Quote: (08-04-2011 11:51 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Quote: (08-04-2011 04:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:
That said, it looks like I found a backup career. ![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
You need a quite special brain for that.
I know a skydiver who's pulling those tricks - the dude never had a real job in his life. However he is the most sociopath person I've ever seen in my life. He always surrounds himself with drama - he basically gets his kicks off drama, and can keep it up alive for months or even years. He has zero morals - those who read my posts know that I do not held morals in high regard at all, but comparing to him I felt like Jesus. This description matches him completely.
A short summary of what he told me; would be interesting co compare with Pusscrock's experience:
- His main target are insecure chicks who are not social, and generally not attractive, but has a career (so she has money to spare which don't mean a lot to her). You won't meet them in bars and clubs; he was meeting them in the libraries, country fairs, museums, upscale department stores (esp shoes/jewelry) and so on.
- The quick assessment is very important, as it is easy to get tied up with someone who'd have "wrong expectations". He says he qualifies roughly one out of 20 from already very skewed pool. Self-control is very important here - an ideal woman for him is barely attractive, which means that she's not used to male attention and therefore has little dating experience, but at the same time she's not an ugly whale who'd constantly ask herself why a guy like him spends any time with a girl like her, resulting in permanent stream of shit tests. He also says the thinner is the MILF, the more money she usually has.
- Don't expect quick results. Until you get your first "paycheck" the thing is very fragile, and easy to break if you hurry up. He said it takes two to four weeks until he sees the first gift. Then the important point is not to get relaxed - but to pump things up so she associates the gifts with more excitement in the relationship. Think about old dudes giving their bored 20yo "friend" a diamond necklace to "spice up" things.
- Don't expect steady income. As he says it is more like a lottery, not like salary. There is a lot of luck involved; you may get nothing for three months, and then you're getting a new car or some cash to "help with bills" or "save your stupid cousin from jail". And be very careful when you're taking cash; study the fraud laws in your state very carefully, .
- Each gift he receives may be the last one; he said he is always ready to give the latest gift back to her as soon as she raises the "are you with me just for gifts?" point. He's outraged she thinks of him this way, so he gives the gift back and tell her to never call him again. In most cases this ensures more gifts on the way, but some time none ![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
- For an average Joe it is a damn difficult way to make money, and simply not worth it. Even this dude says he gets suicide thoughts from time to time, and he's the hardest motherfucker I've ever met.
Yes, Nemesis, let us compare...
The individual mentioned above has been described as: never having a "real" job ,sociopathic, ( as opposed to a psychopath)? You do know psychopaths and sociopaths share similar traits and psychopaths especially have very charming personalities . (This would fit right into his mode of operation).hehheh. He gets his "kicks" off of drama, and zero morals. Pretty much sums him up I guess. Good thing you know "him" personally.
Let's move on to the finer points of the operation so we can compare what is most important in your "comparative " study. (hilarious)
Skydiver person likes em insecure, not social, generally not attractive, but has a career. "Puss", likes em secure(exuding self-confidence is even a better term for me), social ( go do things with your "girls" or your kids), I don't fuck homely looking scragglers, and so that leaves me with the only thing in common with skydiver person , which is..... you guessed it...access to money. You called it a "career".
Skydiver person has a "skewed" pool etc etc etc. Sounds like quite an unpredictable mode of operation. Why is the pool even skewed? If you define your "target market" why act like a "telemarketer"? "Puss" , has a target market and I make a bee line for it.
It takes skydiver 2-4 weeks approx. to get his first "gift"? He's doing better than me. It takes me 30 days just to assess the target . Maybe he can teach me this 2-4 week "strategy". I do agree with him that you have to pump things up to keep it exciting for the "wounded personnel" , but you didn't say how he does this. "Puss" , keeps things exciting with pummeling. Not an ounce of sex should be spared.
Skydiver says don't expect steady income and study the fraud laws in your state. (heheh). Can you imagine how many girls "study" the fraud laws in your state when you buy them shit? You're not masquerading around here as KONO are you? (kidding man). I don't expect steady anything, so i guess we have that in common. However, I keep an excel spread sheet of who gives me what , when and why. This way I can "steer" some of the expectations in the right direction.
Skydiver will give back the gifts if she asks him such a question as "are you with me just for the gifts"? My reply to her would be "I didn't ask you for a gift, you gave me this out of the goodness of your heart didn't you? Are you an indian giver now"? Yes, take a page right out of her fucking book , now swallow it.
But i understand his strategy behind it and its a good one for him I think,
(him being a "sociopath" an all)
Skydiver gets suicidal... Just skip this one, figure it out.
Now, you on the other hand stated this was a damn difficult way to make money.. (Hehheh) I am assuming you tried. Certainly the ways of the "sociopath" may seem difficult, but let's say you made 50k sitting in a shit-hole cubicle and skydiver sociopath made 150k fucking ,does that do anything to neutralize this word you used....."difficulty"?
What's an average "Joe"?
I would have rather compared the last batch of bitches to the current batch of bitches and figure out what needed tweaking,but you chose the subject.
Pusscrook