partner. Very clean. Great owner. Only 12000 pumps!!!"

[Latinopan]

(09-12-2017 08:58 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Even in reading this article about a sex robot being featured on a morning show.
Much to the chagrin of the aged shrew hostess & psychologist.

I had to do a double take to realize this is just a doll... :



http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-tv/ho...rgi-santos

I gotta admit, that is a very realistic body, the bone structure and the muscles make it look real.

The only thing off is the face, the uncanny valley is still a thing.

But those ribs and stomach and thighs muscles are really good.

If you crop out the face you could say is a real woman.

[Dan Woolf]

(09-16-2017 07:44 AM)Latinopan Wrote:  

I gotta admit, that is a very realistic body, the bone structure and the muscles make it look real.

The only thing off is the face, the uncanny valley is still a thing.

But those ribs and stomach and thighs muscles are really good.

If you crop out the face you could say is a real woman.

So just put a bag over its head and pretend that you shot it in the face. Would explain why the body is cold, too. How can real women even compete?